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[m.i.s.]

If the 3DS fell flat on its face I don't expect the NGP to do any better.

I would respectfully disagree. I think the Japanese, in particular, are just waiting for such a device because it gives full dual analog control on the go. If Monster Hunter comes out for this thing and if any money hats are involved on Sony's part, Nintendo are in BIG trouble.

The thing with the 3DS is that the key differentiating feature - the 3D effect without glasses - just hasn't been the draw that Nintendo envisaged.

 

[radioheadrule83]

Blame Apple more like, seriously, kids are more interested in iTouch's and iPhones these days not the 3ds, the 3ds is complete fail imo, awful design, expensive system/games, terrible battery life, practically non existent multi-media features, and also ok you've got a nub/slider now but then your back to the same problem the PSP had if you want to play any serious games on the system.

Would a second analog serve any significant purpose out of dudebro shooters?
Even then the touch screen can be used for aiming as per MPH and GoldenEye etc on DS.

Its a £200 handheld, its 2011, the tail end of a recession, its April, the start of British Summertime, the big guns are yet to release and its waiting for a May update to recieve an upgrade to functionality. In spite of that, its still done quite well tbh. Its facing more competition (competition with other Nintendo products too), and it's still pulled off one of the best handheld launches in terms of figures.. 100,000 were in the initial shipment to the UK and 98% of those were pre-sold to customers, it's been ticking on fine considering the circumstances I mentioned. I think their biggest problem here will be the same as in the US, as evidenced in the recent NPD figures, where the original Nintendo DS is still kicking ass... they need to wind that down if they want to move people on. Unless of course, they want to take a Sony-esque strategy and have them co-exist for a while. The fact the software isn't charting on the UK chart is because it has a new userbase that is a fraction of its competitors. Give it time, it'll come good.

 

[m.i.s.]

Would a second analog serve any significant purpose out of dudebro shooters?
Even then the touch screen can be used for aiming as per MPH and GoldenEye etc on DS.

Its a £200 handheld, its 2011, the tail end of a recession, its April, the start of British Summertime, the big guns are yet to release and its waiting for a May update to recieve an upgrade to functionality. In spite of that, its still done quite well tbh. Its facing more competition (competition with other Nintendo products too), and it's still pulled off one of the best handheld launches in terms of figures.. 100,000 were in the initial shipment to the UK and 98% of those were pre-sold to customers, it's been ticking on fine considering the circumstances I mentioned. I think their biggest problem here will be the same as in the US, as evidenced in the recent NPD figures, where the original Nintendo DS is still kicking ass... they need to wind that down if they want to move people on. Unless of course, they want to take a Sony-esque strategy and have them co-exist for a while. The fact the software isn't charting on the UK chart is because it has a new userbase that is a fraction of its competitors. Give it time, it'll come good.

There were 140,000 pre-orders in the UK and 113,000 sold in (two days). So Nintendo did slightly better than the 185,000 PSP's sold in the UK in four days. The previous record holder.

But then again, the previous pre-order record holder was the PS3. ie initial sales mean very little in the grand sheme of things. Consoles and handhelds almost always do good to decent numbers at launch.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Multiplatform splits. Random question, Wii used to be a dominant Tiger Woods SKU, why is it doing so poorly now?

PS3 version has Move support now...that's my guess.

 

[Igor Antunov]

It cute that were already delegating the most succesfful nintendo worlwide handheld launch to doom and gloom territory.

Such is the life of a sales whore.

 

[Mafro]

I would respectfully disagree. I think the Japanese, in particular, are just waiting for such a device because it gives full dual analog control on the go. If Monster Hunter comes out for this thing and if any money hats are involved on Sony's part, Nintendo are in BIG trouble.

Nonsense. They didn't seem to have any problem with Monster Hunter on PSP with one analogue.

 

[Kyoufu]

It cute that were already delegating the most succesfful nintendo worlwide handheld launch to doom and gloom territory.

Such is the life of a sales whore.

Launch success stories don't mean shit in the long run. 3DS could go either way.

Nonsense. They didn't seem to have any problem with Monster Hunter on PSP with one analogue.

