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[Ronok]

I honestly can't believe so many were FOR the shitty law of 5&6...... The fact of the matter is, that's not even a good number......... You're going to have to have shit loads of English players for backup incase of injury... :-/

Add to that the premium that would be added to English players or any player sharing the same nationality of there team.... :-/ Buying players would become much more expensive... Teams would be less willing to sell players due to the smaller pool of talent to pick from.

I mean that graph displays that there is only enough English talent to be regularly starting in the league right now to have 4.083 (unless I made a random mistake lol) English players per starting lineup.... Instant degradation of the Premier League.

The news that teams aren't making money again should be a reason to go against this. It's easier to get player abroad for cheap then from England. Maybe not if trained from Youth academy, but, that's in no way a guarentee. You've got catchment zones, then the fact that some youth's just don't flourish, make stupid mistakes, get injured. The whole thing in my opinion relies too much on chance.


But yeah, whatever is best for the shitty international side! Never mind the fans who would be watching a watered down brand of football. Hell, at the very least, should the EU fold (they better fucking not) it could come back and fuck the FA with lower viewers from overseas as our league gets hit hard by the shit quality of English talent in this era. >.>

 

[Worm_Buffet]

Don't they take into consideration that England had the Euro 96 as well?

 

[velvet_nitemare]

Of course Football is about money and FIFA are as corrupt as anyone so it's probably gonna be the States.

You know you want it.

 

[speedpop]

Don't they take into consideration that England had the Euro 96 as well?

I always assumed the continent competitions were run by their divisions, and not fully by FIFA. At least that's what I've learnt with the Asian Federation.

Hell, at the very least, should the EU fold (they better fucking not) it could come back and fuck the FA with lower viewers from overseas as our league gets hit hard by the shit quality of English talent in this era. >.>

I think the major appeal of the EPL is the fact that the games are in English, and not the quality of the football available. The EPL has been huge in Australasia and Asia for close to two decades.

 

[QVT]

England without a question.

The US had one in 94 and it was nice and all but it's time that the World Cup comes back where it belongs. The best stadiums by far, easy to reach for everybody, in a good time zone for everybody - there's no shadow of a doubt for me that England deserve to host it, it will have been over 50 years (!!!) since they last had it for fucks sake.

Of course Football is about money and FIFA are as corrupt as anyone so it's probably gonna be the States.

Yeah, you're asking FIFA to weigh highest ever attendances versus best fan experience. FIFA. Money involved. =\

 

[Cedeo]

I would love to see Man U try and buy English players from teams who need English players to fill the quota.

And that graph is skewed, we all know that Benitez likes rotating his English players.

Money talks. And even if thats the case you'll be even more screwed.

 

[hadareud]

You know you want it.

I wouldn't mind the USA, but not when the other choice is England. You can have the one after that.

Don't they take into consideration that England had the Euro 96 as well?

I don't see why they should. Different competition, different organisation. They might as well hold the Olympics against England.

I'm quite sure that South Africa hosted an African Cup of Nations after 96 for instance.

 

[Sqrt_minus_one]

I reckon they are indicating at Dos Santos. Does no good team out there want this player. There have been a lot of rumors about thier willingness to sell.

No way in hell they are going to sell Yaya Toure.

Ruben De La Red is available from Madrid don't know how good he is though.

 

[ElyrionX]

Christ. I can't stop laughing at this response. :lol :lol :lol

 

[Cornballer]

I don't see why they should. Different competition, different organisation. They might as well hold the Olympics against England.

I'm quite sure that South Africa hosted an African Cup of Nations after 96 for instance.

I don't think officially it will, but unofficially I think both the Euros and the Olympics will be on their minds. Either the US or England would be a good choice. We can certainly pack them in here in America, but the transportation sucks for getting around the country because it's so big. You can't exactly hop on a cross country train to check out another match. Well, you could, but it'd take several days.

I reckon they are indicating at Dos Santos. Does no good team out there want this player. There have been a lot of rumors about thier willingness to sell.

I'm becoming conflicted as Arsenal begins to prop up more and more of the Mexican national team.

No way in hell they are going to sell Yaya Toure.

I don't think they'd sell him, but it'd be nice if they would.

 

[QVT]

I think the major appeal of the EPL is the fact that the games are in English, and not the quality of the football available. The EPL has been huge in Australasia and Asia for close to two decades.

What? They play the game in football.

I... the games are in english? what the hell?

 

[speedpop]

England would be the best choice ultimately. The stadiums are there and the short distance between venues is a bonus, along with zero timezone differences in the games ala Japan & Korea '02.

What? They play the game in football.

I... the games are in english? what the hell?

