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[BurntPork]

3DS is comatose in critical condition. :/ I hope Nintendo finds something to do before Vita launches. If they don't, it's definitely going to end up like the PSP, or even the Japanese 360.

 

[MrCookiepants]

But it's 58%.

Typo, oops!

 

[m.i.s.]

going to end up like the PSP

The writing is on the wall for both the the new dedicated handhelds in the West.

Not only are they competing with a resurgent 360 and PS3 and smartphones and tablets but also on price and power. It's a strange catch-22, the more powerful the handheld, the more it competes, unfavourably, with home consoles.

I wouldn't necessarily write it off completely until after Christmas though.

 

[test_account]

In the Game stores I've seen, there's a fair selection of PSP stuff, all pre-owned, at clearance prices whereas 3DS stuff is all prominently displayed in the chart section next to PS3 and 360 software.

Yeah, i can see that there is a good selection of older pre-owned games, but i dont think those are counted towards these charts.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Well glad to see PSP alive somewhere in the west.

Maybe the E1000 unit only for europe was a good step after all.

 

[Takao]

Guys, the PSP has a far larger install base than 3DS, even if it is almost dead software wise.
But... you know what game has always appeared, even in high positions for PSP?
Yes. FIFA
And you know what positions in charts occupied the DS version of FIFA when it appeared (2009 and 2010)?
Yeah, 30th and 26th.
It has also few games compared to the hundreds and hundreds of PSP.
So...FIFA isn't a very sincere barometer of 3DS' performance.
And, however, I'm really expecting this month's investors conference, so we'll finally see where 3DS stabilised after the drop...and how the other consoles are doing, basically

A compelling analysis.

 

[noobie]

It haven't drop from last week (0%), other games drop and that's why R3 move up 3.

But being in Top 10 is not bad.. and most of the time PS3 games goes out of the chart in 5 weeks (ignoring the ever green titles like FIFA, COD etc)... but its still hanging in Top 10 after 4th is impressive i think...

 

[Loudninja]

Irish chart
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/ire/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=210015

I assume R3 had some kind of sale?

 

[Four_Chamber]

Excited bout Dark Souls doing so well. I got a chuckle out of one of the DS fans (who's now banned) who would constantly state the "real" DS community is on the PS3. Props to From for being able to go multiplatform without much of a hitch. It's great so many more people will play this game

 

[Wazzim]

Ouch for Konami and PES.

 

[Lily]

Ouch for Konami and PES.

???

Game aint out until Friday

 

[Hot Coldman]

Hurrah for Dark Souls. Brilliant that it managed to break into the Top 10, I imagine it'd be 3rd/4th if FIFA 12 wasn't out yet.

 

[BurntPork]

The writing is on the wall for both the the new dedicated handhelds in the West.

Not only are they competing with a resurgent 360 and PS3 and smartphones and tablets but also on price and power. It's a strange catch-22, the more powerful the handheld, the more it competes, unfavourably, with home consoles.

I wouldn't necessarily write it off completely until after Christmas though.

Save that for the garbage thread, please.

 

[Jokeropia]

Apart from Tetris in a few weeks (which isn't exactly a big game, just the only one of note), the 3DS release list is pretty damn barren until the holiday lineup starting around the middle of November. (At which point it finally gets some real system sellers.)

Still, even in Japan where 3DS is the best selling system by far it's only got around 5 spots in the top 50. With such a small installed base still compared to the old systems it cannot compete for number of games in the chart.

 

[fernoca]

Though as was noted in the prior thread; Fifa was never a big seller on the regular Nintendo DS. And just like it, the 3DS version debuted in the 30s in last week's chart.

Maybe it been offline also had some influence; when prior Nintendo DS versions were online.

 

[bigtroyjon]

Not much in the way of surprises, except for Kinect Joyride entering the charts again. When was the last time we had a Kinect game in the top 40? (bonus points if you can tell me any game other than Kinect Sports!)

360 Top 40 full price for the week

Joy Ride not included so it's probably part of a bundle. Highest Kinect title appears to be Kinectimals at #14.

 

[BKK]

360 Top 40 full price for the week

Joy Ride not included so it's probably part of a bundle. Highest Kinect title appears to be Kinectimals at #14.

Because it's counted as a budget game (£13 on Amazon) ...

