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One thing about Shane B. from 1up / EGM

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Piper Az said:
A lot of folks have noticed how Shane from 1up / EGM come across as a Sony enthusiast and Xbox downer (when it comes to PS3 / Xbox 360 issues; let's ignore Nintendo here). My feeling applies to all gamers who are considered so called "fanboys", but it is more relevent to an editor in a gaming industry like Shane himself. If he considers himself as a gamer and loves to play videogames, how can he be so negative about one console (the 360) while so enthralled about most of the games released or to be released for the PS3? I know I am making a generalization since there's got to be a game or two that Shane enjoys on the 360 (or is there?), but listening to him week in and week out on podcasts just makes me scratch my head thinking, is this guy for real? The latest example came up during 1upYours, where he was just so down on JRPGS and others for the 360, while being pretty upbeat about games for the PS3.

Does anyone know whether he enjoys any game made specifically for the Xbox 360? He seems to be in love with GT5 for the PS3; if so, does he at least play Forza 2? Halo 3 may not matter since he seems to dislike FPS.
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wtf dude,almost everyone on 1up are nintendo/ms fanboys and ppl still are whining about shane?
 
Darkpen said:
Milky's a hipster, dude, totally not a representative of the Japanese game market, especially when Japanese game market = side scrolling shooters, RPGs, and Castlevania; that's the realm best represented by weeaboo D:
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Awntawn said:
Heavenly sword is not a bad game. There's a big perception out there as if it's a bomb disappointment like LAIR because IGN gave it a 7 at the same time LAIR's getting mediocre scores everywhere, erase that from your thoughts please. HS has a critical reception of above 80% on average, and is a very good game with only slight shortcomings to prevent it from becoming great.

Going to set the public perception straight one person at a time if necessary. You're the first ;o
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I've already finished it. Read my thoughts in the HS thread. Pt was that Shane is one of the few that would consider HS and Motorstorm to be AAA titles. There's little evidence of Hsu rating hyped 360 games higher than the average reviewer.
 
Zer0 said:
wtf dude,almost everyone on 1up are nintendo/ms fanboys and ppl still are whining about shane?
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who`s is the nintendo fanboy at 1up ? Can`t figure him out....
 
sakuragi said:
I asked the same question everytime :lol :lol :lol

Maybe because its okay for them to be an Xbox fanboy but not a Sony fanboy? Why not make a thread about the Nintendo fanbboy Jeremy perish or the PC fanboy Jeff. Or about the two ex 1up employee then went to work for Microsoft. One of them even constantly overrates Xbox games in his reviews. I hate this double standards.
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Exactly. Luke and Che are laughing right now while wearing their MS hats.

Didn't we have a thread exactly like this? Saying that Shane shouldn't be a journalist because he's so biased? Ridiculous.
 
Z3F said:
I've already finished it. Read my thoughts in the HS thread. Pt was that Shane is one of the few that would consider HS and Motorstorm to be AAA titles. There's little evidence of Hsu rating hyped 360 games higher than the average reviewer.
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Right. But what you were talking about was him giving it a 9 review, which wasn't unreasonable at all ;o
 
Whats to discuss here? Shane clearly has a Sony bias... just like every other editor on 1up or EGM.

Its what makes 1up yours and the 1up show so awesome.
 
Awntawn said:
Right. But what you were talking about was him giving it a 9 review, which wasn't unreasonable at all ;o
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It has nothing to do whether that review was reasonable or not. I don't think HS is a good game, much less AAA but that's not my point. Someone said that Dan Hsu is the equivalent of Shane but that's simply false. Shane rates PS3 games higher than other reviewers. Hsu doesn't rate 360 games higher than other reviewers. Therefore, Dan Hsu is not the 360's equivalent of Shane.
 
Z3F said:
That's not fair to Dan at all. His scores for many overly hyped 360 games are the same as most reviewers for gamerankings. Shane, OTOH, are one of the few who gave 9s to Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword .
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and che gives pdz a 9..so what?
 