The difference is, MonHun has been shown on the NGP, not the 3DS. Fans are expecting it on NGP.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

It cute that were already delegating the most succesfful nintendo worlwide handheld launch to doom and gloom territory.

Such is the life of a sales whore.

By what metric is the launch better than the GBA?

 

[faridmon]

The DS had better marketing when it came out. Remember Touching is good ads? I say that was way better than ads that have people see look at the screen and say ''that's totally 3D'' way to miss the point.

Same here. Pretty much anyone thinks it's just a new DS and they already have one. They do have it on display on most stores though, and to my surprise, the 3D slider was all the way down on 2 of them...

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They want to preserve the Battery

 

[Dabanton]

What's games are up next for the 3DS?

 

[test_account]

What's games are up next for the 3DS?

Here is a list:

http://www.tothegame.com/gamebrowse...3ds&category=0&status=all&territory=eu&page=1

 

[Vagabundo]

So 200k hardware sold. Yet no Streetfighter in the top 40. Makes no sense. What the hell are people playing this thing?

There is no way that people didn't buy a game with it. Since Streetfighter is the number one game in the 3ds chart, let assume 50k-100k during the launch week. Is the threshold for the top 40 higher than 50-100k? I don't think so. I believe that the lowest entries there are sub 10k usually.

Something screwy is going on here.

 

[Kyoufu]

So 200k hardware sold. Yet no Streetfighter in the top 40. Makes no sense. What the hell are people playing this thing?

There is no way that people didn't buy a game with it. Since Streetfighter is the no.1 dame in the 3ds chart, let assume 50k-100k during the launch week. Is the threshold for the top 40 higher than 50-100k? I don't think so. I believe that the lowest entries there are sub 10k usually.

Something screwy is going on here.

Probably playing DS games like Pokemon on it.

 

[radioheadrule83]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Street Fighter was 90k sold.. or was that NPD?

 

[Vagabundo]

Probably playing DS games like Pokemon on it.

No one who lays down €250 on a new gadget doesn't spend an extra something to get the new wazoo working for it. Even if they didn't have an interest in the game itself they would buy anything just to showcase it. Thinking they could trade it in when something they are waiting for comes along.

It doesn't seem right, something is well off.

 

[Kyoufu]

No one who lays down €250 on a new gadget doesn't spend an extra something to get the new wazoo working for it. Even if they didn't have an interest in the game itself they would buy anything just to showcase it. Thinking they could trade it in when something they are waiting for comes along.

It doesn't seem right, something is well off.

I agree it is fishy but I just think of things this way:

- Hardcore Nintendo fans bought the system just because they're devoted to Nintendo, will buy anything they release on launch, but being hardcore they didn't see anything from the launch line-up worth getting. Lets face it, the line-up is trash.

- Casuals thought it was a DS hardware revision, bought it to play DS games.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Street Fighter was 90k sold.. or was that NPD?

That was NPD.

 

[Dabanton]

Here is a list:

http://www.tothegame.com/gamebrowse...3ds&category=0&status=all&territory=eu&page=1

Thank you.

 

[dabra]

Denmark:
Week 15, 2011 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)

01 (01) Lego Star Wars Iii: The Clone Wars (Activision Blizzard)
02 (03) Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
03 (02) Crysis 2 (Electronic Arts)
04 (04) Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
05 (10) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
06 (__) The Sims 3: Late Night (Electronic Arts)
07 (06) The Sims: Medieval (Electronic Arts)
08 (05) Shift 2: Unleashed (Electronic Arts)
09 (__) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
10 (__) Starcraft Ii: Wings Of Liberty (Activision Blizzard)
11 (08) Homefront (Thq)
12 (__) The Sims 3: Design & High-tech Stuff (Electronic Arts)
13 (__) Lego Ninjago: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)
14 (07) Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
15 (__) The Sims 3: Ambitions (Electronic Arts)
16 (__) Grand Theft Auto Iv: Complete Edition (Nordic Game Supply)
17 (__) Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
18 (__) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
19 (14) Counter-strike: Source (Electronic Arts)
20 (__) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)

Italy:
Week 14, 2011

01 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
02 (04) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo
03 (01) [PS3] Crysis 2 Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
04 (06) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
05 (07) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
06 (03) [360] Crysis 2 Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
07 (__) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
08 (09) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)
09 (05) [PS3] Shift 2: Unleashed Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
10 (10) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)

 

[jman2050]

But then again, the previous pre-order record holder was the PS3. ie initial sales mean very little in the grand sheme of things. Consoles and handhelds almost always do good to decent numbers at launch.