TOP 40 MICROSOFT XBOX 360 (BUDGET PRICE), WEEK ENDING 8 October 2011

 

[bigtroyjon]

Because it's counted as a budget game (£13 on Amazon) ...

TOP 40 MICROSOFT XBOX 360 (BUDGET PRICE), WEEK ENDING 8 October 2011

Where do they draw the line on budget or full price?

 

[BKK]

Where do they draw the line on budget or full price?

It varies by format, I haven't seen any up to date info on what the current cut-off is, but this is what it was in 2005;

• All sales figures represent our estimate of sales through the listed outlets.
• Operating System Software is excluded from all Chart-Track Software Reports.
• Prices and value are based on RRP to June 2002 and ASP from July 2002.
• The cut-off point for Full-Price and Budget software is £16.99 for all formats except PS2, Xbox and Gamecube (£19.99).
• Companies who are particularly strong in outlets not sampled are understated as a consequence of the panel structure.
• As of January 2005 the Chart-Track panel is estimated to be around 90% of the UK retail market (85% July 2002 - December 2004 and 80% pre-July 2002).
• Please note that December 2004 was a six week month instead of the usual 5 weeks.

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/assets/files/b/basicbook_180.pdf

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

Resistance 3 is hanging in there.

 

[mclem]

Given that they list PS2, Xbox and Gamecube as the ones with 'premium' pricing, I suspect that's *very* old.

Edit: Ah, just noticed the mention of '05. That makes sense.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Everyone's excited about Dark Souls' sales, failing to understand those could be really low, that it coukd go either way. What's funny is that everyone seemed to realize that when Xenoblade came out, but apparently that isn't true anymore?
We should wait for, possibly, BKK's round numbers.

 

[walking fiend]

Everyone's excited about Dark Souls' sales, failing to understand those could be really low, that it coukd go either way. What's funny is that everyone seemed to realize that when Xenoblade came out, but apparently that isn't true anymore?
We should wait for, possibly, BKK's round numbers.

those were really slow weeks, both version are above Zumba.

 

[Twister Flipper]

Italy:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) PES 2012 (PS3)
3) FIFA 12 (X360)
4) PES 2012 (X360)
5) FIFA 12 (PS2)
6) Gears of War 3 (X360)
7) F1 2011 (PS3)
8) Ico & Shadow of Colossus Collection Classics (PS3)
9) FIFA 12 (PSP)
10) FIFA 12 (Wii)


http://www.aesvi.it/cms/charts.php?dir_pk=206

 

[Loudninja]

Denmark chart:
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/dk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=310001

 

[Anasui Kishibe]

Italy:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) PES 2012 (PS3)
3) FIFA 12 (X360)
4) PES 2012 (X360)
5) FIFA 12 (PS2)
6) Gears of War 3 (X360)
7) F1 2011 (PS3)
8) Ico & Shadow of Colossus Collection Classics (PS3)
9) FIFA 12 (PSP)
10) FIFA 12 (Wii)


http://www.aesvi.it/cms/charts.php?dir_pk=206

 

[AdventureRacing]

The problem isn't with the handheld market. The 3DS just needs some games, the line-up is terrible and there is just nothing releasing. It's ridiculous to have a drought like this so soon after release.

 

[test_account]

Everyone's excited about Dark Souls' sales, failing to understand those could be really low, that it coukd go either way. What's funny is that everyone seemed to realize that when Xenoblade came out, but apparently that isn't true anymore?
We should wait for, possibly, BKK's round numbers.

He already gave them

(90% Coverage);

Dark Souls PS3 - <29K (58%)
Dark Souls All - <50k (100%)

Xenoblade was under 10k the first week if i remember correctly.

 

[BishopLamont]

3DS is comatose in critical condition. :/ I hope Nintendo finds something to do before Vita launches. If they don't, it's definitely going to end up like the PSP, or even the Japanese 360.

Yeah its called strong first party games, come on dude, the 3DS is in a stronger position than the VITA is. PSP or Japanese 360? Stop with the hyperbole already, even without the big guns, and despite the small userbase, the 3DS has been outselling the PSP in software sales , its certainly not much but its also not a PSP comparable situation.

The problem isn't with the handheld market. The 3DS just needs some games, the line-up is terrible and there is just nothing releasing. It's ridiculous to have a drought like this so soon after release.