You know what I meant. How many Singaporeans are going to remember a name like Inzaghi if they can't even spell it.

 

[velvet_nitemare]

Speaking of corruption and FIFA, i'm sure they're salivating at the thought of Football getting big in the US so they can get a slice of that pie.

 

[Worm_Buffet]

I don't see why they should. Different competition, different organisation. They might as well hold the Olympics against England.

I'm quite sure that South Africa hosted an African Cup of Nations after 96 for instance.

No one cares about the African Cup though. The Euro and World Cup are the football tournaments with a global appeal. And the decisions of FIFA and UEFA are very much relevant to each other.

Without Wikipedia-ing, I think this is true historically as well, that the placement of Euros and World Cups do affect each other.

Edit: Hmmmmm, maybe not: Italy 1980 | France 1984 | West Germany 1988.

 

[Outdoor Miner]

I'm becoming conflicted as Arsenal begins to prop up more and more of the Mexican national team.

Club before country!!!

 

[QVT]

I reckon they are indicating at Dos Santos. Does no good team out there want this player. There have been a lot of rumors about thier willingness to sell.

There are too many questions about his work ethic at the moment. He's world class capable if he'd just be willing to work more. Essentially he got Brasillian syndrome before ever winning anything.

 

[Cornballer]

Speaking of corruption and FIFA, i'm sure they're salivating at the thought of Football getting big in the US so they can get a slice of that pie.

Someone looks like he's had too much pie already.

Club before country!!!

Wrong! It's the other way around for me. I think I'm about the only person around here that puts their national side before their favorite club.

 

[speedpop]

Wrong! It's the other way around for me. I think I'm about the only person around here that puts their national side before their favorite club.

You're not alone brother!

 

[Outdoor Miner]

Bah that'll change with a couple of Quake years back in yer belt.

 

[QVT]

You know what I meant. How many Singaporeans are going to remember a name like Inzaghi if they can't even spell it.

What does that have to do with anything? They are capable of remembering the names of the best players in the EPL none of which are english? Just because Pippo has a silly name doesn't make Ronaldo or Fabregas anymore english.

It's popular because it was marketed correctly with the advent of satellite TV in developing nations.

 

[Cornballer]

You're not alone brother!

High five!

Bah that'll change with a couple of Quake years back in yer belt.

Heh. We'll just see about that. I'll travel halfway around the world for the US World Cup matches, but I ain't driving to LA to watch the Quakes in MLS Cup.

 

[Ronok]

England would be the best choice ultimately. The stadiums are there and the short distance between venues is a bonus, along with zero timezone differences in the games ala Japan & Korea '02.


You know what I meant. How many Singaporeans are going to remember a name like Inzaghi if they can't even spell it.

Wha? You think the premiership is popular in asian countries because the names are in English? ;;

It's not like they are so much better at saying English names either. lol My girlfriends parents can't say my name properly so call me Conan now..... As in detective Conan. rofl

 

[speedpop]

I was attempting to say something akin to what QVT said but what the hey. The fact that the league was played in England and some of the major EPL hotspots in Asia were under/still are under British rule meant in the past it was an easier barrier to break. Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

 

[QVT]

That makes way more sense man :lol It was the Inzaghi joke that threw me off, I can't spell the his name either although i don't like him so you may have a deep insight

 

[SupahBlah]

Yahoo Sports article about the growing battle between the US and England over who gets to host WC2018.

If America get it the whole world will know FIFA hate England and there will be no denying it.

1966 - 1994.

The only benefit for me would be New Anfield/Old Trafford would host some games so I could go.

Also, Club >>>>>>>>> Country.

My club is always there for me, not like a visiting uncle you hate.

The only people who put England before their club support shit teams like Millwall or are named Michael Owen.

 

[MrPing1000]

I used to care about international football. I went to every single home game of Northern Irelands World Cup 98 qualifying except for one, and the one I missed was the only one we won. We were terrible back then.

We're still crappy now but I must admit beating England and Spain brought a smile, but I do not identify with the tribalism of patriotism that most of the world seems to. I'm technically British but I don't really relate to any specific group, which is also why I don't really care too much if we were to reunite with the republic of Ireland. Actually I'd be pissed off at the money changes.

 

[Cornballer]

The official MGS4 thread is straight up ridiculous. Very impressive work.

Also, Club >>>>>>>>> Country.

Different strokes for different folks. It depends a lot on your club and country situation.

 

[QVT]

Different strokes for different folks. It depends a lot on your club and country situation.

Which is probably why most Brits prefer club. Also Americans but you seem to be an exception. Even though my country is successful I do not care as much as I could, it hurt more to see babels dive than trez miss.