The dangerous thing about game journalists being somewhat "console biased" is that it causes to them to lose credibility, esp when it comes to reviews. It's one thing to favoring a one or two genre or being an expert on a centain type of games...it's another to be biased against a console (e.g. both PS3 and 360 have good number of games on all categories). Most GAFfers know a lot of the reviewers in the industry and may read their reviews, previews, opionions with some grain of salt; however, most simply would rely on them blindedly. For example, I know nothing about the videogame reviewer at USATODAY, so I read his reviews with no second thoughts (he may not be an videogame expert/junkie like Shane, but at least he can be considered as plain trustworthy).
 
I guess its because its so extreme... honestly I want a show that has a guy like shane Sony fanboy, a xbox fanboy, Shu or Garnett, and a Nintendo fanboy, Parish, oh and PC Shawn. You combine those guys and we have a bad ass show... oh and someone who floats from side to side, John.

I always think its funny how Shane is so amazed with GT5 and he doesnt even really like racing games all that much, simulation style at least. His review of the X360 VF5 will most likely be a 9 since it was already released on the PS3:lol :lol Oh and because online will lag.
 
Who gives a damn? It's just some guy on some site among hundreds of others.
 
I don't this guy Shane all that well but I sure would like to know what's with this mangod thing.

Game "journalists" becoming superstars?!I'm glad I don't don't even think about names when reading reviews (except maybe Torres from Gamespot since he seems quite the PD fan :D ).
 
Shane is obviously sony biased like crazy which has been evident in many podcasts and many 1upshows. He's a fanboy and he shows his true colors. at least he doesn't mask it. Though I find shane really annoying, I respect that he is openly biased about his console/company of choice and isn't one of those "Stealth trolls"

anyways..

Mark mcdonald > all
 
There are different kinds of biases...some people are partial to certain platforms out of the ones that they own, but are still just as excited for a good game no matter what hardware it runs on.

Personally, I suspect if Bioshock were a PS3 game that he would have played it by now.
 
Bias is a noun, not an adjective.

Now that we've straightened that out, please continue.
 
Piper Az said:
The dangerous thing about game journalists being somewhat "console biased" is that it causes to them to lose credibility, esp when it comes to reviews. It's one thing to favoring a one or two genre or being an expert on a centain type of games...it's another to be biased against a console (e.g. both PS3 and 360 have good number of games on all categories). Most GAFfers know a lot of the reviewers in the industry and may read their reviews, previews, opionions with some grain of salt; however, most simply would rely on them blindedly. For example, I know nothing about the videogame reviewer at USATODAY, so I read his reviews with no second thoughts (he may not be an videogame expert/junkie like Shane, but at least he can be considered as plain trustworthy).
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Or regurgitating and padding out a PR release from any given company/developer. I've seen loads of non specialist reviewers do this.

Is your problem that there might be one person from one media outlet which doesn't share your preferences in console manufactuer? Are people pro Wii or pro 360 similarly tainted in your eyes?

Piper Az said:
The dangerous thing...
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Serious business.
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
There are different kinds of biases...some people are partial to certain platforms out of the ones that they own, but are still just as excited for a good game no matter what hardware it runs on.

Personally, I suspect if Bioshock were a PS3 game that he would have played it by now.
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Yeah, it's weird that the executive editor of a multiplatform mag like EGM hasn't given one of the main GOTY contenders a try.
 
aidan said:
Bias is a noun, not an adjective.

Now that we've straightened that out, please continue.
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Main Entry: bias
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): bi·ased or bi·assed; bi·as·ing or bi·as·sing
1 : to give a settled and often prejudiced outlook to <his background biases him against foreigners>
2 : to apply a slight negative or positive voltage to (as a transistor)

:D
 
If he considers himself as a gamer and loves to play videogames, how can he be so negative about one console (the 360) while so enthralled about most of the games released or to be released for the PS3?
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Swap '360' and 'PS3' and you could make a thread about Shoe.
 
