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Official NFL Playoffs thread - Why bother, just give the Pats the trophy edition
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Jags-Steelers game, TECMO BOWL style! :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ9wwFO2704&feature=related
Edit: nm, it's just a fan prediction, not a re-enactment of the real game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ9wwFO2704&feature=related
Edit: nm, it's just a fan prediction, not a re-enactment of the real game.
EclipseGST
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LiveWire said:
WR - If Mix is good then we don't need to wast time looking for another WR in the FA or draft but considering we won't know how good Mix until he has an actual game kinda makes this hard but still not a primary problem.
OL - wow......this was the biggest letdown this year due to injuries even though our backups did a great job it still hurts to lose the starters on the right side. I personally think we could draft a linemen to give better pass protection for Campbell.
DL - A better RE maybe? We need to compliment Andre Carter.
DB (FS, SS, & CB's) - Doughty is great and he should stay where he is right now as a starter. Doughty has the misfortune to replace ST and so far people want him out because he doesn't come near ST skills, and he never will but he is a solid player who with practice and play will be better.
Landry is a beast and just like ST plays "rough" in his rookie year but as evidence on Saturday he will be a HOF player by the end of his career.
Smoot is solid and he should be covering #2/#3 WR not #1. Springs is nearing the end of his career so I believe we need a CB as a pick or FA. Rogers is injured for a period and probably will never return to his full potential.
LB's - This is difficult because we lost Mcintosh probably all of next season as well. Now do we go and get a great FA or a rookie? I say pick up briggs because we do need it but be wise on how you get him (DO NOT TRADE PICKS PLZ!!!).
And as for some skins fans wanting the hawks to get theirs against the packers....well if the skins had won i'm 100% sure you'd have hawks fans saying they'd want the skins to lose to the Cowgirls because this is football and we are football fans.
I HOPE THE HAWKS LOSE.....but GG. GO PACKERS/CHARGERS/JAK!!!!
Tom Penny said:
The Special Teams completely killing our momentum in the 1st quarter and allowing the Jaguars to have the ball close to the 50 on their last drive was pretty big don't you think? It's not like this was a first time thing, they've allowed a good 5+ returns this year :lol
Spectral Glider
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Tom Penny said:
Or if the Patriots weren't child raping murderers.
Spectral Glider said:
Your better off facing the reality that Indy and the Pats will own the AFC for years to come and barring injuries to Manning or Brady that isn't going to change any time soon. Just get used to the fact the a SB isn't coming anytime soon for your team because it isn't.
Spectral Glider
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Tom Penny said:
Oooo, you so scary with your magic crystal ball. You shall burn at the stake for your sorcerer ways!
EclipseGST
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Hitokage said:
I hope I don't see the hawks in the SB...or the patriots. I dislike the hawks but don't hate but really don't see them as a SB team yet....oh and don't get me wrong...the skins are short of that as well. The Jax/Chargers/Packers have the best chances and I hope i see Chargers vs Packs...that is the SB i want. I HATE THE PATRIOTS!!!!
harSon said:I'm not exactly sure how to get a direct feed off Tivo and my camera is broken so I had to use a shitty one. But here is what I meant by 'help':
Everyone being held had a decent chance at making that tackle (Maybe not Polamalu considering hes injured).
Dude, that looks like every single running play in the history of mankind.
harSon said:I changed my mind when I rewatched the game
You cannot deny this one:
Watch it in motion. He was trying to pull away to make the tackle but was being held.
The point is, it wasn't called. no matter how much time you pour into internet super sleuthing, no one will go back and replay the down.
eznark said:
I never said it would or should be overturned. The point is there was holding, something that people won't acknowledge. I admit that there was horrible calls to the Steeler's advantage, why can't people do the same for this play?
LiveWire said:And out of all of those pictures, none of the Steelers in the range of Garrard would have stopped him from gaining 2 yards and a first down, so.....
Jaguars had no means to stop the clock and the difference between the potential field goal kicks is pretty substantial.
Spectral Glider
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harSon said:
Because Hines Ward is a face mask destroying mad man who tears heads off with his bare hands and then drags the headless bodies with him into the endzone where he spikes their decapitated heads and then mocks them with phony smiles. And nobody wants to root for a guy like that because it takes them to places in their soul they'd rather not go.
Or, something.
iapetus said:
And outside of that 32 yard run they weren't having the best of luck offensively in the 4th quarter. There is a pretty good chance that they would have failed to advance further resulting in a much longer kick in Heinz Field.
Tamanon said:There is holding on every single play, that's why.
But I tell you what, we'll take the 3 points off the board from the field goal if you take the Hines Ward facemask touchdown off. Then we'll run the scores again
Can we have the invisible 2 point conversion holding call as well? And the 'incomplete' pass that later resulted in an interception?