Wait so if initial sales don't mean anything why are you and many others quick to jump to conclusions about a device that hasn't been on the market longer than three weeks?

 

[m.i.s.]

Wait so if initial sales don't mean anything why are you and many others quick to jump to conclusions about a device that hasn't been on the market longer than three weeks?

I don't think I'm jumping to any conclusions; merely exploring the possibilities of what may or may not happen based on previous sales of previous systems.

The fact is 3DS has sold below expectation everywhere. It is being outsold by PSP in Japan on a weekly basis for the past two weeks. It sold just under 400,000 at launch in the US (from an initial shipment of 1.6 million) ie just 25% of it's initial shipment for the Fiscal Year. In the UK there has not been one single 3DS title in the Top 40 for two weeks in a row.

Now I'm not saying sales will never improve, but can we not see a problem here? I mean, what else are we going to talk about in a chart track / sales age thread?

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

So 200k hardware sold. Yet no Streetfighter in the top 40. Makes no sense. What the hell are people playing this thing?

There is no way that people didn't buy a game with it. Since Streetfighter is the number one game in the 3ds chart, let assume 50k-100k during the launch week. Is the threshold for the top 40 higher than 50-100k? I don't think so. I believe that the lowest entries there are sub 10k usually.

Something screwy is going on here.

Most new owners probably bought a game the when they bought the console. Since there are low software sales since launch week, we can assume that hw sales have been modest since launch week.

SSF 4 (which isn't trash, btw, by any reasonable metric) had a 25% attach rate at the US launch, and Layton had a about a 30% attach rate in Japan. If we assume similar attach rates for the most popular title in the UK, it has probably sold <50k, and most of that was in the first week.

 

[Banjoman]

Italy:
Week 14, 2011

01 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
02 (04) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo
03 (01) [PS3] Crysis 2 Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
04 (06) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
05 (07) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
06 (03) [360] Crysis 2 Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
07 (__) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
08 (09) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)
09 (05) [PS3] Shift 2: Unleashed Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
10 (10) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)

Oh! Oh! OH!

 

[Jokeropia]

I would respectfully disagree. I think the Japanese, in particular, are just waiting for such a device because it gives full dual analog control on the go. If Monster Hunter comes out for this thing and if any money hats are involved on Sony's part, Nintendo are in BIG trouble.

You're overstating the significance of Monster Hunter. It's only a factor in Japan, where Nintendo owns four separate franchises who all outsold it (on an installment basis) this gen.

 

[m.i.s.]

You're overstating the significance of Monster Hunter. It's only a factor in Japan, where Nintendo owns four separate franchises who all outsold it (on an installment basis) this gen.

Perhaps, but it would put the spotlight firmly on the NGP and Monster Hunter as a spur to continued sales and interest in other launch tiltles of which we know little admittedly.

 

[Dystify]

You're overstating the significance of Monster Hunter. It's only a factor in Japan, where Nintendo owns four separate franchises who all outsold it (on an installment basis) this gen.

DQIX on DS wasn't just special cause of DQ itself, it's announcement was also a reason for many other developer to create more DS games (ie. RPGs). Without DQ the DS might've been much less successful. Of course, this is all just speculation but I'm sure there's some truth behind it.
Monster Hunter may have a similar effect, I just don't know to what extent.

 

[qazqaNii]

3DS failing hard, I even doubt the zelda ocarina of time will make the 3ds sell I mean how many times have it gotten rebooted, ppl are tired of paying for the same game again.

Is it that hard to make a new, RARE(lol RARE) zelda game instead of bringing the old great games and try to make some quick cash.

