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No touch pad. Not that I like the touch pad or anything, but some games actually require it for some awful reason. Also no speaker... same reasons...
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Official PlayStation "SCUF Vantage" Controller Announced
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RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Can I use Eneloops?
thelastword
Banned
I only mentioned these because manufacturers like hori are known, whether it's official or not, it's still a functional controller for those who specifically wanted an asymmetrical design. If you saw the post I responded to......it was implied that there are no options to DS4's. The point is, there is, there are quite a bit. Hori alone has quite a few controllers for PS4. There is the asymmetrical design for those who prefer the XBOX pad, there's the symmetrical design for people who prefer that design, there's the fightpad, (which I have one, with 6 face buttons). There is the mouse + touchpad combo...(the Hori Tactical assault.).....then there's the PRO version of that with the keyboard. That's just Hori alone, yet, there are more Hori controller products on PS4 than what I've just mentioned, imagine that, like the fighter pad (without the dpad adjuster), different to the one I have and of course the mini controller, and yes, most of these are licensed and even if they're not it's a Hori product. Being licenced does not mean the controller is worse from that company......
Yet, here they are and you can check them out....
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0106XFCPI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527292935&sr=1-2&keywords=hori+ps4+controller&dpID=41enwJFFLHL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1
I have this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKLFES8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L8QL2N8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075Q8557C/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Then there's the Razer Raiju...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075KJCML4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
There's the Nacon Pro V2
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075HJZHNX/?tag=neogaf0e-20
There's the Elite mods, with adjustable paddles et al...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBI9KU5/?tag=neogaf0e-20
There's the Sades, which are wireless and reasonably priced....
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0772KSQJ4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CXF28YK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
And there are so many more, controllers from other lesser known companies....some with very good reviews, like Tonsum, Chasdi.....for e,g.
This one has quite a few reviews and it's rated a 4/5
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BP1T1XV/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The Chasdi is highly rated too and there are so many other lesser known brands and controllers of all types. FPS, fighters, General or mimicked DS4's, asymmetrical, symmetrical. I've already mentioned madcatz. The point is, you can just take a normal PC controller and it will work on PS4, I just don't understand how anyone can say all you have is the official DS4.
The reason people buy the official DS4 is simply because it's a great controller and it's from the company making the console. Yet, if you want an alternative it's there in spades, in all flavors......And speaking of ergonomics, that's really something innit? My left hand is not shorter than my right hand, last I checked my arms/hands are equal length, so much for ergonomics. When I sit at a table or desk I don't shoot my left hand higher.......Saying you prefer an asymmetrical design is fine, but please don't pretend it should be default or a normal design on PS systems. Millions of Dual Shockers around the world since PS1 are perfectly fine and have not bat an eyelash, 80 million PS4 owners who are buying DS4's in droves could not careless about an asymmetrical design because it's available if they want to go that route. You should really stop trying to heighten your preference as the one that's preferred, because it's not....and if you get asymmetrical designed controllers and you still complain, then I guess you will just complain about everything.......
In the end, there are third party controllers of all types/persuasions and prices, available for the PS4.......nobody is being held at gunpoint to play or buy the DS4's.
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Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Yes, because so many people love buying third party controllers.
I mean as far as the Dualshock goes.
People who prefer offset have no choice. So saying "All those people buying dualshocks prefer symmetrical" is dumb. I prefer offset but I won't buy a third party Dualshock. Make no mistake, if Sony were to switch to offset next gen, you'll find a tonne of people much like yourself who suddenly "come around" on the idea.
thelastword
Banned
So you've shifted the goalpost from "what choice do they have anyway" to "who the hell likes buying third party controllers"?? Hmmmm...
