DeathbyVolcano
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Official Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess thread
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John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Uh, just beat the 7th? I guess dungeon. Master Sword + Sol = ridiculous.
I still think this blows OoT out of the water, and handily takes best adventure game ever award.
I still think this blows OoT out of the water, and handily takes best adventure game ever award.
Finished it, my savegame says 42 hours, that's excluding the last dungeon which took another 2 hours or so
. I only spent a few hours hunting poes, bugs and heart pieces, the rest is all the main quest.
Best. Zelda. Ever.
Like someone said earlier, TP is to OoT as the original Zelda is to LttP. OoT is such a crude game.
Solid dungeons, plenty of combat, very nice mini-levels
, great enemies and bosses and FANTASTIC artwork. Bizarro brilliant cutsenes, charater and music. And Midna!
It was also A LOT harder than WW. I like this difficulty level.
The last 14 hours of gametime I was in one session (well, I did stop to eat, drink coffee and take a shower). Soo....I think I'm going to bed now
lots of combat and low on puzzles, that's ok by me!
Best. Zelda. Ever.
Like someone said earlier, TP is to OoT as the original Zelda is to LttP. OoT is such a crude game.
Solid dungeons, plenty of combat, very nice mini-levels
(secret sewer passage )
It was also A LOT harder than WW. I like this difficulty level.
The last 14 hours of gametime I was in one session (well, I did stop to eat, drink coffee and take a shower). Soo....I think I'm going to bed now
I read that thinking I must know what you are talking about, and afraid that I had missed something! I haven't beaten the 8th yet.John Harker said:
I agree that this is easily the best Zelda designed yet, a wonderful evolution, but SINCE it is an evolution then some things are taken away from the experience that OoT had. My being a kid then, too, which makes for a difficult comparison. There was a certain mystification that I had with OoT because it was my first experience like that, was amazing for its pioneering, and because I was young I just immersed myself and didn't ask any questions. Now, with TP, the formula is way too visible which dampens the immersion and removes me from its world. eg., Instead of taking (dungeon 4 spoiler)
the spinning thing that attaches to rails
Above everything, though, I'm constantly impressed, drawn to the game (despite a busy life right now), and have recaptured a lot of love for Nintendo. If only they put this amount of care into all their games.
I like the difficulty level, but it really should have been harder. There are particular times in which I struggle, but they are very rare. And the bosses are always way too simple.
Boogie9IGN
Member
Still no answer to the soundtrack? 
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Ok just got to snowpeak at about 37 hrs in (geez im taking a long time with this compared to others) and cant find the
I have a feeling i have to find the
but not sure where he is... wait... is he with that shaman?
zora i have to show the sketch of the monster to.
I have a feeling i have to find the
prince
OK, I beat the game during Christmas. I tried to move slowly and did relatively many side quests (at least 3 hours of fishing, which is very cool) but being a Zelda veteran made it all quite easy: 35 h at the save before the final battle. I never got stuck, which I think is a first for me in a Zelda. Such an awesome experience - and I still need to find all the hearts.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
AniHawk said:
Crap, really?
Where is the Cave of Ordeals? I haven't done that yet.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Gerudo Desert
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
More specifically,
. I ended up running around everywhere when it's 5 feet from when you warp in. 
it's where the bridge piece was
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
BrandNew said:
No kidding. Is it apparant and I just missed it, or do you have to find it, wheres the entrace
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
fallengorn said:More specifically,. I ended up running around everywhere when it's 5 feet from when you warp in.it's where the bridge piece was
Ohhhh, ok. At least I found that. I just never went back
Thanks.Aussie player here.
Just finished the game Christmas morning. Over 36 hours to complete.
I was working 12 hours shifts all month so I stuck to the main quest for most of the time because there was not enough time in the day to just dawdle around and explore the world. First time I've done this with a Zelda game and it was the first time that I was kinda disappointed at the end of the game.
I'm a Zelda fan and I've played every Zelda game and I ended up feeling like this game was too overhyped.
List of things that I thought were crap about this game:
- The game was too damn easy. The puzzles were too easy. The game was too linear. I read this thread for the first time today and I couldn't believe how all these people were getting stuck. I thought NeoGAF was for hardcore gamers. Haven't you guys ever played Zelda before? Like WTF, dudes? WTF?
- The graphics were shit. Even with component cables. (Yes! Aussie component cables! Love.) Well, half the time it looked terrible but the other half of the time it was beautiful. I mean, it looked like crap until the first time you enter the Twilight realm. But you get used to it.