They thought they'd get a free ride without the VITA out, but these days you don't win by just beating your direct competitor, you still have competition elsewhere and thus need your own appeal, I think Nintendo has handled the whole situation pretty well after the fact, they're trying to get as many games released as possible, first and third party wise and all console launches have droughts, the 3DS might have been a little worse than usual, but it totally makes up for it this holiday.

 

[dabra]

Spain :
September 2011

01 (__) [360] Gears of War 3 (Microsoft)
02 (__) [PS3] F1 2011 (Codemasters)
03 (08) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony)
04 (__) [PS3] Dead Island (Koch Media)
05 (__) [360] Gears of War 3: Edition collector (Microsoft)
06 (01) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo)
07 (03) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
08 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
09 (__) [360] Dead Island (Koch Media)
10 (__) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)

 

[StealthGoblin]

Gran Turismo 5. It'll never die.

I can't wait to see Polyphony's updated numbers (when they get around to it).

It was at 6.37 million as of December 2010.

 

[KingDizzi]

GT5 deserves every sale it gets if not for just the X1, spend about 3 hours yesterday racing that beast around different circuits in arcade mode. The platinum versions seems to be doing quite well, it is almost a certainty at this point that the game has passed 7 million. FIFA 12 is my first football game in 2 years and enjoying it immensely so good sales for a good game!

 

[StealthGoblin]

GT5 deserves every sale it gets if not for just the X1, spend about 3 hours yesterday racing that beast around different circuits in arcade mode. The platinum versions seems to be doing quite well, it is almost a certainty at this point that the game has passed 7 million. FIFA 12 is my first football game in 2 years and enjoying it immensely so good sales for a good game!

Are they releasing Spec II on disc? That would have made some decent numbers this Xmas.

 

[KingDizzi]

No I don't think they will, with prologue the spec updates were not released in disc form expect in Japan. It's just a standard Sony thing in that after a year their first party games get a platinum release. Does not matter how the game has done, actually within the year they release the platinum version. I'm not complaining though, as consumers we get their games for cheap quickly and seeing as though Sony keep expanding their first party, the games are obviously doing well enough.

The demand for GT5 is still there and hope PD just keep supporting the game no need for GT6 on the PS3. Sales age is going to be mighty interesting for the next couple months starting really with Batman, with MW3 it's just a questions of how much it will beat the most sales in a week record by, not if.

 

[Twister Flipper]

Germany:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) FIFA 12 (X360)
3) Rage (X360)
4) Dark Souls (PS3)
5) Rage (PS3)
6) PES 2012 (PS3)
7) F1 2011 (PS3)
8) FIFA 12 (Wii)
9) RAGE Anarchy Edition Steelbook (PS3)
10) Gears of War 3 (X360)

http://www.gamona.de/konsolen-charts

Sweden:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) FIFA 12 (X360)
3) Dark Souls - Limited Edition (PS3)
4) WoW Game Card 60 Days (Card)
5) Rage - Anarchy Edition (X360)
6) Rage - Anarchy Edition (PS3)
7) Dark Souls - Limited Edition (X360)
8) Rage - Anarchy Edition (PC)
9) NHL 12 (PS3)
10) Gears of War 3 (X360)
11) NHL 12 (X360)
12) Live 3 Months (Card)
13) PlayStation Network 200 SEK (Card)
14) The Sims 3 (PC)
15) ICO/Shadow of tthe Colossus Collection (PS3)
16) WoW Battlechest (PC)
17) WoW Cataclysm (PC)
18) COD: Black Ops (PS3)
19) Live Gold 3 Man (Old) (Card)
20) Dead Island (PS3)

http://www.gfkhitlist.com/game.aspx

 

[Xater]

Look at all this football filling the European charts!

Not really that surprising.

 

[noobie]

Look at all this football filling the European charts!

Not really that surprising.

seeing Dark Soul, ICO, Rage, GoW and GT5 in some places is a nice touch.