Here's the thing, I have 4 dual shocks and I still bought a third party controller in the HORI. I had several third party controllers for the PS3 as well, yet I had no problems with the DS3, as it's what I mostly used. Yet, I do remember that I had an adapter playing SF4 with a Dual-Shock 2 on a 360 last gen, because the XBOX 360 DPAD could literally cut you. Yet, I played everything else on that console with the default pad. The DPAD was atrocious, but there has never been an issue like that on a Dual Shock controller, every PS controller has had great DPADS, Hell, Luffy still uses a DS1. As for the sticks, symmetrical sticks are just normal for most hands, yet, if I felt like I preferred asymmetrical sticks, I'd just get one of the many available for PS4 and stop complaining.....or solve that problem...
So it's two things.....
1.) The DS4 causes you no issue, but you want to make one regardless
2.) You have a problem with the DS4 but refuse to get a third party pad that will solve it.
So who do you want to blame?
It's crazy, but I think some of you guys just want Sony to do an Asymmetrical pad, to justfiy your love for the design. So you'll get statements like "Hey, Sony finally saw the way" "they've got the right stick placement at last"....or some will still come in and say "this asymmetrical DS is not close to the quality and comfort the xbox pad" a la loop.........The point is, as of right now or many eons ago, you have/had an option. If your problem is stick placement, there's a solution, if your problem is wanting to spend $100-200.00 for an elite controller, there are solutions, if you want a mouse and keyboard/controller hybrid, you have a solution. If you want a cheaper alternative like the DS4 with solid build quality, you have many options.....
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I don’t care about asymmetrical design, I even said that.
My hands are exactly the same lenght, just like yours and everyone else’s..that’s not the point. The reason why DS is selling so much is that it’s the main official peripheral on the main home console in this generation. Average gamer won’t go Hori, Nacon, Razer and so on.
Ergonomycs are a different take, Xbox/PC controllers fit just better, there is a much deeper research on hands natural curves whereas DS4 is much more “spartan” in the way it fits in the hands.
And I even said that DS4 is by far the best PS controller Sony made from 1995...sure I hope they learn from their third party partners next gen, not regarding asymmetrical (I don’t give a damn about it) but about ergonomycs.
They have all the means.
If we all thought the way you do, we would never ever had such an improvement on DS4.
DESTROYA
Member
Probably not just personal preference.
As for the SCUF controller it does look nice but not $200 nice.
Later Alligator
Member
man id love a wireless controller with asymmetrics sticks for the ps4, but not paying $200 for it
looks like all of the options available are wired only, which is a deal breaker for me
looks like all of the options available are wired only, which is a deal breaker for me
thelastword
Banned
No, if anything a symmetrical design is more natural/normal. Asymmetrical is just a choice and an alternative design, which people have access to if they so desire. Anyone's preference in controller types is not law, but the ergonomics argument on the asymmetrical design is laughable at best.......Even for shooters where they say the 360 pad was better, some of the best test times you can find in Modern-Warfare is on a DS3, the highest scores in Bayonetta was with a DS3 too, and that was a woeful port with bad framerates there.....
At the end of the day, play with what you want to play with. I mean some people play SFV with a keyboard and are unstoppable. Some guy was playing GOW with a mouse and keyboard and he swears by it. The point is, there are options whatever you prefer, which is the point. Hell, you can take any generic PC controller and it will work on PS4......So those DS4 sales are certainly not because they have no choice, Eh! maybe it's because they just like the controllers??.....A strange concept to some innit?
thelastword
Banned
MrBenchmark
Member
I use this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077MLHBM6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
With big hands I hate the PlayStation controllers the sticks cramp my hands and the triggers are too small and the stick material and shape is terrible.
These ain’t bad but I’m not paying $200 bucks
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Here's the thing, I'm about to buy the Hori Onyx. Beause it meets the build quality requirement while also being wireless. So yeah, there is a solution. The Hori is the closest thing to getting an Xbox controller for the PS4. Because I wouldn't use a wired controller (another reason for not touching a third party one in 99% of cases) if you paid me.
LucidFeuer
Banned
I'm baffled by the lack of useful implementations, development and innovations of this controller. I'm going to call-it the dualcouch-potato...