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[Old Interview] In 2012, EviLore turned down $5,000,000 to keep control of NeoGAF
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Cocaine is one hell of a drug.
...that I am fortunately NOT addicted to, so I'd be able to swing a reasonably comfortable lifestyle eeking by on 3% of 5 mil per year, thank you very much.
Damn.
So you'd have kept the site as he has done then?
Fair enough. Ask a foolish question, expect foolish answers.
mocolostrocolos
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I had the oportunity to meet Evilore back in summer of 2012 when he did his Eurotrip.
He seemed to me just a normal person who loves what he does. If he turned down the 5M offer I think it's because he really felt that GAF was just a part of him as his eyes or his arms.
He seemed to me just a normal person who loves what he does. If he turned down the 5M offer I think it's because he really felt that GAF was just a part of him as his eyes or his arms.
And probably he has a shitload of money
ScriptedReality
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For ten mill there wouldn't of been a question.
Ignore long term investments
Throw away a project you've devoted your life to
Get that short term money.
I think Evillore is in a better place to make an informed decision on this. $10,000,000 may seem like a lot of money, but GAF as a whole is worth more than that.
boclfon479
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except he said he has been offered double since
NaughtyCalibur
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That's what I'm assuming as well, having never met him.
NeoGAF is part of his identity, and -- as much as I hate to get all metaphysical here -- selling it would be the closest thing to him selling his soul.
Most people find happiness in their lives making $35,000/year or less. Tyler has more than enough money to enjoy his life, plus he has the freedom to travel and work virtually anywhere in the world (or on Mars if he can get a connection), so selling, even for $1 billion, probably doesn't really seem that appealing.
If he does sell for a ridiculous amount though, I bet he'd redistribute some of the wealth to the members who have stood by him from the start. That's the kind of guy I think he is, but again I'm just speculating.
dragonbane
Member
If you ever accept Evilore make sure every Member gets his post count multiplied by 10 paid out in cash
GrayFoxPL
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open_mouth_
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well deserved because he put in the work and he saved GAF when it was on the brink of vanishing. He wisely cultivated it to the place it is today. 99.9% of people out there could not have done the same.
It's making him good $$$ now and it's value is only increasing so why sell it now when it will likely be worth more as it continues to grow? We all know once it's sold, it won't be the same and unless the right buyer buys it, it is likely to be dead within 3-5 years under new ownership if the past is any indication.
Evilore is more business savvy than he's too humble to admit.
It's making him good $$$ now and it's value is only increasing so why sell it now when it will likely be worth more as it continues to grow? We all know once it's sold, it won't be the same and unless the right buyer buys it, it is likely to be dead within 3-5 years under new ownership if the past is any indication.
Evilore is more business savvy than he's too humble to admit.
QisTopTier
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LOL. Legend
context?
TheRagnCajun
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EviLore should sell exclusive content to publishers.
$5,000 ~ early acess to the beta |OT| thread for one game of your chosing. Be first to post! Provide feedback for the topic creator! Help shape the thread!
$25,000 ~ megathread |OT| of one game of your chosing. Professionally done with at least 10,000 posts. (ModBot will bump as necessary)
$50,000 ~ Legendary thread |OT| of one game of your choosing. Same as above, plus: The |OT| thread will be posted an extra week early before release date, immunity from being banished to the /community forum. Guaranteed NeoGAF celeb posts.
$200,000 ~ EviLore-sanctioned For/Against thread. Challenge the GAF Hivemind through a rivetting course of psuedo-psycology, probably to the detriment of your future game.
$5,000 ~ early acess to the beta |OT| thread for one game of your chosing. Be first to post! Provide feedback for the topic creator! Help shape the thread!
$25,000 ~ megathread |OT| of one game of your chosing. Professionally done with at least 10,000 posts. (ModBot will bump as necessary)
$50,000 ~ Legendary thread |OT| of one game of your choosing. Same as above, plus: The |OT| thread will be posted an extra week early before release date, immunity from being banished to the /community forum. Guaranteed NeoGAF celeb posts.
$200,000 ~ EviLore-sanctioned For/Against thread. Challenge the GAF Hivemind through a rivetting course of psuedo-psycology, probably to the detriment of your future game.
aspiegamer
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It's surprising at first look, but then again not terribly surprising now that I think about it a bit more.
Depending on how information gets out and the painfully brutal honesty here, a massive neoGAF thread could easily cost a particular company tens of millions of dollars. Leaks here spread across the internet in minutes. I've read many articles from respected news sources that were only one click removed from someone else citing NeoGAF as their source.
Think of the huge fuss during last year's E3, for example. Microsoft got trashed here (deservedly) in a way that no general gaming media site could because at the end of the day Microsoft is either directly or indirectly related to their revenues. No matter how honest certain writers were willing to be they know that shadow is on the horizon.
