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Official: Trump to revoke transgender bathroom guidance
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Lord Frieza
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It being like other midterms isn't bad. Midterms generally are against the party in the White House. The Senate is probably a lost cause, but the House is very possible, even though gerrymandering is a real concern.
He campaigned on leaving LGBT rights up to the states. This isn't something he suddenly did to please someone.
Octavianus
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Give him a chance!
VendettaRed07
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Is it wrong that I think if he keeps going down this road to appeal to the religious right it will probably hurt him politically more than anything else he has done or said so far?
Side stepping LGBT issues and not going after them 100% helped him win the election.
He's going to regret this.
Side stepping LGBT issues and not going after them 100% helped him win the election.
He's going to regret this.
Transgender Americans have much less widespread acceptance than lesbian, gay, and bisexual Americans. Not just among the religious right, but also among secular Americans. Discrimination against them is even acceptable among some liberals, as Bill Maher demonstrated on Friday.
Conservatives probe the general public reaction for where the line they can acceptably cross is. This is that line.
ElectricBlanketFire
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This was a campaign promise that he's making good on. Won't hurt him at all.
"we firmly thow our hands up and deffer to another level of government"
excelsiorlef
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Literally Trans folk have to hope for the benevolence of the NBA and NFL and the NCAA n shit even more ... awesome
Problem is this is going to now be a school by school thing.... it won't be North Carolina, it'll be Andre Jack High and JFK High and whatever in cities all over and it'll be kid by kid....
Problem is this is going to now be a school by school thing.... it won't be North Carolina, it'll be Andre Jack High and JFK High and whatever in cities all over and it'll be kid by kid....
Yes. We respect state authority. And that's why we're revoking federal funding for cities that defy our authority on sanctuary status.
What do you mean that doesn't make sense? YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE.
How About No
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The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
This atmosphere will drive more kids to suicide
pigeon interrupted
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It pains me to see this happening. The community needs to support itself because your president won't. There will be deaths of the most vulnerable and most harmless. BUT RELIGOUS FREEDOM. Jesus wept.
nintendoman58
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Wait, so he held up a flag saying LGBTs for Trump while also saying he was going to remove their bathroom rights? I don't remember that being a campaign promise.
The norm for mid terms has been to blindly vote against the incumbent executive party. Add a dash of outrage and we'll probably be OK, the real question is how many seats are open and if they can be realistically taken.
EDIT: And it's sad that it's become so routine to see his shit that it barely merits me making a comment. But I should be more active in... whatever I can be active in just so pressure is there rather than apathy to action.
"We only care about states rights when it involves the ability to strip away something or removes protections from citizens."
Which is sad, because new research just came out that showed the legalization of gay marriage in states over the past few years has actually contributed to the decline in lgbt youth suicide rates.
plagiarize
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This is abhorrent.
People just want some dignity while they're using a goddamn bathroom.
I predict this lasts until the point where a straight Christian woman is confronted and forced to prove her gender when trying to use female facilities.
People just want some dignity while they're using a goddamn bathroom.
I predict this lasts until the point where a straight Christian woman is confronted and forced to prove her gender when trying to use female facilities.
Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor
We affirm the right of every New Yorker to use the bathroom that fits their identity. A new president will not change our values.
Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor
Last year, we ensured access to restrooms that align with a person's gender identity. That's not changing. http://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-m...-bathroom-access-people-consistent-gender/#/0
We affirm the right of every New Yorker to use the bathroom that fits their identity. A new president will not change our values.
Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor
Last year, we ensured access to restrooms that align with a person's gender identity. That's not changing. http://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-m...-bathroom-access-people-consistent-gender/#/0
CheesecakeRecipe
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But remember guys, we should make sure bathrooms can't be abused. You know, for the kids.
Call anyone and everyone out on their bullshit over this. Don't let one foot gain an inch. As soon as these protections are removed, their witch hunt has fuel to do far, far worse.
