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shantyman said:
Apple Codecs? None of them are proprietary- they are based on standards.
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Who said anything about proprietary?

What I am saying is that the Apple H.264 Encoder is complete shit. Also, I am saying they might be putting a filter to yellow out/mess up the video before encoding.

MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) is a standard, yes, but depending on the quality of the encoder and settings the video coming out will look different/crappy. Apple is consistantly notorious for having crappy video encoding/playback with their Quicktime software.

Obviously from the camera shots that were recently posted you can see that the in game video is much different than the video that was released so whoever made that video used crappy encoding or capturing to create it.
 
Gearharaden said:
Ah, but can you carry the PS3 in your pocket and make calls with it?

And don't rebut with "Can you connect your iPhone to a 1080p HDTV and play MGS4 on it?" I know I can't, but that's the choice I made.
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An iPhone supposedly costs only little over $200 to manufacture. Take that, sit on it, and then come back and tell us how good you still feel about your purchase ;o
 
Hunter D said:
fixed.
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Um... actually I don't know if you've heard, but a rumble controller is coming out, and prototypes have been spotted in the wild.

In any case, they probably gave him responsiblities for sixaxis control as well.
 
Downloaded the video on PSN.

Looks pretty good. THey need to move the placement of the FPS gun and not have it looking like Doom 1 with it being in the center of the television.
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
They need to move the placement of the FPS gun and not have it looking like Doom 1 with it being in the center of the television.
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I thought it was a little high up myself...of course, I won't be playing in first person mode the whole time either, though.
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
They should just outsource the FP mechanics to Guerrilla
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Something tells me the viewpoints for the AK47 and the P90 were very unfinished.. Compare them to the sniper Mosin Nagat-scene, animation and the full monty vs. P90 no-animation what-so-ever.

Btw, who would have thunk anyone would be saying "outsource it to Guerrilla" a few months ago? :D
 
Arde0 said:
Now that sir....is a GREAT idea!! :)
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Good, now where is Ryan? RYYYAAAN!!!!!

Forsete said:
Something tells me the viewpoints for the AK47 and the P90 were very unfinished.. Compare them to the sniper Mosin Nagat-scene, animation and the full monty vs. P90 no-animation what-so-ever.
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I don't know man, I don't have a ton of faith in Kojima Productions' ability to develop a sensible first person view mechanic.
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
Downloaded the video on PSN.

Looks pretty good. THey need to move the placement of the FPS gun and not have it looking like Doom 1 with it being in the center of the television.
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he was aiming with ironsight
 
CreepingDea7h said:
Do we know yet if we will have the choice to not look through the iron sights (like in MGS3)? I hope so because walking around in FPV all the time like that would be strange.
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If the translation was correct, then it certainly appears as if that is the basic FP view option, at least for the gun view.
 
Forsete said:
Something tells me the viewpoints for the AK47 and the P90 were very unfinished.. Compare them to the sniper Mosin Nagat-scene, animation and the full monty vs. P90 no-animation what-so-ever.
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There was a definite difference; the assault rifles both seemed to have place-holder models to allow for a functional demonstration of the new first person mechanics. Hell. the AK looked like a piece of plastic.
 
Awntawn said:
An iPhone supposedly costs only little over $200 to manufacture. Take that, sit on it, and then come back and tell us how good you still feel about your purchase ;o
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I knew this before I bought kthxbai.

Plz.... stop trolling...
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Trying to avoid confrontation here, I'm the one getting trolled. I simply mentioned that I was out of money from the purchase and I get bombarded with criticism.
 
Finally saw it. You know what? It looks pretty damn bad. Why are all of you guys going nuts? I think Heavenly Sword and Killzone 2 looks way better. Even the gameplay doesn't look so "oh-ahhhh" you know? And yes, I've been an avid MGS fan.*





















*Kidding. The game looks freaking amazing. Brilliant. You know what rocks? The whole package looks to be superb. I loved every second of it. Kojima = god. The gameplay is just AMAZING.

By the way, people complaning about the graphics, get a grip. IMHO, this game has the best graphics out there. So far nothing touches it.

And Infinity Ward just got owned.
 
Gearharaden said:
I knew this before I bought kthxbai.



Trying to avoid confrontation here, I'm the one getting trolled. I simply mentioned that I was out of money from the purchase and I get bombarded with criticism.
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It's a freaking phone....
I hope you have never complained about the price of the PS3..because if you have then you are just a hypocrite.
 
ok, finally watched the gameplay video. pretty awesome. i like the little improvements here and there, combat is definitely a nice upgrade...and still looked very much like an MGS game in look and feel. so its good to go.
 
mr_nothin said:
It's a freaking phone....
I hope you have never complained about the price of the PS3..because if you have then you are just a hypocrite.
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exactly if you complain about ps3 price and have a iphone your point is invalid there both entertainment purchases -_-
 
Gearharaden said:
I've never complained about the PS3...ever. :S
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Price?
If you've complained about the price then I could see why people would jump all over you but if not then I don't see why people would....


Orrrr i'm guessing you have one then?
 
mr_nothin said:
Price?
If you've complained about the price then I could see why people would jump all over you but if not then I don't see why people would....


Orrrr i'm guessing you have one then?
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Don't have one, and I've never complained about the price. It just doesn't have enough games for me to buy it. I'm not going to buy any game system regardless of price unless it has at least 10 games I want to play very badly. It's close, though.
 
