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Overwatch |OT8| Our love will last Pharah-ver
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Soldier is still picked a lot, but yeah it's not a huge spike really compared to Tracer/Genji/McCree roaming around. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at the highest pickrate for DPS but still be around the same tier as the other popular picks. The prediction that his usage rate would drop a bit with tanks getting nerfed turned out to be true.
Dude is still a solo q monster though.
Ah, I don't have a problem with him. I was just thinking that he always get's outranged by other DPS characters.
Karsticles
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This chart is way better than mine - thank you!
Things that surprised me:
Genji gets MORE common as you get to higher levels.
Soldier 76, too.
RIPer.
Tracer only exists in very high level play - weird.
Everyone knows Bastion sucks, at all levels.
Hanzo is a LIE.
Everyone knows Reinhardt is essential.
Roadhog gets MORE common as you get higher? He's in like 100% of my games in silver.
Why is Lucio less common as you get higher?
What time is usually announcement time?
This chart is way better than mine - thank you!
Things that surprised me:
Genji gets MORE common as you get to higher levels.
Soldier 76, too.
RIPer.
Tracer only exists in very high level play - weird.
Everyone knows Bastion sucks, at all levels.
Hanzo is a LIE.
Everyone knows Reinhardt is essential.
Roadhog gets MORE common as you get higher? He's in like 100% of my games in silver.
Why is Lucio less common as you get higher?
All healers are losing to Ana in higher tiers. Either the second heal is more split between Zen and Lucio then before or High tier players only use one healer (Ana)?
Woo-Fu
Banned
Too easy to kill, too hard to focus any hero that isn't standing right in front of him. His fatal flaw is that he is incapable of instantly finishing somebody almost already dead unless they're very close to him. Whereas anybody with hitscan and the range can finish people with just a click.
Junkrat is primarily spread damage and what is spread damage great for in Overwatch? Charging up the ults of your healers and making sure the enemy Zarya reaches full charge.
He also has arguably the worst ult in the game.
I mean I love playing Junkrat and I think he can fit in to some comps on some sides but in general there is usually/always a better hero to pick.
About the only buff I'd give him is perhaps a tiny bit of shield. His problem isn't really a matter of balance as it is utility and applicability to how the primary modes of this game are played. He's a square peg.
Woo-Fu
Banned
This chart is way better than mine - thank you!
Things that surprised me:
Genji gets MORE common as you get to higher levels.
Soldier 76, too.
RIPer.
Tracer only exists in very high level play - weird.
Everyone knows Bastion sucks, at all levels.
Hanzo is a LIE.
Everyone knows Reinhardt is essential.
Roadhog gets MORE common as you get higher? He's in like 100% of my games in silver.
Why is Lucio less common as you get higher?
Genji is very high skill-cap and when you hit that skill cap you have perhaps the best ult in the game for wiping the enemy team, plus it combos very well with Ana's Nanoboost. That is why he is so common at the highest tier.
Soldier brings the most utility and the most "stickyness" of any of the DPS heroes and has a pretty good ult while not being near as hard to play effectively as any of the other DPS classes.
Lucio is less common because a Zen at that tier gets more done, particularly in a tank-heavy meta and because Ana is practically mandatory. Ana + Zen simply kills tanks faster thanks to discord orb and Zenyatta behing half dps class himself. Transcendence isn't quite as good Lucio's ult but is good enough. All that leaves for Lucio is speed boost, which while useful rarely is the keystone.
finalflame
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Shake Appeal
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I'm finally getting into Winston. Did a couple of QP games yesterday where people raged in chat and told me to stop focusing them.
When you get the hang of it Winston is suuuuuuper fun to play.
He's very good in QP too since people pick widow all the fucking time.
I do find he's one of the characters that gets obliterated by a good amount of counter characters though to the point where it forces a swap. Like even if it's just someone on bastion, NOPE.
Renegades vs Complexity was TERRIBLE. Renegades literally threw the game multiple times. They should have one that 3-0, but Complexity got the reverse sweep.
- Not getting on the point, on Dorado they would have held NO QUESTION (this happened 3 times)
- Sypeh at one point, tried to get a Lucio off the cart by firing Zarya right-clicks around like a maniac, ended up doing most of the damage to himself and died to Lucio, and Joemeister solo pushed the cart in with 3 members of Renegades still up (HILARIOUS)
- Jer switched off Symmetra with 80% charge on tele because Nicholas attempted to spawn camp him as Widow, but he got pressured by the rest of RNG and backed out anyway
- Mangachu letting the "Hard carry DPS" go to his head, somehow thinks he can fly around as Pharah and take his Mercy on an adventure going back into spawns and killing Ana and the other Pharah to win the match, but in reality the rest of his team loses the fight on the ground because Mercy wasn't there to heal the others
- Running quad DPS and no tank LUL, that's even worse than running quad tank. Just looks like an uncoordinated mess, I have no idea why that's better than having Juvenile run Winston and going standard dive.