Piper Az said:
The dangerous thing about game journalists being somewhat "console biased" is that it causes to them to lose credibility, esp when it comes to reviews. It's one thing to favoring a one or two genre or being an expert on a centain type of games...it's another to be biased against a console (e.g. both PS3 and 360 have good number of games on all categories). Most GAFfers know a lot of the reviewers in the industry and may read their reviews, previews, opionions with some grain of salt; however, most simply would rely on them blindedly. For example, I know nothing about the videogame reviewer at USATODAY, so I read his reviews with no second thoughts (he may not be an videogame expert/junkie like Shane, but at least he can be considered as plain trustworthy).
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nobody at 1up has the sort of credibility you expect of shane.
 
Piper Az said:
The dangerous thing about game journalists being somewhat "console biased" is that it causes to them to lose credibility, esp when it comes to reviews. It's one thing to favoring a one or two genre or being an expert on a centain type of games...it's another to be biased against a console (e.g. both PS3 and 360 have good number of games on all categories). Most GAFfers know a lot of the reviewers in the industry and may read their reviews, previews, opionions with some grain of salt; however, most simply would rely on them blindedly. For example, I know nothing about the videogame reviewer at USATODAY, so I read his reviews with no second thoughts (he may not be an videogame expert/junkie like Shane, but at least he can be considered as plain trustworthy).
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and? there is A TON of game reviewers who are TOTALLY biased towards anything nintendo.they grow with the nes and i dont give a shit,this stuff its everywhere,sports journalists,music,cinema critics who hate/praise directos etc etc

and i still dont get ur post,ps3 is getting flak everywhere from everyone and u still make a post about shane?
 
Piper Az said:
Main Entry: bias
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): bi·ased or bi·assed; bi·as·ing or bi·as·sing
1 : to give a settled and often prejudiced outlook to <his background biases him against foreigners>
2 : to apply a slight negative or positive voltage to (as a transistor)

:D
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owned

dfyb said:
nobody at 1up has the sort of credibility you expect of shane.
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mark mcdonald
 
Fixed2BeBroken said:
it's an FPS, and apparently he doesn't like FPS.....except for Killzone 2.
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What did he say about killzone 2 aside from the graphics is awesome? isn't that what everyone said except for 1 1up editor how thinks gears like better :lol
 
I wonder if Shane has played BioShock yet. If it was on PS3 he would have that's for sure. Even with his dislike for FPS.
 
Zer0 said:
and? there is A TON of game reviewers who are TOTALLY biased towards anything nintendo.they grow with the nes and i dont give a shit,this stuff its everywhere,sports journalists,music,cinema critics who hate/praise directos etc etc

and i still dont get ur post,ps3 is getting flak everywhere from everyone and u still make a post about shane?
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Why are you so biased against grammar and spelling?
 
Voltron64 said:
I wonder if Shane has played BioShock yet. If it was on PS3 he would have that's for sure. Even with his dislike for FPS.
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you guys are really taking this far. he even talked about barely playing warhawk on the last podcast and it's not like he talks about playing resistance often.
 
Piper Az said:
Main Entry: bias
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): bi·ased or bi·assed; bi·as·ing or bi·as·sing
1 : to give a settled and often prejudiced outlook to <his background biases him against foreigners>
2 : to apply a slight negative or positive voltage to (as a transistor)