 

[Phonomezer]

We all know that the 3DS will be outselling everything once software starts dropping on a regular basis and they begin phasing the DS out.

 

[Dystify]

ppl are tired of paying for the same game again.

I don't think so. Aside from that, it's not exactly the "same game again".

OoT3D's release will be exciting to me as it'll show just how people still care for OoT / Zelda. It'll also show how much the 3DS is capable of, sales-wise. At least I'm hoping for big sales numbers.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Last time I played Oot, it was bundled free with every copy of Wind Waker.

 

[Jokeropia]

Perhaps, but it would put the spotlight firmly on the NGP and Monster Hunter as a spur to continued sales and interest in other launch tiltles of which we know little admittedly.

Could a launch Monster Hunter give NGP a better start than 3DS in Japan? Sure, as any blockbuster game helps a system (especially) during launch. But in the long run, Nintendo has several guns of equal (or larger) size and unlike Monster Hunter they are all guaranteed to be exclusive.

DQIX on DS wasn't just special cause of DQ itself, it's announcement was also a reason for many other developer to create more DS games (ie. RPGs). Without DQ the DS might've been much less successful. Of course, this is all just speculation but I'm sure there's some truth behind it.
Monster Hunter may have a similar effect, I just don't know to what extent.

Why speculate? Monster Hunter was on PSP this gen. I'm willing to bet it was more important for PSP than DQ was for DS, btw.

 

[dabra]

Germany:
Week 15, 2011

01 (01) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo)
02 (03) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
03 (06) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
04 (10) [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)
05 (02) [PS3] Crysis 2 Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
06 (__) [NDS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-land Mayhem (Nintendo)
07 (04) [WII] Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars (Lucas Arts)
08 (09) [NDS] Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars (Lucas Arts)
09 (__) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
10 (__) [NDS] Lego Ninjago: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)

 

[Sindou_Hikaru20]

Nintendomination in Germany^^

 

[Graphics Horse]

Not sure which day this happened but I saw HMV and GAME are selling 3DS for £179 this week, crazy.

 

[Alrus]

Wtf at germany?! Was there a sudden massive promotion on all thing nintendo? Or did everything else sell like shit? I mean you got NSMB there...

 

[windfish]

So 200k hardware sold. Yet no Streetfighter in the top 40. Makes no sense. What the hell are people playing this thing?

There is no way that people didn't buy a game with it. Since Streetfighter is the number one game in the 3ds chart, let assume 50k-100k during the launch week. Is the threshold for the top 40 higher than 50-100k? I don't think so. I believe that the lowest entries there are sub 10k usually.

Something screwy is going on here.

well iam one of those, got the 3DS with one free game, the sims! sold it unopened.
My first game will be DoA next month and then probably Zelda. i can't remember a launch that disappointing for me since the 360 and that was because the games i bought sucked!

 

[Four_Chamber]

PS3 without one piece of software in the Top 10 in England is interesting.

Also Michael Jackson- the Experience on Kinect debuted in the top 20. Not bad and I expect that game to have long legs. Great sales for Crysis as well, the Zumba monster is tough to beat.

 

[wotter]

Netherlands:
Week 16, 2011

01 (__) [PS3] Mortal Kombat (WBIE)
02 (__) [360] Mortal Kombat (WBIE)
03 (02) [NDS] Pokémon White (Nintendo)
04 (01) [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision)
05 (03) [NDS] Pokémon Black (Nintendo)
06 (05) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
07 (09) [WII] New Super Mario Bros Wii (Nintendo)
08 (06) [PS3] Crysis 2 (Electronic Arts)
09 (04) [PC] The Sims: Medieval (Electronic Arts)
10 (RE) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)

notes:
- Mortal Kombat scores a 1-2 finish
- Portal 2 failed to chart

 

[fernoca]

Interesting Netherlands chart. MK was released on the 21st, so was only for 2 days.

 

[Danielsan]

Interesting Netherlands chart. MK was released on the 21st, so was only for 2 days.

