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[Aquamarine]

Is EviLore about to become the gaming industry's first billionaire?

Banner ad revenue continues to shrink and EviLore refuses to incorporate intrusive, excessive advertising into GAF

Costs of maintaining NeoGAF are rising because it continues to surge with popularity


Yeah no.

 

[Alebrije]

GAF , Wikipedia and other sites that not have fallen on the marketing temptation.

Respect.

 

[Aquamarine]

GAF , Wikipedia and other sites that not have fallen on the marketing temptation.

Respect.

Wikipedia spends all of its time marketing its donation campaigns.

 

[supernormal]

EviLore knows power is more valuable than money.

Came here to post this.

Money is the Mc-mansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after 10 years. Power is the old stone building that stands for centuries.

 

[Izcarielo]

well deserved because he put in the work and he saved GAF when it was on the brink of vanishing. He wisely cultivated it to the place it is today. 99.9% of people out there could not have done the same.

It's making him good $$$ now and it's value is only increasing so why sell it now when it will likely be worth more as it continues to grow? We all know once it's sold, it won't be the same and unless the right buyer buys it, it is likely to be dead within 3-5 years under new ownership if the past is any indication.

Evilore is more business savvy than he's too humble to admit.

What happened to Gaf in the past? Ive been here only for 3 years so I dont know what kind of problems the forums faced in the past.

 

[nullset2]

Why sell out for 5 Million when you can build a 500 Million empire, amirite Evilore?

Good decision.

 

[Gwanatu T]

Came here to post this.

Money is the Mc-mansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after 10 years. Power is the old stone building that stands for centuries.

Wait is this where he lives? Is it near the Ask Gary guy's mansion?

 

[RustyO]

5 mil isn't shit these days, you can't live comfortably on that and he's already said he loves his job so why sell it? So he can buy coke and hookers for 3 months?

like that saying goes. find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life

This. $5m is pocket money in the grand scheme of things. You have a job that you love / is self suffcient, that isn't "work" per se, and who knows what the revenue numbers are like anyway?

 

[EL CUCO]

Because EviLore is the hero that GAF deserves, not the hero that it needs right now.

 

[kinggroin]

So you'd have kept the site as he has done then?

Lens of Truth

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

Note to some in the industry: Stop hating the market.

Radio show hosts never berate their audience for a reason.

 

[Drencrom]

Offered double since

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Offered double since

RESPECT.

 

[7DollarHagane]

I would rather have a steady income stream doing something I love than almost any sum of money in exchange. Makes sense.

 

[jimi_dini]

Please EviLore, don't sell GAF.

If they double the offer a second time, he should definitely sell it

Spoiler

unless it makes him more than a million per year already lol

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And after he sold it, he should just create http://www.newneogaf.com.

 

[IvorB]

I can only admire such a principled man. I would have cashed in that 10 million and be on a yacht to Tahiti by now.

 

[Keirnoth]

He could use that money to run that other guy's Game Center!

 

[SnakeEyes]

He could use that money to run that other guy's Game Center!

Shit, could still do that with the money he gets from owning GAF

 

[Aquamarine]

If they double the offer a second time, he should definitely sell it

Spoiler

unless it makes him more than a million per year already lol

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And after he sold it, he should just create http://www.newneogaf.com.

NeoNeoGAF

 

[Dennis]

You're my hero.

Thanks man. It is always nice with appreciation.

 

[KojiKnight]

If they double the offer a second time, he should definitely sell it

Spoiler

unless it makes him more than a million per year already lol

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And after he sold it, he should just create http://www.newneogaf.com.

Any sale of Neogaf would almost certainly contain a non-compete disclosure that would last for a good number of years.

 

[coolasj19]

Any sale of Neogaf would almost certainly contain a non-compete disclosure that would last for a good number of years.

Are all of the current mods employees of NeoGAF? If I do say, it's the moderation that keeps the gears greased (which without the engine will explode). EviLore keeps the wheels turning. Point being, if it theoretically came to NewNeoGAF, would it succeed in at least similar fashion?

 

[Vibranium]

Huge respect as always EvilLore, all the ad money will keep you going anyways (and maybe even past that sum). Good luck with the continued travels!

Imagine if EA bought GAF and threw it into Origin....*shudder*

 

[Mascot]

What's the correct way to pronounce 'EviLore'?

No disrespect to my fellow GAFers, but I need to hear this direct from the source.

 

[Aquamarine]

Are all of the current mods employees of NeoGAF? If I do say, it's the moderation that keeps the gears greased (which without the engine will explode). EviLore keeps the wheels turning. Point being, if it theoretically came to NewNeoGAF, would it succeed in at least similar fashion?

Modding is a volunteer position.

 

[JordanN]

Don't forget Evilore controls Gaf Gold.

Corporations aren't interested in the site, but the secret membership.

 

[Usobuko]

Offered double since

We are all going to get a cut, ain't we.

 

[Aquamarine]

We are all going to get a cut, ain't we.

$10 million offer / 132,026 members = $75.74 to each member


I know I'd like an extra $75.74.

 

[Vermillion]

Came here to post this.

Money is the Mc-mansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after 10 years. Power is the old stone building that stands for centuries.

Please. You know what I like about money? I can stack it on a table, like this one. I can measure it with a yardstick. I can see it, smell it, buy things with it - houses, cars, clothes. Things that are real.