- The controls feel tacked on. Unsheathing the sword was annoying.
- Treasure chests with rupees. WTF, Nintendo? WTF?
- What the hell was that stupid warp bird that you find in dungeons? Did anyone even use it? Worst item ever.
- Boss fights were too easy. The bosses looked damn cool but they were weaksauce. The last boss
too easy.
Strategy what? What the hell was that? Easiest final boss fight ever? What a piece of shit.
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. You learn
once and then that's it. It's completely useless anywhere else. Get the **** out of here, Nintendo.
- Not enough horse-riding.
- Not enough dungeons. There should have been at least 36 for the amount of hype that this game was getting. A lot of the time it was long but simple, which made it tedious. I'd rather do a few difficult tasks than lots of little simple tasks.
- I haven't explored too much yet, but it feels like there could be more villages, NPCs, sidequests, etc.
- Not enough of that special Zelda charm. I enjoyed a lot of the game and there were some great moments especially when I discovered new items and story events unfolding that make you go
It's like they took the Zelda formula and just followed it without including enough of that special Zelda feeling. I think it lacked the charm of the 2D Zeldas. Wind Waker had charm. I think the mature style of Twighlight Princess ruined it. There were moments and little touches that made me think, "Oh shit. That's is so Zelda. ^_^"
But most of the time it felt like I was playing a shell of a Zelda game. A shell that lacked love.
Seriously, dudes. Seriously... they should've just got Miyamoto to make the game. I mean. Make the whole game by himself. Should've put him in a room to work on the game by himself for a few months. The dude wouldn't have to design anything, he'd just be programming. Sitting there typing. That's how gangsta he is. He just has to sit there and types code to make a game. Dude is so gangsta that
. No shit, that's what he and Yamauchi did back in the day when games were good and difficult. None of this weaksauce crap that you kids are playing nowadays. Shieeet.
Remember back in the day when you could bomb walls in Zelda. Except. The walls didn't have cracks that told you to bomb there? They're not really secret entrances if they have cracks. Shieeet.
Just finished the game Christmas morning. Over 36 hours to complete.
I was working 12 hours shifts all month so I stuck to the main quest for most of the time because there was not enough time in the day to just dawdle around and explore the world. First time I've done this with a Zelda game and it was the first time that I was kinda disappointed at the end of the game.
I'm a Zelda fan and I've played every Zelda game and I ended up feeling like this game was too overhyped.
List of things that I thought were crap about this game:
- The game was too damn easy. The puzzles were too easy. The game was too linear. I read this thread for the first time today and I couldn't believe how all these people were getting stuck. I thought NeoGAF was for hardcore gamers. Haven't you guys ever played Zelda before? Like WTF, dudes? WTF?
- The graphics were shit. Even with component cables. (Yes! Aussie component cables! Love.) Well, half the time it looked terrible but the other half of the time it was beautiful. I mean, it looked like crap until the first time you enter the Twilight realm. But you get used to it.
- The controls feel tacked on. Unsheathing the sword was annoying.
- Treasure chests with rupees. WTF, Nintendo? WTF?
- What the hell was that stupid warp bird that you find in dungeons? Did anyone even use it? Worst item ever.
- Boss fights were too easy. The bosses looked damn cool but they were weaksauce. The last boss
fights were
The last fight when you're fighting one-on-one with Ganondorf. WTF? He's left-handed so I just circled around his right side and hit him.
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Howling
a song
- Not enough horse-riding.
- Not enough dungeons. There should have been at least 36 for the amount of hype that this game was getting. A lot of the time it was long but simple, which made it tedious. I'd rather do a few difficult tasks than lots of little simple tasks.
- I haven't explored too much yet, but it feels like there could be more villages, NPCs, sidequests, etc.
- Not enough of that special Zelda charm. I enjoyed a lot of the game and there were some great moments especially when I discovered new items and story events unfolding that make you go
It's like they took the Zelda formula and just followed it without including enough of that special Zelda feeling. I think it lacked the charm of the 2D Zeldas. Wind Waker had charm. I think the mature style of Twighlight Princess ruined it. There were moments and little touches that made me think, "Oh shit. That's is so Zelda. ^_^"
But most of the time it felt like I was playing a shell of a Zelda game. A shell that lacked love.