Plenty of stores broke the street date. A buddy of mine bought it for the PS3 on Tuesday.

 

[fernoca]

Plenty of stores broke the street date. A buddy of mine bought it for the PS3 on Tuesday.

Not bad still. 5 days in that case.
Marvel 3 didn't charted in Netherlands, so I guess they really like MK (more than they liking or not fighting games). Not expecting it really high at the overall charts, though Portal 2 not charting is kinda weird. Hope it's does well overall at least.

 

[confuziz]

Yea MK was available at a lot of stores (like Mediamarkt) on tuesday..(while Portal wasn't, because I was looking for that =P)

 

[gofreak]

Not sure which day this happened but I saw HMV and GAME are selling 3DS for £179 this week, crazy.

I saw HMV here selling it for €205 for the weekend only. Amazing price, the price here at launch IIRC was around €270.

 

[MMaRsu]

Netherlands:
Week 16, 2011

01 (__) [PS3] Mortal Kombat (WBIE)
02 (__) [360] Mortal Kombat (WBIE)
03 (02) [NDS] Pokémon White (Nintendo)
04 (01) [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision)
05 (03) [NDS] Pokémon Black (Nintendo)
06 (05) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
07 (09) [WII] New Super Mario Bros Wii (Nintendo)
08 (06) [PS3] Crysis 2 (Electronic Arts)
09 (04) [PC] The Sims: Medieval (Electronic Arts)
10 (RE) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)

notes:
- Mortal Kombat scores a 1-2 finish
- Portal 2 failed to chart

FUCK YEAH

Portal 2 not charting is very sad news by the way. Dutch people are stupid confirmed.

 

[Kenka]

FUCK YEAH

I want this thing on PC. I mean, seriously. Please. The opening itself is worth praises. I'll just get happy with my Youtube vids.

 

[Loudninja]

Nordic chart
http://www.swedishgamesindustry.com/nordic-chart.aspx

Swedish chart
http://www.swedishgamesindustry.com/swedish-chart.aspx

 

[Dash Kappei]

Inazuma Eleven DS is still doing great in Italy.. we sure love anything calcio-related

 

[subversus]

Portal 2 tops the chart, MK9 is at #2, Crysis 2 bombs to #8 after three consequitive weeks in top 3.

 

[szaromir]

Pokemon out of top 10?

 

[surly]

The UK chart for last week: -

01 - Portal 2 (360)
02 - Mortal Kombat (PS3)
03 - Mortal Kombat (360)
04 - Portal 2 (PS3)
05 - Zumba Fitness (Wii)
06 - Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS3)
07 - Operation Flashpoint: Red River (360)
08 - Wii Fit Plus (Wii)
09 - Call of Duty: Black Ops (360)
10 - Pokemon Black (DS)
11 - Pokemon White (DS)
12 - Wii Sports Resort (Wii)
13 - Just Dance 2 (Wii)
14 - FIFA 11 (360)
15 - Crysis 2 (360)
16 - Lego Star Wars III (360)
17 - Portal 2 (PC)
18 - Homefront (360)
19 - FIFA 11 (PS3)
20 - Crysis 2 (PS3)
21 - Operation Flashpoint: Red River (PS3)
22 - LittleBigPlanet 2 (PS3)
23 - Wii Party (Wii)
24 - SOCOM: Special Forces (PS3)
25 - Carnival Games: In Action (360)
26 - Art Academy (DS)
27 - Homefront (PS3)
28 - WWE All Stars (360)
29 - Lego Star Wars III (DS)
30 - Kinect Sports (360)
31 - Lego Stars Wars III (Wii)
32 - WWE All Stars (PS3)
33 - Motorstorm: Apocalypse (PS3)
34 - Killzone 3 (PS3)
35 - Bulletstorm (360)
36 - Tiger Woods PGA Tour 12 (PS3)
37 - Tiger Woods PGA Tour 12 (360)
38 - Michael Jackson: The Experience (360)
39 - Dragon Age II (360)
40 - Shift 2: Unleashed (360)

 

[cws]

Didnt expect 360 Portal to outsell the PS3 version.