Tamanon said:There is holding on every single play, that's why.
But I tell you what, we'll take the 3 points off the board from the field goal if you take the Hines Ward facemask touchdown off. Then we'll run the scores again
Let them have a field goal instead, though. Fair's fair.
Yes, harSon, there were bad calls both ways. I've said that before in this thread, as you might have seen if you weren't blinded with righteous indignation. Was there holding on that play? Sure, of the type that you see go uncalled very often. Would it have been relevant if it weren't for a bad call against the Jags earlier in the game? No. Could that borderline incompletion have been ruled a catch? Sure, why not. As long as the one for the other team was as well.
The officiating wasn't good in the game, but it was uniformly bad, and it didn't lose either team the game.
harSon said:
As I said, only if we get the personal foul against Marcedes Lewis on Garrard's second interception and the identical 'incomplete' Wilford pass that led to a stalled drive when we needed momentum the most.
The Steelers lost that game because they played like shit in the first half of the game, and let the Jags get an 18-point lead. They lost the game because they couldn't get a first down when their playoff life depended on it. They lost the game because instead of pushing downfield like they'd done earlier in the game and kicking a field goal they let a defensive line consisting of one undrafted guy, two seventh rounders and a fifth rounder get to Ben and force and recover a fumble.
Trying to blame it on the refs is just pathetic. And trying to claim that the officiating was one-sided is pathetic and a severe case of denial.
iapetus said:
Referees influenced the game immensely, whether they effected the outcome of the game will never be known. To say they did not effect the game is negligence and pathetic IMO, letting them off the hook for horrible officiating is only going to result in more horrible officiating. But that is besides the point, I'm simply making the point that there was undoubtedly play changing holding going on during that play. Nothing more and nothing less.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Steelers lost it on that last 3rd and 6. Nothing more, nothing less. They could had won it there and made it end.
eznark said:
Sorry, but my position has always been clear. The team that wins on the day is the team that scores most points. If bad decisions go against you then you just need to score more points to make up for it. You can bet I wouldn't be as sore a loser as harSon had the Steelers got the job done on the last couple of drives.
You'll probably get a chance to see next week.
harSon said:I'm willing to bet the majority would have if the Steelers had one. Sports is serious business
Not the majority here, though possibly only because the Jags fanbase (playoff bandwagoners aside) is so small. I wouldn't touch your bet if you're talking about, say, the Jags message board. But I'd be in the thick of it telling them to man up and accept the loss, and that if we hadn't turned the ball over twice and suddenly forgotten what a first down was then Hines' facemasking wouldn't have been relevant.
Skiptastic
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zesty said:
Wow. I'm a huge Colts fan, but I didn't see that one coming. I was thinking that Patrick Willis was going to get it. If he doesn't get DROY then everyone is retarded.
iapetus said:
The only call i've ever complained strongly about was the Packer - Niner 98 playoff game when Jerry Rice clearly fumbled, but the refs blew it, leading to the TO catch. It was thre greatest playoff game in history, and was decided by the refs. That pissed me off.
Spectral Glider
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Tamanon said:
Hey man, nobody whiffs like Trai Essex...NOBODY! But that's not fair, for the most part, he played a good game. That's why the holding call on Mahan was so confusing, Mahan's usually on the ground getting run over.
iapetus said:
Not who voted for whom, but from the article:
Sanders did enough to earn 31 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the NFL. That was particularly impressive because it was a strong season for individual defensive performances.
Yet next closest in the balloting were Seattle end Patrick Kerney and Tennessee tackle Albert Haynesworth with four votes each.
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Also receiving votes were defensive back Antonio Cromartie of San Diego with three; linebackers Mike Vrabel of New England and DeMarcus Ware of Dallas (2); and cornerback Ronde Barber of Tampa Bay, linebacker James Harrison of Pittsburgh, rookie linebacker Patrick Willis of San Francisco, and end Mario Williams of Houston, each with one vote.
eznark said:
But isn't there a single point in the game where the teams could have made things different? A single incomplete pass earlier in the game, a single failure on defence that could have overcome that ref decision?
That's my point. It's easy to say the refs decided the game - especially when the key decision comes late in the game. But really the teams have conspired to make it possible for that decision to change the game. The Steelers-Jags game - whichever way it went - is probably the most obvious example, because both teams had one half of greatness and one half of abject suck. But even for less extreme cases there are always points of the game where the teams failed to deliver, which would have made the bad decision irrelevant.
j-wood said:I'm surprised no one is talking about the 4th quarter LT touchdown.
His forward progress was stopped guys. It was stopped
Nope. Second effort, before the whistle was blown. He Hadoken'd the ball across the line. Whoever it was for the Chargers (#86 I think?) deserves most of the credit for the TD, for coming in and pushing LT at the end of the dive and keeping the push alive.
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