Seriously, dudes. Seriously... they should've just got Miyamoto to make the game. I mean. Make the whole game by himself. Should've put him in a room to work on the game by himself for a few months. The dude wouldn't have to design anything, he'd just be programming. Sitting there typing. That's how gangsta he is. He just has to sit there and types code to make a game. Dude is so gangsta that
he programs in binary. He just has a series of ones and zeros running through his head and he sits there programming straight to the disc
Remember back in the day when you could bomb walls in Zelda. Except. The walls didn't have cracks that told you to bomb there? They're not really secret entrances if they have cracks. Shieeet.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Papi said:Aussie player here.
Just finished the game Christmas morning. Over 36 hours to complete.
I was working 12 hours shifts all month so I stuck to the main quest for most of the time because there was not enough time in the day to just dawdle around and explore the world. First time I've done this with a Zelda game and it was the first time that I was kinda disappointed at the end of the game.
I'm a Zelda fan and I've played every Zelda game and I ended up feeling like this game was too overhyped.
List of things that I thought were crap about this game:
- The game was too damn easy. The puzzles were too easy. The game was too linear. I read this thread for the first time today and I couldn't believe how all these people were getting stuck. I thought NeoGAF was for hardcore gamers. Haven't you guys ever played Zelda before? Like WTF, dudes? WTF?
- The graphics were shit. Even with component cables. (Yes! Aussie component cables! Love.) Well, half the time it looked terrible but the other half of the time it was beautiful. I mean, it looked like crap until the first time you enter the Twilight realm. But you get used to it.
- The controls feel tacked on. Unsheathing the sword was annoying.
- Treasure chests with rupees. WTF, Nintendo? WTF?
- What the hell was that stupid warp bird that you find in dungeons? Did anyone even use it? Worst item ever.
- Boss fights were too easy. The bosses looked damn cool but they were weaksauce. The last bosstoo easy.fights wereStrategy what? What the hell was that? Easiest final boss fight ever? What a piece of shit.The last fight when you're fighting one-on-one with Ganondorf. WTF? He's left-handed so I just circled around his right side and hit him.
-. You learnHowlingonce and then that's it. It's completely useless anywhere else. Get the **** out of here, Nintendo.a song
- Not enough horse-riding.
- Not enough dungeons. There should have been at least 36 for the amount of hype that this game was getting. A lot of the time it was long but simple, which made it tedious. I'd rather do a few difficult tasks than lots of little simple tasks.
- I haven't explored too much yet, but it feels like there could be more villages, NPCs, sidequests, etc.
- Not enough of that special Zelda charm. I enjoyed a lot of the game and there were some great moments especially when I discovered new items and story events unfolding that make you go
It's like they took the Zelda formula and just followed it without including enough of that special Zelda feeling. I think it lacked the charm of the 2D Zeldas. Wind Waker had charm. I think the mature style of Twighlight Princess ruined it. There were moments and little touches that made me think, "Oh shit. That's is so Zelda. ^_^"
But most of the time it felt like I was playing a shell of a Zelda game. A shell that lacked love.
Seriously, dudes. Seriously... they should've just got Miyamoto to make the game. I mean. Make the whole game by himself. Should've put him in a room to work on the game by himself for a few months. The dude wouldn't have to design anything, he'd just be programming. Sitting there typing. That's how gangsta he is. He just has to sit there and types code to make a game. Dude is so gangsta that. No shit, that's what he and Yamauchi did back in the day when games were good and difficult. None of this weaksauce crap that you kids are playing nowadays. Shieeet.he programs in binary. He just has a series of ones and zeros running through his head and he sits there programming straight to the disc
Remember back in the day when you could bomb walls in Zelda. Except. The walls didn't have cracks that told you to bomb there? They're not really secret entrances if they have cracks. Shieeet.
You'll be sad to know that Miyamoto played a much muc larger part in this game than the last two games.
And I disagree a ton with you.
This does make me a bit sad. Or something. I'm just saying... they should've just put him in a room and told him to make the game.BrandNew said:
I just beat level 1-8 of that Rollgoal game, or whatever it's called.
Does anyone think that playing that Rollgoal game with a GameCube controller is cheating since it automatically goes back to the neutral position when you let go of the control stick, while us Wii players (real gamers) must manually do it? Hey? Hey?
TheIkariWarrior
Member
Farore said:
I caught a red reekfish within the first 1-2 minutes of me trying to the first time.
I only had trouble fishing at the very beginning of the game. that took me an obscene amount of time. like over an hour.
TheIkariWarrior
Member
Papi said:Aussie player here.