:D
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bi·as /&#712;ba&#618;&#601;s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[bahy-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, adjective, adverb, verb, bi·ased, bi·as·ing or (especially British) bi·assed, bi·as·sing.
–noun
1. an oblique or diagonal line of direction, esp. across a woven fabric.
2. a particular tendency or inclination, esp. one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice.
3. Statistics. a systematic as opposed to a random distortion of a statistic as a result of sampling procedure.
4. Lawn Bowling.
a. a slight bulge or greater weight on one side of the ball or bowl.
b. the curved course made by such a ball when rolled.
5. Electronics. the application of a steady voltage or current to an active device, as a diode or transistor, to produce a desired mode of operation.
6. a high-frequency alternating current applied to the recording head of a tape recorder during recording in order to reduce distortion.
–adjective
7. cut, set, folded, etc., diagonally: This material requires a bias cut.
–adverb
8. in a diagonal manner; obliquely; slantingly: to cut material bias.
–verb (used with object)
9. to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, esp. unfairly: a tearful plea designed to bias the jury.
10. Electronics. to apply a steady voltage or current to (the input of an active device).
—Idiom
11. on the bias,
a. in the diagonal direction of the cloth.
b. out of line; slanting.
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The way the word "Bias" is being used in this thread is to imply that Shane (and other members of the Ziff Gaming Division) are prejudiced towards one gaming system or another. Bias, when used as a verb, is the act of trying to instill upon another person a bais about a particular subject.

"a tearful plea designed to bias the jury."
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In the case of Shane and the other 1uppers, people should be complaining that they have a bias, rather than that they are biased.
 
aidan said:
The way the word "Bias" is being used in this thread is to imply that Shane (and other members of the Ziff Gaming Division) are prejudiced towards one gaming system or another. Bias, when used as a verb, is the act of trying to instill upon another person a bais about a particular subject.



In the case of Shane and the other 1uppers, people should be complaining that they have a bias, rather than that they are biased.
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its the internets....wtf
 
As long as we're attacking random 1up-ers, or their alums, here's one I wanted to get off my chest. When Luke came back for that special show, I realized how glad I am that he's gone. Laughing at your own jokes is obnoxious, as is sucking on a lollipop [it's what it sounded like on the audio; whatever it was, it was disgusting] into a microphone. I cheered a little inside when John called him for pushing the "Bungie property Halo 3" so blatantly. That had gotten a little disgusting too.

Sometimes Shane's cheerleading for the PS3 gets old. But I'm kind of okay with it now, because 1) he knows so much goddamn stuff about gaming in general, 2) he does a really good job of conveying his excitement for 'lost classics' and current hidden gems, and 3) the PS3 is fast on its way to becoming the gamers-only, "hardcore" console, so it's not the same as cheerleading for the "everyman" consoles such as PS2 or Wii.

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chespace said:
You guys are seriously fucking creepy.
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I creep with pride, good sir.

Edit 2: What is the actual Shane B. ghost account on NeoGAF is actually the OP right here? Hmm?
 
Zer0 said:
and? there is A TON of game reviewers who are TOTALLY biased towards anything nintendo.they grow with the nes and i dont give a shit,this stuff its everywhere,sports journalists,music,cinema critics who hate/praise directos etc etc

and i still dont get ur post,ps3 is getting flak everywhere from everyone and u still make a post about shane?
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So, for example, you would be perfectly fine with having film reviewers who only praise movies from a certain studio? It's like having Roger Ebert loving most movies specifically from Paramount but being negative others.

cilonen said:
Serious business.
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If I could careless, at least I've listened to 1up folks discussing about how gaming industry in general is not being accepted as a serious business...maybe the "gaming journalism" needs to revamp how it does it business as well.
 
Piper Az said:
So, for example, you would be perfectly fine with having film reviewers who only praise movies from a certain studio? It's like having Roger Ebert loving most movies specifically from Paramount but being negative others.
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with most of the backlash you're recieving, people are basically saying there's no reason to single shane out. you are still acting like shane is alone in having a bias, when really, everyone in that office has a hardware bias. other offices aren't really going to be that different, either.
 
bran said:
Shane made the observation that a lot of American gamers feel that the XBOX360 "Is the American console, this is our thing. That Halo is "our" game, this is how we fend off against Asian/European games."
I think you are feeling defensive about "your" console" too
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I actually had one group of Americans tell me to fuck off and make my own console because the Xbox is America's.
 
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