Call anyone and everyone out on their bullshit over this. Don't let one foot gain an inch. As soon as these protections are removed, their witch hunt has fuel to do far, far worse.
onadesertedisland
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Glad to see our nation so focused on important issues, like where people take a shit.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Fulminator
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Usually I'm for states deciding things, but protection for marginalized groups with a known history of intense discrimination directed towards then should absolutely be required
Will we ever get to a point where all bathrooms are unisex
Will we ever get to a point where all bathrooms are unisex
Abstrusity
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Yeah so he's the Mayor of NYC but does Cuomo also affirm that?
'cause I need to get out of Florida before I start going feral antifa but I probably can't afford to live in NYC unless I sell sexual fulfillment.
Pandora012
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If he want's everything to be determined by the states and a smaller federal government. What's the point of having him as president? He's just brushing everything to the side.
They've been pretty much on the same side in regards to Trumps actions that effect NY. Also if you do want to live in NYC, the outer boroughs are generally more affordable.
How are they more capable? This is a human rights issue, not a state's issue. There are no variables, there are no specific state issues to consider. Bathrooms are bathrooms in Utah or New York. Such horseshit.
He doesn't. It's just an excuse to take away rights but waive responsibility for it.
States' rights go out the window on anything he does want like the Muslim ban or sanctuary cities.
Good.
Now we can get this before a court and settle the civil rights issue.
I didn't like that we had to have the courts tell everyone that marriage isn't just for straight people, as I would have preferred that states come around to that decision on their own. However now that we know the courts can be used to settle this civil rights issue, let's get it done.
Now we can get this before a court and settle the civil rights issue.
I didn't like that we had to have the courts tell everyone that marriage isn't just for straight people, as I would have preferred that states come around to that decision on their own. However now that we know the courts can be used to settle this civil rights issue, let's get it done.
VendettaRed07
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Then why did the governor of NC lose re-election.
He targeted trans people, and it totally blew up in his face.
Abstrusity
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He only BARELY lost, and it was mounting pressure from corporations and sports that did it.
VendettaRed07
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It was not widely talked about or advertised that he would. I still stand by the point that avoiding any real bad sound bites or actively targeting LGBT people during the campaign helped him significantly.
If this actually goes into practice and people can visibly see he is targeting trans people it will with out question hurt him.
Companies were pulling out of North Carolina. He was costing them jobs and money and basketball.
I'm very skeptical that people would have stood up for trans people on their own
Dems should be focusing on winning back state elections by 2020 so they can redistrict as they see fit...
VendettaRed07
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He barely lost an election he would have easily won without going after them.
Think about it, he ticket split worse than Trump for a reason. Considering how much went well for republicans this election, him suffering significant political blowback for this one issue is a big deal
Corporations can also bring pressure on trump as well
plagiarize
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It's still a good sign that even a state like NC turned on their governor (even if only barely) over it. To my understanding it still leans safely republican.
I hope you can get somewhere that will accept you though, even though I have to acknowledge that it's more a case of somewhere that will be less shitty to you then Florida. Unfortunately I'm not sure of anywhere that Trans people don't have to deal with bullshit day in and day out.
I still think we're making progress with hearts and minds on this issue. But it is beyond painfully slow.
Why were companies pulling out?
That isn't standing up for trans people?
Any state that follows NC is going to be destroyed by a combo of Brain Drain, tourism reductions, and progressive businesses/organizations pulling events and job opportunities.
Is it worth it just to be hateful assholes? We will find out.
balladofwindfishes
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It being like every other mid term is a good thing lol
Seriously, if we let the states decide I can clearly see how this will go. All religious southern states will ban transgenders from using the bathroom of their choice and the others will allow it. It's like saying the federal govt doesn't need to get involve with segregation laws and it's a state issue. Such fucking bullshit.
davepoobond
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he's just doing what he said he would do which no one thought he would do!
fucking dumb
fucking dumb
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Yup, once the NBA and NCAA pulled out that is what did it. Money talks.
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