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On this date two years ago, Aziz Shavershian (Zyzz) died.
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Easy_Money
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It needs to be said that his death was a consequence of his extravagant lifestyle which included constant partying, alcohol and drugs. Add in steroids and a heart condition - it's a recipe for a tragedy.
People are quick to judge anyone using steroids and dismiss their success which is rather daft if you ask me.
EDIT: Sorcery
People are quick to judge anyone using steroids and dismiss their success which is rather daft if you ask me.
EDIT: Sorcery
The Power Of Snap
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So this guy was a professional bodybuilder?
vas_a_morir
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Easy_Money
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vas_a_morir
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readLeader
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You mentioned partying, alcohol, drugs, steroids. What was his success?
Skinny Pete
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I don't get it either. Fuck this guy.
I refuse to believe he had an undiagnosed heart condition. His mom worked in cardiology at a hospital if I remember correctly.
It's a simple case of 2-3 steroid cycles a year since age 19, coupled with excessive partying using recreational drugs. I don't want to speak ill of the guy since he's passed away, but he's been taking a myriad of steroids since the start.
He was a friendly guy who made some trollish videos. In the end, it was all for naught as his life ended too early. RIP Aziz.
It's a simple case of 2-3 steroid cycles a year since age 19, coupled with excessive partying using recreational drugs. I don't want to speak ill of the guy since he's passed away, but he's been taking a myriad of steroids since the start.
He was a friendly guy who made some trollish videos. In the end, it was all for naught as his life ended too early. RIP Aziz.
Easy_Money
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Got his own supplement and clothing line by the time he was 22, how is that not a success?
I haven't seen that at all
This is silly. Being ripped (or good-looking in any sense) doesn't guarantee you any girl or a happy, fulfilling love life.
Skinny Nerd -> ripped hunk
Basically imagine if a guy from dating-age turned into this guy and was able to get any girl he wanted. That's why. People in the forums he visited saw themselves in him, and saw the potential they had. So he inspired many people to turn their life around. He was also a very positive dude and always believed in others. Everything was always possible and he never put people down.
It's pretty easy to see why really.
readLeader
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If you measure success in life by how much money you make, no matter what it costs you or what you do with your life, then you probably have to think he was successful. Judging from everything I've ever seen of that kid, he had poor character and died young at least in part because he ruined himself with drugs and juicing. I'd call that failure.
I think he wrote some FAQs on FFXI or something even as recent as a short time before his death.
His appeal comes from the fact he inspired a lot of kids younger than him. I used to post on BB.com when he started but I stopped by the time he became the sensation he did. A lot of younger kids saw how he went from skinny gamer nerd with no girls, to chiseled stud who claims to have a girl every night etc.
Went from this to
Ultimately it was all for waste. He could say anything about dying young, burning bright etc. But he never imagined dying at 22.
Went from this to
Ultimately it was all for waste. He could say anything about dying young, burning bright etc. But he never imagined dying at 22.
Host Samurai
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RIP Az. Where all gonna make it brah
Pop
Member
To who? You?
He has plenty of motivational speeches that he gave on the bb forums as well as on youtube. He would literally answer anyone who had questions on bb. He would hang out with random lifters if they so happened to be in the same area as the guy. Most people just see him as a roider but he was more than that.
Host Samurai
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His look
Hair
Personality
Music taste
His story
All make him a polorizing guy
Zyzz's quotes:
When asked about death:
"Everybody, one day will die, and be forgetton. Act and behave in a way that will make life interesting and fun, fuck a mundane predictable life working monday to friday with something you derive no pleasure from; just living life out till you grow old and wither away. Find a passion, form relationships, dont be afraid to get out there and fuck what everyone else thinks, trust me its alot more fun that way.
Dont ever pay people out or put people down. Instead just put yourself up and let the haters do their thing. Id rather be a person thats hated on, than a person that does the hating. A wise man one said...
Haters gonna hate!"
-Zyzz
He did things for the lulz but I always thought he was a cool dude
Easy_Money
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Although I probably can't change your stance, he also inspired thousand of people to start making changes in their lives. I just mentioned supplement and clothing deals because they are easy to measure.
As I've said, people are too quick to judge, but you're entitled to your own opinion.
readLeader
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Were any of those changes positive?
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Easy_Money
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He mostly inspired people to start weightlifting, so yes, I do believe those changes were positive (his impact can't be quantified so it's pretty much just my opinion).
For reference, visit the misc section of the bb.com forums, I'm sure it will provide many answers.
Host Samurai
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He's the highest ranked inspirational person on BB.com
Inspirational attitude, but it becomes tough for me to admire someone's physique when I learn they used steroids. I really wish there were more examples of "natural" bodybuilders getting attention. I see the bodies of steroid users and just think to myself, "Well, I guess that's not attainable unless I want to do drugs, too."
His appeal comes from the fact he inspired a lot of kids younger than him. I used to post on BB.com when he started but I stopped by the time he became the sensation he did. A lot of younger kids saw how he went from skinny gamer nerd with no girls, to chiseled stud who claims to have a girl every night etc.
Went from this to
Ultimately it was all for waste. He could say anything about dying young, burning bright etc. But he never imagined dying at 22.
Other than the douchie clothes, the guy looked way more healthy in the top picture than the bottom picture.
I like the guy because no women cared about him until he was bigger , after that he made certain women look stupid. Thats a revenge factor I'd love to have especially if I became rich. I want everybody to start liking me because of my status and them promptly tell them to fuck off.
Easy_Money
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TBH, his physique is easily attainable if you give yourself time (5-10 years depending on various factors).
Jeff Seid on the other hand (claiming natural) not so much. Same goes for BB pros and many fitness models.
Posted this before in another Zyzz thread. He was a true nerd at heart, one of us. He just got into bodybuilding because of his brother, and ended up becoming larger than life itself. Everybody who knew him says he was the most gentle, friendly person they've ever met. Zyzz was just a persona he put on to inspire other people.
His contributions are still up on Gamefaqs.com/Gamespot.com
http://www.gamefaqs.com/users/Sonic12040/contributions
His contributions are still up on Gamefaqs.com/Gamespot.com
http://www.gamefaqs.com/users/Sonic12040/contributions
Snkfanatic
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I thought I read his family had a history of heart conditions. I could be wrong but just throwing that out there. Regardless I agree that the use of steroids can be very dangerous.
Well if he inspired nerds to not be self loathing and conceited I guess he can't be that bad. I just find it weird that a guy who died so young due (partially at least) to drug consumption is seen as a role model.
That's such a sad life goal...
That's such a sad life goal...
Agreed. There are some YouTube celebrities who train naturally but none have the following that zyzz does.
He died because he was an irresponsible fool who abused PEDs. He also couldn't lift for shit. Why do we celebrate the life of someone like this and why do people look to him as a hero I will never understand.
He did give me a good dose of comedy because of his idiocy though so that's something
He did give me a good dose of comedy because of his idiocy though so that's something
ViewtifulJC
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Time for Imm0rt4l to blow up with some YouTube videos
Not a life goal , but its just something that would make me feel good. Doesn't have to happen though , there are just people out there that have wronged me that I would like to get back. I just don't necessarily think about it all the time though.
HalfBakedProphet
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This sounds great, but I'm not sure he actually followed his own advice. He's a giant douchenozzle to people in some of his videos
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