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Official Metal Gear Solid 4 Gameplay Demonstration YES YES ALL OVER MY OCTOCAM
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rollingstart
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Chemo said:
I can really only see someone being disappointed with RE4 for not having gameplay of previous games, not because its a bad game, that I could somewhat understand.
bud said:
they should do what Shenmue 2 for Xbox did, allow you to change filters on the game.
I personally would hate the green filter and am sick of it in The Darkness, blue filter FTW.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I personally think anyone hating on this game that is a MGS fan is kind of crazy.
I couldnt have asked for more from that trailer:
Unbelievable Graphics and familiar gameplay that looks evolved. I am absolutely sold on the playability of the game. I always felt that once you tried to take on enemies by just running and gunning in the other MGS's games the controls got really clunky and difficult to use. For this one it looks like they finally perfectly married being able to go stealth and jump into a full scale war with controls to easily evade and get bearings on your target.
Yeah from the JP Sony Store
Also any word if the gameplay demo is coming to the US Playstation Store and not just the Japanese one.
I couldnt have asked for more from that trailer:
Unbelievable Graphics and familiar gameplay that looks evolved. I am absolutely sold on the playability of the game. I always felt that once you tried to take on enemies by just running and gunning in the other MGS's games the controls got really clunky and difficult to use. For this one it looks like they finally perfectly married being able to go stealth and jump into a full scale war with controls to easily evade and get bearings on your target.
cicatriz said:
Yeah from the JP Sony Store
Also any word if the gameplay demo is coming to the US Playstation Store and not just the Japanese one.
bud said:
off-screen screen shots don't just magically give games color if normally don't. They do make games look better in other areas, though.
edit: hmm .. it does look like a shot from someone's tv. weird. the game is completely washed out on my tv. and it's not my settings cuz colors pop in other games on my tv.
Nuclear Muffin
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muffin's brother - mdta
I personally missed the factory/science lab and mansion settings, also the story and atmosphere was lacking the classic Resident Evil feel.
The gameplay was unquestionably awesome, so its not all bad...
I personally missed the factory/science lab and mansion settings, also the story and atmosphere was lacking the classic Resident Evil feel.
The gameplay was unquestionably awesome, so its not all bad...
Saint Gregory
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Flo_Evans said:
I didn't know that, I've been holding off on playing PO until I finally get around to finishing Snake Eater. I don't know how I keep getting distracted from that game but at least I have until next March to get through it.
I really did like how that ring worked in the ZOE games though. It's much better than constantly looking to the corner of the screen.
Goldrusher
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Gamersyde download link down ?
Also, I had problems downloading gamersyde videos straight to PS3. There's an error, lots of zeros and a 3 I think.
Also, I had problems downloading gamersyde videos straight to PS3. There's an error, lots of zeros and a 3 I think.
I'm not the biggest MGS fan. There's lots I'd like to change about it. However, I think it's pretty lame to come into a thread and just try to piss in everyone's koolaid. People are hyped for this game. Let them be. If you're not, take your disappointment elsewhere. Maybe go play a game that's better than MGS...if you can actually find one. 
Why do people still carry out these pointless crusades? PEACE.
Why do people still carry out these pointless crusades? PEACE.Lord Error
Insane For Sony
The problem with all the direct feed trailers so far, even the biggest ones (WMV on IGN, MP4 on Gamespot and PSN), is that the black color in them is not a true black, but rather dark gray. It's a common problem with encoding and tons of movie trailers on Apple site suffer from it as well. That kills the contrast right there, and who knows, there's maybe other color muting going on due to less than ideal encoding.
Ether_Snake
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Baryn said:
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It was just the cell processor they had finally recieved. I mean comon, this was like well over a year ago.
SolidSnakex
Member
Ether_Snake said:
How would CELL be the OOOO? He talked about how it was a feature they only had in cutscenes and weren't sure if they could add it into gameplay.
JimmyRustler
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I was hyped about many games in the past few years but I never reacted on critisim that way like people did in here..... I was a fan myself many years and now, because I'm disappointed in some terms, I can't say that because some kiddies here just want to hype it? Don't be ridiculous. Also I don't come in here and say "MGS sucks" - I name the things that I don't like and I also say what maybe would be better solutions. And what do I get for that? Stupid pics and gifs and sentences like "piss off"...... And now you come in here and critize me.... jesus.... Is this funny or sad?Pimpwerx said:I'm not the biggest MGS fan. There's lots I'd like to change about it. However, I think it's pretty lame to come into a thread and just try to piss in everyone's koolaid. People are hyped for this game. Let them be. If you're not, take your disappointment elsewhere. Maybe go play a game that's better than MGS...if you can actually find one.
fistfulofmetal said:
No, its more like MGS1 was so freaking awesome and revolutionary at the time.
MGS2 was first MGS on new console and blew people away with its graphics at the time.
MGS3, while awesome, was second on the console and their was a huge catalog of ps2 games to play when it was released.
MGS4 is again like MGS2, first MGS on new console. However, its graphics aren't nearly as impressive compared to its peers. But for me, the gameplay looks to be revolutionary again.
Ether_Snake
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SolidSnakex said:
Quote? I just remember them saying they finally recieved the XXXX.
AltogetherAndrews
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TheExorzist said:
Stop acting like a victim. You want a "few steps forward", and when someone mentions a few major improvements to the old format, you shrug them off as overdue and therefore clearly irrelevant. What the hell kind of argumentative technique is that?