- Not getting on the point, on Dorado they would have held NO QUESTION (this happened 3 times)
- Sypeh at one point, tried to get a Lucio off the cart by firing Zarya right-clicks around like a maniac, ended up doing most of the damage to himself and died to Lucio, and Joemeister solo pushed the cart in with 3 members of Renegades still up (HILARIOUS)
- Jer switched off Symmetra with 80% charge on tele because Nicholas attempted to spawn camp him as Widow, but he got pressured by the rest of RNG and backed out anyway
- Mangachu letting the "Hard carry DPS" go to his head, somehow thinks he can fly around as Pharah and take his Mercy on an adventure going back into spawns and killing Ana and the other Pharah to win the match, but in reality the rest of his team loses the fight on the ground because Mercy wasn't there to heal the others
- Running quad DPS and no tank LUL, that's even worse than running quad tank. Just looks like an uncoordinated mess, I have no idea why that's better than having Juvenile run Winston and going standard dive.
Karsticles
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I really like Winston, but my experience with him in QP is something like this:
-Team is disorganized and scattered, so leaping in is suicide.
-Can't do anything from range while waiting for people to get it together.
-Damage is low when I do get in, so it takes a long time to kill the target. If it gets heals, I die.
-Team is disorganized and scattered, so leaping in is suicide.
-Can't do anything from range while waiting for people to get it together.
-Damage is low when I do get in, so it takes a long time to kill the target. If it gets heals, I die.
Woo-Fu
Banned
On the low damage thing you need to make sure you land your pounce on or very near to the target so you get that initial 50. 5 meter radius according to the wiki.
PalaceBrother
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I keep forgetting about this (I only really play him when he shows up in Mystery Heroes). Thanks!
Does his "Splashdown" voice line indicate that the damage was successful?
Nocturnowl
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Love me some Winston but it does feel like he has more hard and soft counters than he should.
Heck even the squishy fellows you're supposed to be picking on can jam you out, nothing like tickling a Hanzo for like a good 6 seconds and then getting one ridiculously high damaging scatter arrow to ruin everything.
Vault Dweller 111
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I think I'll just instalock Bastion for my placements. My guess is a large majority of console users don't know how good he's about to be.
TWrecks310
Banned
When it's after 12 EST and Blizzard still hasn't said anything about the new hero or comp season <<<<<<<<<
it'll be at 2 EST if the new hero is today
TWrecks310
Banned
But I'll be in class! NotLikeThis
(I'll be playing Horizon all day today anyway I just want to complain)
Not going to play for the first week.
you bastard.
Sleight of Jam
Banned
We're not going to get a new Hero today.
Is Season 4 delayed or is that a rumour going round?
Going around where? You're the first to post about a delay in this thread.
Yeah that's my plan too. Practice with him a bit in QP then duo queue with my brother for placements taking it in turns to play him with a pocket mercy
TWrecks310
Banned
I don't expect being able to play it today but I did think it would be announced today. It will likely still be announced later today though, or Blizzard would really be dragging this out longer than they should be.
veloxStrix
Banned
I can't wait until comp reopens. It'll be nice to play with people who aren't actually incapable of functioning.
are you on console? what was your previous rank?
Most people already have a hard time dealing with a good one, so I'm not looking forward to a buffed version.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
Same. QP is so much better when all those people are back in comp.
Didn't notice the Axiom logo.
Continuity-wise, I don't see why Efi would create that omnic. The events are happening in present day in Overwatch (I assume?) and this omnic is either a mascot for Axiom or an omnic fashion model.
I think it can still be possible, but it looks kinda dim at this point. Shame, because I really like that design too, hopefully if that omnic is like Shrike for Ana we get a skin resembling that.
Vault Dweller 111
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PlayOverwatch twitter account is in overdrive right now. Nothing really juicy except that it's definitely coming at 4pst and there will be an update along with it. Didn't say no to there being different rewards this season either (didn't say 'yes' though.)
Didn't notice the Axiom logo.
She's using the Axiom voice processor, so I assume that the Axiom robot is part of her inspiration.
Don't think it's that exact omnic though. She wouldn't build a copy of an existing fashion robot.
I do wonder how much that particular robot was modeled after a night or blood elf from WoW. The head and ear shape just really look quite similar. Even the way he's standing, even though I can't see his legs is making me think of a NE or BE.
I just spent my CP at the end of season 3
welp. Sounds like there might be new ones then.I just spent my CP at the end of season 3
Lucky I saved mine
TheLetdown
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I'll pocket Ana you.
Spam voice lines the entire time that I'm not healing for maximum effect.
Vault Dweller 111
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Horizon is a really cool new game. I was very impressed in my few hours last night. But here I am the next day refreshing an OT and a twitter account for a game that came out almost a year ago, just because a new season of comp is starting.
This game won't let go.
This game won't let go.
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