 

[Cedeo]

From my half a year in this thread this is my view of how shit goes down.

I decided to remove most of the names that could be percieved as deragotry.

 

[velvet_nitemare]

The official MGS4 thread is straight up ridiculous. Very impressive work.

Truth!

 

[Cornballer]

:lol I know where I sit on that chart.

 

[QVT]

:lol I know where I sit on that chart.

You're a whole fucking section :lol

 

[hadareud]

I hope I'm a wisecrack hypocrite

 

[QVT]

I hope I'm a wisecrack hypocrite

Presumably filling the other half of my section, you wisecrack.

 

[Yazan]

:lol

 

[Ronok]

I'd also like to add that the 5&6 rule would lead to more stagnation of quality players within the top 4 reserves. Each of the top 4 would need 6 top quality English players. They would need atleast 1.5 backup players for each English player they have incase of emergency. That's 15 per squad, 60 between them...... Obviously, the quality in the reserves would vary, but, you'd assume they'd be of a decent standard.

How many of these players would get more play time at another club. I mean people complain about Theo as it is, but, imagine there were even 6 English talents per top 4 side, sitting out every game... It's never likely that all 6 will make a breakthrough and if they did, it's likely in exchange of another English player.

The same obviously goes for all other teams as well, but, you would obviously see the effect most in one of the top 4 clubs. :-/


Then again, should this rule go through, I don't see the top talent from other countries being let go so easilly either. The likes of Real Madrid and Barce would target young Spanish talent even more. Inter and AC would target Italians, etc..... Foriegn players would probably dwindle more then the rule itself suggest in all honesty.

 

[MrPing1000]

I think blatter is just getting pissed at how good English teams have gotten in Europe. Any rule will clearly help Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal. England would be the only countries adversely affected in any significant way.

Having said that its never going to happen anyway.

 

[SupahBlah]

The official MGS4 thread is straight up ridiculous. Very impressive work.

I haven't gone into it for fear of spoilers, what's it like?

Also I hope I'm both in denial and a defence force.

Also, Liverpool should be bigger than Chelsea plastics.

 

[Yazan]

The only thing you missed was Lakitus cat.

 

[Cornballer]

I haven't gone into it for fear of spoilers, what's it like?

I didn't read much and all of the spoilers appear to be marked pretty clearly. The OP is a sequence of about 30-40 consecutive posts with a ton of info and some great graphics. Must have taken quite some time to put it together.

Also I hope I'm both in denial and a defence force.

Also, Liverpool should be bigger than Chelsea plastics.

:lol

Spoiler

I agree for the sake of numbers, but those two sentences back-to-back made me laugh.

 

[Cedeo]

The only thing you missed was Lakitus cat.

demi-god

 

[QVT]

i can make fancy charts too! OHMYGOD LOOKITME

 

[MrPing1000]

so you like me and hate me at the same time?

 

[QVT]

See chart 1

 

[Cornballer]

Barcelona friendlies in the US were announced:

Major League Soccer and Spanish giants FC Barcelona officially announced its tour of the United States on Friday, with dates in Chicago (Aug. 3 vs. CD Chivas de Guadalajara at Soldier Field) and New York (Aug. 6 vs. New York Red Bulls at Giants Stadium).

Now that the matches are finally official, you can start making your plans. Tickets go on sale on June 2 (for the Chicago game) and June 3 (for the Red Bulls game) to the general public, with special pre-sales for Fire and Red Bulls fans before that.

 

[QVT]

Is there any talk of more? Like, LA?

 

[Cornballer]

I think that's it. There are a few other teams supposedly making preseason trips, but not a lot of it is confirmed yet.

 

[MrPing1000]

Btw

Tottenham have agreed a £12m deal for Barcelona's Mexican 19-year-old wonderkid Giovanni Dos Santos. (The Sun)

:lol :lol It wouldn't be the summer without Spurs getting linked to players they are never going to get.


We're off to South Africa again this summer, cause you know... all that untapped wealth down there.

 

[Cedeo]

Btw



:lol :lol It wouldn't be the summer without Spurs getting linked to players they are never going to get.


We're off to South Africa again this summer, cause you know... all that untapped wealth down there.

Ronaldo (fat one) a few years ago, Ronaldinho last year...

 

[SupahBlah]

Holy shit at that Metal Gear thread. :lol

I want the limited edition (I cancelled my regular pre-order of over a year ago) looks like I was premature in cancelling seems play have sold out. :lol

Maybe Fergie just likes going to South Africa? Liverpool always go to Switzerland for their pre-season.

Dunne is supposedly going to Spurs, I'm not sure why Dos Santos is being linked away from Barcelona when he was the Next Big Thing.