And why is it seemingly so difficult for you to grasp that some of the "old shit" remains precisely because they in part make for MGS gameplay?
fistfulofmetal
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dionysus said:
That's another factor. We're both right.
revolverjgw
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TheExorzist said:
It's just naturally annoying when someone projects their own personal dislikes of the series onto others, and applies them to blanket statements like ''the fans aren't happy about the direction of the series, JUST LOOK AT TEH SALES'', when it's clearly incorrect. You keep demonstrating your lack of understanding of the series and its modus operandi, and even the business logistics behind it. It doesn't seem like Metal Gear is your kind of game.
Gearharaden
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TheExorzist said:
What are you? The new DoomBringer? Nobody gives a shit what you think, bye.
JimmyRustler
Member
But they are overdue - what doesn't means that they aren't under the "few steps forward"-motto. Is it so hard to understand that I expected a bit more than just things that are overdue since years?AltogetherAndrews said:
Why? Because you don't grasp that it's gameplay from the last century and some new stuff may be better. Thank god not everyone thinks like you do or we would play the same shit every year all over again....
JimmyRustler
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Seems like you actually do cause you always respond to my comments. Go and drink so warm milk dude. :lolGearharaden said:
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
well, that was pretty grey.
JimmyRustler
Member
Read the last few pages.Reilly said:
lastendconductor
Put your snobby liquids into my mouth!
I like what I'm seeing, except the animations... they're HORRIBLE. WTF Kojima, I hope those are a placeholder.
Also, I want more color.
Also, I want more color.
Goldrusher
Member
Holtz said:
PSN = Japanese subtitles
gamersyde = English subtitles
But as I said, it worked flawlessly in the past, now I get "An error occured during the download operation. (00000003)" when trying to direct download something from gamersyde/playsyde straight to PS3.
edit: Via pc, it gives me Service Temporarily Unavailable. Probably still down.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
McDragon said:
yeah. it's obviously technically impressive, but the aesthetic choices they've made..
:/
AltogetherAndrews
Member
TheExorzist said:
Again, you say that you want a few steps forward, yet you seem awfully hard pressed to even acknowledge the major improvements made as you have your sights set squarely on the inventory "issue" (which, had the game been designed with your wishes in mind, would count towards being a step towards limitation more than anything), to the point where you basically shrug them off. That makes your claim of simply wanting to see some steps forward seem quite empty.
You also claim that this is gameplay from the last century as if that is something that would automatically render it a negative. Some new stuff may be better, but there's a real good chance that it'd **** everything up real bad for everyone but the action shooter fan. For an example of where "modern" thinking in regards to inventory and just about everything else went wrong and largely alienated the existing fanbase, look at Deus Ex IW when compared to Deus Ex.
tha_con said:
I didn't say it was scripted, just that it looked scripted. And I don't consider this to compromise what I expect mgs4 to deliver. But certain stuff just looks stiff and odd. And then there are the things that they clearly should be able to respond to, like when snake shoots one soldier standing very close to a second one, the body of the shot soldier drops to the ground with such force that we hear it, but yet the soldier standing by his side doesn't have any visual response? I assume this is coming later, and will be in the final game, but these where the small things that annoyed me about the AI here.
And you say the AI will notice all these things, and that good(!), but if it goes along the lines of:
-guard sees dead body
-goes into 'yellow mode'
-contacts hq for search team
-search team comes and searches the area
-as 'yellow mode' runs out, search team returns to hq
-guard continue scripted patrol
Then I'm gonna be a little disappointed. As Kojima has said; this is a war-zone, I doubt any side has the man-power to dispatch search teams for stuff like this. And I assume there won't be search teams in the same sense as mgs2/3. rather the patrolling soldier will search on his own. I am still expecting him to act dynamically according to the situation and not follow a defined pattern (i.e. scripted) based on what triggers his suspicion. I also hope they'll do away with the defined, colour coded alert levels. Finding a body and then 45 seconds of not finding a perpetrator does not mean the soldier should revert back to his pre-"dead body" state of mind!
And the final point I want to make is about how the AI moves around when going from A to B, and when searching. When a party, who is moving fast, is coming around a corner they should be facing the corner before the turn, and have their heads focused above their toes. Previous mgs enemies have moved with their face towards the ground as if they are looking at their patrol-line on a grid. In mgs2 and 3 this is ok, since it's a controlled environment, but (again) this is a war-zone! so I expect the enemy AI to be on their toes at all times, especially when moving.
and when moving in pairs, as seen in the trailer here, they could adapt tactics like one person looking one way, and the other covering his back. this isn't stuff I expect, but it would be nice. what I expect though, is more head movement. when searching, and even to a certain degree when patrolling, the AI should be focusing on their complete environment, not just the front 90 degrees.
Pretty much the only "problem" with the graphics is the lack of color and contrast. They look awesome imo like they are now but adding those two could make things look so much better. Just use something that´s similar to the TGS 2005 color filter. (while this one is closer to the 2005 one than any other we´ve seen so far.)
SolidSnakex
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HomerSimpson-Man
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Chemo said:
F*ck me, this game is so so far away!
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SolidSnakex said:
Hmm, probably the filter then.
robertsan21
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Ether_Snake said:
what filter?
Nervous Hamster
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Nice ava, robert :lol !!!
first footage from the 360 Version of MGS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFYmrz4XoP0
:lol :lol :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFYmrz4XoP0
:lol :lol :lol
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