My first reaction watching the demo was: **CKKKKKKK I WANT TO PLAY THIS NOW!!!!!! :D :D :D

You know, the basic game's probably finished now, they just need the time to add lots of awesome/silly codec convos and unlockables. Kojipro :bow:
 
Amir0x said:
up until the part where he joins in the two factions fighting, I was like 'well this looks pretty good, but i'm not blown away. plus it doesn't seem to be anything special play wise.'

but then my god! My GOD!
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Are you going to join our ranks now Ami?
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Y2Kev said:
I just watched it on my surround sound system. Had to pipe it through my 360 cause of the stupid PS3 bug with the XMB and 5.1.

shit my pants when the explosions were going off :lol
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What XMB 5.1 bug? I thought it was the mp4 container that can't do 5.1. You were able to get 5.1 from the mp4 from Blimblim on the 360?
 
Some of the animation is really awesome and then some of it really sucks.

How come the animations we see the most are the sucky ones? Running, jumping, falling, moving while crouched are all pretty bad. And then you have these amazingly elaborate animations for feeling a dude's balls and doing homoerotic Judo moves, and hanging upside down and shit...

I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, because I'm really excited for MGS4, but I just think it's weird that some of the most basic animations - the ones we see all the time - seem the weakest.
 
recklessmind said:
Some of the animation is really awesome and then some of it really sucks.

How come the animations we see the most are the sucky ones? Running, jumping, falling, moving while crouched are all pretty bad. And then you have these amazingly elaborate animations for feeling a dude's balls and doing homoerotic Judo moves, and hanging upside down and shit...

I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, because I'm really excited for MGS4, but I just think it's weird that some of the most basic animations - the ones we see all the time - seem the weakest.
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The animations you are talking about, the ""sucky" ones, are those that need to be as fast and resposnsive as they can. The rest dont, so you see more mo-cap godness in there.
 
FortunateSon said:
Dirty trick
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Don't do that! I almost got upset before reading down to the asterix :lol

Just watched it on PSN and I'm stunned. I can't wait to see and do all the things Kojima and crew are doing RIGHT NOW!!

Some folks like recklessmind were talking about the animation: I think the not-so-good animations of things we see a lot of may be down to the fact that they're (at least partially/for the time being) re-used. Ball grabbing, Judo and hangin' are all new stuff, so they'd have to do them nicely from scratch.

That said, I wouldn't care if Snake looked the same running as he did in MGS3. It already looks like a masterpiece and I can't believe how quickly it feels like its come about.
 
Kojima has a thing for the male genitalia apparently. Game looks great btw, but I'm still more hyped about white knight and w/e Team ICO puts out.
 
quick note regarding having "never complained about the PS3" - seriously, if you can`t find something to complain about in any system, something is up. There is ALWAYS something that can be done better. It`s peoples jobs ESPECIALLY FANBOYS to get on companies backs to fix the stuff they get wrong. It amuses me that some fanboys seem to think being a fanboy just means sitting there defending every crap decission or every stupid issue with a console/game. It`s not... that`s not being a fan, that`s being a sheep.
Anyways...

MGS4 demo , as Amirox said :

up until the part where he joins in the two factions fighting, I was like 'well this looks pretty good, but i'm not blown away. plus it doesn't seem to be anything special play wise.'

but then my god! My GOD!
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totally agreed. the steath parts weren`t too different from what we`ve seen, but once you get to the two factions bit... ZOMG. It really does start to shine in that section. I just wonder what the balance is? I like the whole middle of a warzone thing, but i don`t particularly want to totally stealth my way through. Perhaps the whole thing will end up being a choice - you can try to pass through undetected, or you can get actively involved in shaping the war.

Could be very interesting indeed. I just wonder if it`s open enough that in the two faction fight that you could start killing the PMC soldiers... or BOTH sets of soldiers for that matter. The way Kojima was talking, it does sound like there is some element of choice in who you side with - will be interesting if it is the case of being totally mercenary. That in some sections it is just easier to side with one faction or the other, making some scenarios completely different depending on which side you decide to help out.

Bring it on - another PS3 game goes on the interested list. And a series i`m not particularly usally ecstatic about. wows.
 
Alright I was away for a day and OMFG!!@)@!I(~! This looks amazing! Saw the HD video on Gametrailers and wow. Can' f'ing wait to have me some Snake.:D
 
TTP said:
The animations you are talking about, the ""sucky" ones, are those that need to be as fast and resposnsive as they can. The rest dont, so you see more mo-cap godness in there.
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I'm getting dizzy reading your post... too much spin.

Seriously though, dude... I know where you're coming from (kind of) but I don't agree. I'm not expecting Uncharted-like animation, but I was expecting a marked improvement over MGS3. As creative as Kojima and team are... I figured they'd make Snake feel more alive while navigating the environment. I was expecting a little more of that CQC influence over his basic movements (similar to what you see in cutscenes). And again, I'm not saying I'm expecting cutscene-like animation, but I was certainly expecting more than what was shown.

They are still stale, and boring... any way you spin it.
 
i cant take it anymore. can anyone pleeeeeeeeease translate these. i even screen caped and cropped them. i know the knife's descrip mentions controls because it says "R2", and the solid eye's descrip has a circle. strangely, the grenade references R3....

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I dont like the fact you still have to go into a long list of menus to change things..thought they would have at least streamlined this. Obviously with a game like MGS4 its hard to be menu free but still its disappointing to see they didnt simplify it and kept it like this.

I also dont like the carried on over stiff animations of the guards Snake is around. Its not a last gen game so why make it seem like that.

The AI is also questionable. Snake was taking out a guard right behind another one and the other one didnt notice? again this seems to have carried over. This kind of stuff just takes you out of the immersion.

Another convulted plot? I hope not.

The things i liked:

The camera! finally Konami changed the camera to a more playable point of view like other third person games. This was definately needed.

I love the open endedness of the way you can approach situations. Seems like theres lots of variety here.

The graphics rock other than the stiff animations.
 
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