Just finished the game Christmas morning. Over 36 hours to complete.
I was working 12 hours shifts all month so I stuck to the main quest for most of the time because there was not enough time in the day to just dawdle around and explore the world. First time I've done this with a Zelda game and it was the first time that I was kinda disappointed at the end of the game.
I'm a Zelda fan and I've played every Zelda game and I ended up feeling like this game was too overhyped.
List of things that I thought were crap about this game:
- The game was too damn easy. The puzzles were too easy. The game was too linear. I read this thread for the first time today and I couldn't believe how all these people were getting stuck. I thought NeoGAF was for hardcore gamers. Haven't you guys ever played Zelda before? Like WTF, dudes? WTF?
- The graphics were shit. Even with component cables. (Yes! Aussie component cables! Love.) Well, half the time it looked terrible but the other half of the time it was beautiful. I mean, it looked like crap until the first time you enter the Twilight realm. But you get used to it.
- The controls feel tacked on. Unsheathing the sword was annoying.
- Treasure chests with rupees. WTF, Nintendo? WTF?
- What the hell was that stupid warp bird that you find in dungeons? Did anyone even use it? Worst item ever.
- Boss fights were too easy. The bosses looked damn cool but they were weaksauce. The last bosstoo easy.fights wereStrategy what? What the hell was that? Easiest final boss fight ever? What a piece of shit.The last fight when you're fighting one-on-one with Ganondorf. WTF? He's left-handed so I just circled around his right side and hit him.
-. You learnHowlingonce and then that's it. It's completely useless anywhere else. Get the **** out of here, Nintendo.a song
- Not enough horse-riding.
- Not enough dungeons. There should have been at least 36 for the amount of hype that this game was getting. A lot of the time it was long but simple, which made it tedious. I'd rather do a few difficult tasks than lots of little simple tasks.
- I haven't explored too much yet, but it feels like there could be more villages, NPCs, sidequests, etc.
- Not enough of that special Zelda charm. I enjoyed a lot of the game and there were some great moments especially when I discovered new items and story events unfolding that make you go
It's like they took the Zelda formula and just followed it without including enough of that special Zelda feeling. I think it lacked the charm of the 2D Zeldas. Wind Waker had charm. I think the mature style of Twighlight Princess ruined it. There were moments and little touches that made me think, "Oh shit. That's is so Zelda. ^_^"
But most of the time it felt like I was playing a shell of a Zelda game. A shell that lacked love.
Seriously, dudes. Seriously... they should've just got Miyamoto to make the game. I mean. Make the whole game by himself. Should've put him in a room to work on the game by himself for a few months. The dude wouldn't have to design anything, he'd just be programming. Sitting there typing. That's how gangsta he is. He just has to sit there and types code to make a game. Dude is so gangsta that. No shit, that's what he and Yamauchi did back in the day when games were good and difficult. None of this weaksauce crap that you kids are playing nowadays. Shieeet.he programs in binary. He just has a series of ones and zeros running through his head and he sits there programming straight to the disc
Remember back in the day when you could bomb walls in Zelda. Except. The walls didn't have cracks that told you to bomb there? They're not really secret entrances if they have cracks. Shieeet.
Papi said:- Not enough of that special Zelda charm. I enjoyed a lot of the game and there were some great moments especially when I discovered new items and story events unfolding that make you go
It's like they took the Zelda formula and just followed it without including enough of that special Zelda feeling. I think it lacked the charm of the 2D Zeldas. Wind Waker had charm. I think the mature style of Twighlight Princess ruined it.
Er...no.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Holy crap, the Cave of Ordeals gets hard.
How frickin big is it?
I didn't get past the fight with the
. How far was I? Any tips?
How frickin big is it?
I didn't get past the fight with the
two flying dragon-type midbosses, and the one armored knight mid-boss
If I remember correctly, that's one of the
or something, so you're pretty close. There's
last five rooms
fifty rooms, and there's three poes in there on the 17th, 33th and the 44th floor. So if you remember when you fought the third poe you should be able to figure out what room you were in exactly.
John Harker said:
Ouch, there was only one more floor left after that (
with3 Darknuts
Magic armor
You should be able to make it if you got that far, the question is whether you're going to, you have to replay all those floors :s
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Darunia said:
hotdamn, really?
Yea, I didn't know what I was getting myself into. I didn't imagine a Zelda dungeon to actually have difficult combat :lol I just jumped in with only 1 fairy, no potions, and only 10 bombs and around 15 arrows. I was really hard pressed toward the end, I didn't know it was 50 floors.
