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prolly would have been the last ep i listened to if this weren't the caseFartOfWar said:Note: This entire episode is on games and gaming. We're back in the game I guess?
prolly would have been the last ep i listened to if this weren't the caseFartOfWar said:Note: This entire episode is on games and gaming. We're back in the game I guess?
bandresen said:I feel like such a fanboy for writing this, but here it goes: Someone tell me if that quote by Shawn is in jest:
(They are talking about the PS3 and the fanboys that need to validate their system. Specifically there are not enough 10/10's on the system versus the 360. Time mark: 25:30)
"And It has been in question for a long time, I know a lot of studios sort of have been waiting to decide whether or not they want to make their games for that platform. When it's a multiplatform thing, they've been waiting for a price drop and it has been in such a situation."
If that was serious, who were those studios? I remember Activision dude saying such a thing and he got universally ridiculed for it because he would be locking himself out of an install base which is 85-90% of its main competitor.
(Global numbers, of course.)
Or maybe an example of a company that pulled through with such a thing?
For me the above reason is completely ludicrous. I understand technical reasons and porting because it would add extra cost and the PS3 is shitty to program for. But because the PS3 is too expensive? Why would they be concerned, they have the numbers how many have been sold. They know what they lock themselves out of.
And a small note about the Uncharted 2 game review. I don't mind a 4.5/5.0 because I understand that Anthony and Rory are not the same person. But other reviews site operate under the single voice system. Gametrailers is notable because they omit the writer's name, which leaves them wide open to be compared to each other. And an ex-Gamespot reviewer has recently said on the Bombcast that everyone on the staff reads the review and gives input and that makes Gamespot it a single voice example too.
FartOfWar said:Here's some of my recent reading:
Rubicon
The Brain that Changes Itself
The Nine
Sway
The Forever War
The Paradox of Choice
How We Decide
Drunkard's Walk
The Chris Farley Show: A Biography in Three Acts
Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex
The Female Brain
Funchameleon said:http://twitter.com/ShawnElliott/status/5896786517
"@Tarmanydyn Out of the Game will return, however, I'm no longer able to discuss the gaming industry."
Not immediately. What happened with Shawn anyway?
Funchameleon said:http://twitter.com/ShawnElliott/status/5896786517
"@Tarmanydyn Out of the Game will return, however, I'm no longer able to discuss the gaming industry."
Not immediately. What happened with Shawn anyway?
I figured this might be the case, considering it happened in the last episode.the_concierge said:I wonder if this has anything to do with Shawn's in depth questioning of the whole MusicHub / music.ign.com editorial controversy that occurred recently? Because if so, that would be a shame.
Really? So, it's Take-Two/2K Boston not wanting to piss off IGN, as I can't imagine they care what Activision thinkthe_concierge said:I wonder if this has anything to do with Shawn's in depth questioning of the whole MusicHub / music.ign.com editorial controversy that occurred recently? Because if so, that would be a shame.
Calcaneus said:Or, it could just be a joke?
Seems unlikely to be a joke considering it was a statement made in reply to someone on Twitter. If it was a joke, he'd more likely try to rope people in by making it public. Plus I don't think it's really something worth joking about.Calcaneus said:Or, it could just be a joke?
Funchameleon said:http://twitter.com/ShawnElliott/status/5896786517
"@Tarmanydyn Out of the Game will return, however, I'm no longer able to discuss the gaming industry."
Not immediately. What happened with Shawn anyway?
Maybe he's not prohibited from anything, but chose this stance for some reason. Who knows, right?neptunes said:Is he apart of the marketing department at 2k? Why is he prohibited from providing his own opinions on certain aspects of the game industry.
wmat said:The consensus in the industry generally is that you don't talk shit about your competitors, just like it is in any other field. The few times it happens, the people involved somewhen start to see that it's really not good for the atmosphere and stuff, so they usually decide to drop it.
He can do whatever the fuck he wants, I guessOmniAvenger said:Has anyone let Randy Pitchford in on this industry secret?
Curufinwe said:Heads of studios must get more leeway than fairly new employees.
IGN isn't a competitor though...wmat said:Maybe he's not prohibited from anything, but chose this stance for some reason. Who knows, right?
The consensus in the industry generally is that you don't talk shit about your competitors, just like it is in any other field. The few times it happens, the people involved somewhen start to see that it's really not good for the atmosphere and stuff, so they usually decide to drop it.
Happened a few times before.
Can't say I see much shit-talking by Shawn in the last few months though, to be honest. Maybe he went a bit out of his way with the Musi Chub thing, yeah.. But there was a point to it.
Anyway, it's not really our concern, right?
Who knows whether that's the incident he's indirectly referring to?Firestorm said:IGN isn't a competitor though...
Leave Britney alone :lolRez said:the people demand answers, Elliott!
=p
Russian Steve said:Gerstmann-gate 2.0?
Any info reguarding the next episode?
he wasnt pompous. i greatly appreciated him and jeff green calling out bullshit when they saw it. looks like that won't happen anymore.Calcaneus said:Sometimes I get the impression that Shawn is embarrassed about video game culture and the fact that he works at a gaming studio
I think he secretly wishes he worked in a different field of some sort...yet he works at 2k Boston(which is not bad)
I remember him talking about going to graduate school or something like that
This might be the reason for his constant greifing and his sometimes pompous attitude
throwback yall
To be fair, it's not really clear who they're trying to educate with the critique - the people who listen to their podcast probably aren't deceived by that marketing backflip in the first place, and the marketers already made their mind up. So it's really just ranting, if you think about it.DevelopmentArrested said:he wasnt pompous. i greatly appreciated him and jeff green calling out bullshit when they saw it. looks like that won't happen anymore.
Calcaneus said:Sometimes I get the impression that Shawn is embarrassed about video game culture and the fact that he works at a gaming studio
I think he secretly wishes he worked in a different field of some sort...yet he works at 2k Boston(which is not bad)
I remember him talking about going to graduate school or something like that
This might be the reason for his constant greifing and his sometimes pompous attitude
throwback yall
I love what they do, I was just referencing/quoting an old creepy post about him.DevelopmentArrested said:he wasnt pompous. i greatly appreciated him and jeff green calling out bullshit when they saw it. looks like that won't happen anymore.
Doesn't look interesting; passBroseybrose said:
He's too busy crying in the corner along with Brad Wardell about the Alienware/Steam announcement.OmniAvenger said:Has anyone let Randy Pitchford in on this industry secret?
How could you pass up like the best produced podcast I know?wmat said:Doesn't look interesting; pass
This!Guv_Bubbs said:How could you pass up like the best produced podcast I know?
Ahhh No Taste
this guywmat said:Doesn't look interesting; pass
I know right?Novella said:this guy
Probably just won't discuss if he's on.stuburns said:I really hope whatever the deal is it's temporary. I don't think what he said was especially bad, it's not like he trashed a 2K game, everyone knows IGN is wank at best, it's hardly an out there criticism. Although it did seem a little like a witch hunt.
If it is true I wonder if they'll just never discuss games or he just won't join in. It could extend to stupid things like IPs relating to games. I wonder if he would be willing to comment on the BioShock movie for example.
Considering some of the things Levine has said on podcasts, I don't see why he'd be in trouble.