GAF helped fuel the public perception of the Xbox One being a slow trainwreck in progress, played a part in huge string of 180s, and irked Microsoft enough to send official corporate PR here after substantial levels of unofficial astroturfing got squashed. It sparked memes notable enough to get @yosp to tip his hat to a single animated gif. It's actually pretty damn awesome. It's not unreasonable to think of a hardware or large software maker wanting to plop down a lump sum to try to eliminate these kinds of intangibles in their business plans. That's a power few sites of any kind can boast.
Depending on how information gets out and the painfully brutal honesty here, a massive neoGAF thread could easily cost a particular company tens of millions of dollars. Leaks here spread across the internet in minutes. I've read many articles from respected news sources that were only one click removed from someone else citing NeoGAF as their source.
Think of the huge fuss during last year's E3, for example. Microsoft got trashed here (deservedly) in a way that no general gaming media site could because at the end of the day Microsoft is either directly or indirectly related to their revenues. No matter how honest certain writers were willing to be they know that shadow is on the horizon.
GAF helped fuel the public perception of the Xbox One being a slow trainwreck in progress, played a part in huge string of 180s, and irked Microsoft enough to send official corporate PR here after substantial levels of unofficial astroturfing got squashed. It sparked memes notable enough to get @yosp to tip his hat to a single animated gif. It's actually pretty damn awesome. It's not unreasonable to think of a hardware or large software maker wanting to plop down a lump sum to try to eliminate these kinds of intangibles in their business plans. That's a power few sites of any kind can boast.
Pancakes R Us
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Turned down $5m? Damn. I tip my hat to you, good sir.
Where do you think the money is coming from now?
Cynn
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Why is there no NeoGaf PAX type event? I'd like to preorder my NeoGafering Expo tickets please. (And then cancel them hours later in a preorder cancelled thread)
KojiKnight
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Never enough respect for EviLore.
anotherVegan
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I can't even
Mad respect for Evilore if he really was offered 5 mil and turned it down to keep this site free of all that bullshit. It really is a better forum because of it, and even if I do complain about silly topics that pop up once in a while, GAF is truly the best place to discuss video games. Best place for news as well.
Intheflorsh
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EviLore knows power is more valuable than money.
silver.tongue
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batman2million
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This reminds me of when I gave up a job that paid me 40k more than I make now just because I'm content where I am and everyone ridiculed me for it.
Kudos to you, Evilore. Not everything in this world is about money.
Kudos to you, Evilore. Not everything in this world is about money.
GAF Gold members can get into E3 for free this year.
Aquamarine
Member
Really glad we have an owner who isn't a corporate behemoth or a scumbag.
EviLore is so, SO much better than the alternatives.
EviLore is so, SO much better than the alternatives.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Wow, gotta applaud you for that.
You deserve every penny of whatever you get from this site. It wouldn't be the same without you.
that e3 actually sounds interesting
no press allowed
This is where I disagree, I think NeoGAF is a message board that - with the moderation policies in place - is self-sustaining. Granted, some of those policies come from EviLore (but his own interviews suggest GAF had strong moderation policies in place before he ever purchased the site); I've been here since some time in 2007/2008 and the biggest change I can remember is adding the community boards. I feel like GAF's success is as much a result of the community/members (which were already there), as it is pure luck with Evil being in the right place at the right time to buy it up when it was about to disappear. It's cool that he doesn't shill it out to some giant company though.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Offered double since? HOLY COW.
The world needs more people like you, my friend. Bravo.
The world needs more people like you, my friend. Bravo.
The_Darkest_Red
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Thanks, EviLore!
jadedm17
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I certainly wouldn't have blamed him.
How long can you hold? Do you seek that thing beyond worldly riches? Are you waiting for the right price?
You have my respect.
FullMetaltech
Member
You cant put a price on GAF. At this rate we need to have him inducted for Saint Hood for not giving in.
BoboBrazil
Member
Neogaf is worth at least $30 million in my estimations if you look at potential long term gains.
All money is is the ability to buy services or material goods. But if Evilore earns enough to live comfortably without having to worry about it, having more won't suddenly make him happier. Above a certain threshold having money doesn't bring you more happiness unless you start giving large amounts of it away or putting it towards altruistic causes. (I read this in a study a while back, cannot remember which one.)
Long story short, something like Neogaf with a lot of personal value to evilore could be worth more than any amount of money to him. And once you feel like that about someting increasing the amount of money offered isn't going to make a difference. (assuming he feels this way)
Yep, CJayC sold GameFAQs in 2003 for an estimated $1M. But I also think he said he just didn't want to work on GameFAQs anymore.
Respect, dude. I would have sold out at $5 million.
lmao ahah
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