Without the Magic Armor, I wouldnt have even gotten that far. What a bitch... I guess since I'm so close to beating it, I might as well give it one more go just so I can feel completed. Whats the end prize, worth it?
John Harker said:
Nah. You just get
fairies in all fountains, and the opportunity to buy fairy tears from the great fairy(heals you completely and gives you a short attack boost). I'll stop saying fairy now.
Ok I'll give some props to that dungeon Anihawk.
The battle with Argorok (BIRDZ DOODZ) in the City in the Sky was a pretty cool fight. Better than fighting Zant which was a little disappointing. After all his badassery during the game he was basically used as a boss to regurgitate earlier boss fights. Time to finish the fight at Hyrule Castle
Ok I'll give some props to that dungeon Anihawk.
The Dragon battle in the City in the Sky was a pretty cool fight. Better than fighting Zant which was a little disappointing. After all his badassery during the game he was basically used as a boss to regurgitate earlier boss fights. Time to finish the fight at Hyrule Castle
TheIkariWarrior
Member
I will admit that Ocarina of Time is much harder than Twilight Princess.
not even getting into Master Quest.
when you die in a dungeon/temple in TP, you start over at the room you were in. in OoT you start over at the start of the dungeon.
enemies are much tougher in OoT. and the time-based puzzles/mazes make it harder still.
but i love Zelda TP much more because it gets most things RIGHT. the lack of difficulity is balanced by size and length. it's perfect for the casual and non-gamers. it wont make them frustraited the way OoT can.
Zelda TP is my favorite Zelda.
im sure we will get some Zelda that are difficult like Ocarina of Time or A Link To The Past.
Im guessing Zelda Wii will be shorter (30 hours) but much harder.
not even getting into Master Quest.
when you die in a dungeon/temple in TP, you start over at the room you were in. in OoT you start over at the start of the dungeon.
enemies are much tougher in OoT. and the time-based puzzles/mazes make it harder still.
but i love Zelda TP much more because it gets most things RIGHT. the lack of difficulity is balanced by size and length. it's perfect for the casual and non-gamers. it wont make them frustraited the way OoT can.
Zelda TP is my favorite Zelda.
im sure we will get some Zelda that are difficult like Ocarina of Time or A Link To The Past.
Im guessing Zelda Wii will be shorter (30 hours) but much harder.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Keep playing and the story will clarify itself....somewhat.
Wow, Papis comments are so off base its almost humorous. Maybe your taste just plain sucks? 'Shell' of a Zelda games? This is, without argument, the richest Zelda game Ive ever played, from almost every single aspect. Maybe the style of play just isnt for you anymore.
Your dungeon comment confirmed my suspicions that your post was nothing but a troll post though. 36 dungeons eh? Most of us live in the real-world, and have realistic expectations of the content a game can possibly contain. And this is without a doubt the longest and the largest Zelda ever.
Sucks that you couldnt let yourself enjoy the game though. With your off-base comments, look like you were looking hard to fault the game, with illogical arguments no less.
I also have a decent # of nitpicks about the game- but I realize for every one thing that I believe the game does wrong, it does 20 things right. The fact that you dont have a single word of praise about the game says alot.
Your dungeon comment confirmed my suspicions that your post was nothing but a troll post though. 36 dungeons eh? Most of us live in the real-world, and have realistic expectations of the content a game can possibly contain. And this is without a doubt the longest and the largest Zelda ever.
Sucks that you couldnt let yourself enjoy the game though. With your off-base comments, look like you were looking hard to fault the game, with illogical arguments no less.
I also have a decent # of nitpicks about the game- but I realize for every one thing that I believe the game does wrong, it does 20 things right. The fact that you dont have a single word of praise about the game says alot.
ForzaItalia
Banned
36 dungeons:lol
"Nintendo's Twilight Princess Delayed until 2012"
"Nintendo's Twilight Princess Delayed until 2012"
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
I dont understand how people can get a fullfilling zelda experience by rushing through it in 35 hrs..
g23 said:
Papi said:List of things that I thought were crap about this game:
- The game was too damn easy. The puzzles were too easy. The game was too linear. I read this thread for the first time today and I couldn't believe how all these people were getting stuck. I thought NeoGAF was for hardcore gamers. Haven't you guys ever played Zelda before? Like WTF, dudes? WTF?
Who to believe, who to believe...