 

[odhiex]

Banner ad revenue continues to shrink and EviLore refuses to incorporate intrusive, excessive advertising into GAF

Costs of maintaining NeoGAF are rising because it continues to surge with popularity


Yeah no.

But.. dat GAF GOLD??

 

[EulaCapra]

Holy crap. GAF should whore their bodies as thanks.

 

[AmanoBuff]

Wouldn't it be too risky to buy GAF? I mean, it's members are not employees. So what would prevent us from just migrating to another forum or from creating a new one?

Honest question.

 

[Qvoth]

10 million for gaf? i wonder what kind of $ is being offered to moot then

 

[AmanoBuff]

$10 million offer / 132,026 members = $75.74 to each member


I know I'd like an extra $75.74.

I'm almost sure he is already being offered (and rejecting) those kinds of offers.

The questions is, what happens when Google offers a couple of BILLIONS?

 

[shira]

Offered double since

Take it man. Cant even get into E3 no more.

 

[Aquamarine]

Wouldn't it be too risky to buy GAF? I mean, it's members are not employees. So what would prevent us from just migrating to another forum or from creating a new one?

Honest question.

Same reason that Facebook wanted to buy Instagram for billions....it's a community.

I'm sure any new owner of GAF would walk in (hell, they may even keep EviLore as the guy in charge) and proclaim that absolutely nothing will change.

Of course things inevitably would, but I'm sure that GAF makes money from ad revenue as-is, it's continually growing so it has good investment potential (a clearly demonstrated $5 million -> $10 million increase in valuation from interested parties shows this), and it has quite the reputation.

Its unique attributes (strict moderation, exclusive-club-esque limited approval of new members, a lot of game developers / people in games media who contribute to the site, etc.) really add to its allure.

 

[ajb1888]

Offered double since

I can't stop smiling

 

[ArchedThunder]

What Sentai series is this from?

 

[JordanN]

10 million for gaf? i wonder what kind of $ is being offered to moot then

Buying 4chan would be more trouble than it's worth.

"You want it? Here, take it off my hands. But I warn you, the things you'll see will corrupt your mind forever".

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Who is going to be the next EviLore? I vote... me! I want to be rich.

For real tho, I wonder if he can start a new forum if he sells? With all his knowledge of running Gaf then being a competitor. Insider competitor laws? The contract? I don't know.

I'm assuming there would eventually be an influx of people souring the experience. IGN or whatever would love a forum of this level and they'd obviously want more users.

80% of the veterans using sold Neogaf and NNGAF would take things back to 2004/2005 and the forum was as good as ever then with top notch discussion. It's great today too.

There's also room for a #2 great gaming forum to compete, and the community here is what made it.

 

[JLeack]

I do not get the companies behind this. GAF's popularity comes from its independance, the minute is bought the minute the community disintegrates and looks somewhere else, you would be buying a very expensive empty box.

I feel I'm missing something else, companies can't be that blind regarding just raw numbers right?

I'm almost sure that wouldn't happen. There would be losses, but likely some gains, too.

The fact of the matter is forums are a very easy and sustainable form of traffic. Any big site would be out of its mind not to want a big forum like GAF.

 

[Dalek]

Offered double since

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

How much was GameFAQs bought for then? $50M?!

 

[uncleniccius]

Banner ad revenue continues to shrink and EviLore refuses to incorporate intrusive, excessive advertising into GAF

Costs of maintaining NeoGAF are rising because it continues to surge with popularity


Yeah no.

He's never going to be a billionaire, but GAF doesn't need to pay writers like most content making sites, and a lot of members are constantly reading/refreshing so the volume of banner ads per viewer is likely much larger than most sites do to the dedicated nature of the community.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

If someone has $10M to spend though - why not build and market their own forum instead of buying one?

 

[AmanoBuff]

Same reason that Facebook wanted to buy Instagram for billions....it's a community.

I'm sure any new owner of GAF would walk in (hell, they may even keep EviLore as the guy in charge) and proclaim that absolutely nothing will change.

Of course things inevitably would, but I'm sure that GAF makes money from ad revenue as-is, it's continually growing so it has good investment potential (a clearly demonstrated $5 million -> $10 million increase in valuation from interested parties shows this), and it has quite the reputation.

Its unique attributes (strict moderation, exclusive-club-esque limited approval of new members, a lot of game developers / people in games media who contribute to the site, etc.) really add to its allure.

I get it. But GAF's members are a community far more tech-savvy and interconnected. I wouldn't be surprised if a GAF sale (regardless of empty promises of stability) causes a mass exodus.

 

[ArchedThunder]

If someone has $10M to spend though - why not build and market their own forum instead of buying one?

Because making your own doesn't mean it will be a success, buying GAF would give them a community right away.

 

[shira]

Because making your own doesn't mean it will be a success, buying GAF would give them a community right away.

Idk how many people would stay if it was xboxone presents GAF or CBSinteractiveGAF

 

[Pimpwerx]

The site is written a lot with the page hits it gets. He made the right choice. I'm sure he's made more than that off the site. PEACE.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Idk how many people would stay if it was xboxone presents GAF or CBSinteractiveGAF

"NeoGAF proudly supports the Xbox One, the all in one entertainment system from Microsoft!"