 

[dabra]

Finland:
Week 39 + 40, 2011

01 (__) Fifa 12 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) NHL 12 (Electronic Arts)
03 (02) SingStar SuomiSuosikit (Sony)
04 (__) Dark Souls (Namco Bandai)
05 (03) Gears of War 3 (Microsoft)
06 (__) Rage (Bethesda)
07 (__) Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
08 (04) Dead Island (Deep Silver)
09 (05) F1 2011 (Codemasters)
10 (06) Cars 2 (Disney)

 

[Opus Angelorum]

3DS even with the price drop, on life support.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Italy:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) PES 2012 (PS3)
3) FIFA 12 (X360)
4) PES 2012 (X360)
5) FIFA 12 (PS2)
6) Gears of War 3 (X360)
7) F1 2011 (PS3)
8) Ico & Shadow of Colossus Collection Classics (PS3)
9) FIFA 12 (PSP)
10) FIFA 12 (Wii)


http://www.aesvi.it/cms/charts.php?dir_pk=206

Holly shit Italy.

Spain :
September 2011

01 (__) [360] Gears of War 3 (Microsoft)
02 (__) [PS3] F1 2011 (Codemasters)
03 (08) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony)
04 (__) [PS3] Dead Island (Koch Media)
05 (__) [360] Gears of War 3: Edition collector (Microsoft)
06 (01) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo)
07 (03) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
08 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
09 (__) [360] Dead Island (Koch Media)
10 (__) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)

GT5 third? How?

 

[Bomber Bob]

Italy:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) PES 2012 (PS3)
3) FIFA 12 (X360)
4) PES 2012 (X360)
5) FIFA 12 (PS2)
6) Gears of War 3 (X360)
7) F1 2011 (PS3)
8) Ico & Shadow of Colossus Collection Classics (PS3)
9) FIFA 12 (PSP)
10) FIFA 12 (Wii)


http://www.aesvi.it/cms/charts.php?dir_pk=206

Wow I'm Italian and I don't even like football and now I feel bad

 

[SmokyDave]

3DS even with the price drop, on life support.

The meme 'X has no games' is applicable here. The 3DS software selection is so sparse it's painful. People cling on to MarioKart / Mario 3D Land as saviours but it's going to take a hell of a lot more than that.

It's a shame, because the 3D effect is cool as fuck.

 

[swordfishtrombones]

GT5 third? How?

Huge patch (Spec II), upcoming DLC?

 

[Loudninja]

Huge patch (Spec II), upcoming DLC?

This was for September so it does not include that stuff yet.

 

[Yoshichan]

Oh, Italy.

 

[BKK]

Finland:
Week 39 + 40, 2011

01 (__) Fifa 12 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) NHL 12 (Electronic Arts)
03 (02) SingStar SuomiSuosikit (Sony)
04 (__) Dark Souls (Namco Bandai)
05 (03) Gears of War 3 (Microsoft)
06 (__) Rage (Bethesda)
07 (__) Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
08 (04) Dead Island (Deep Silver)
09 (05) F1 2011 (Codemasters)
10 (06) Cars 2 (Disney)

Maybe better to use the Finnish chart from here? It has the benefit of being Individual formats, weekly, and Top 20. The minor disadavantage is that it includes network cards, but this is made up for by the extra 10 positions.

 

[CozMick]

If PES'12 doesn't sit at the number one spot next week in the UK I will throw my beloved copy of CMR3 into the recycling.

I have that much faith in the UK population.

 

[Twister Flipper]

Norway:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) FIFA 12 (X360)
3) Dark Souls - Limited Edition (PS3)
4) Rage - Anarchy Edition (PS3)
5) Rage - Anarchy Edition (X360)
6) Dark Souls - Limited Edition (X360)
7) The Sims 3 (PC)
8) Rage - Anarchy Edition (PC)
9) Gears of War 3 (X360)
10) Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)
11) WoW 60 Days Game Card (Card)
12) Red Dead Redemption (PS3)
13) ICO/Shadow of the Colossus Collection (PS3)
14) Driver: San Francisco (PS3)
15) New Super Mario Bros (DS)
16) Skate 3 (PS3)
17) Dead Island (PS3)
18) COD: Black Ops (PS3)
19) FIFA 12 (Wii)
20) The Sims 3: Late Night (PC)

Finland:
1) FIFA 12 (PS3)
2) Dark Souls - Limited Edition (PS3)
3) NHL 12 (PS3)
4) Live 12 Months + 2 Months Gold Card GoW Edition (Card)
5) WoW Pre-paid Game Card 60 Days (Card)
6) FIFA 12 (X360)
7) Rage - Anarchy Edition (X360)
8) Rage - Anarchy Edition (PS3)
9) Mario Kart Wii + Ratti (Wii)
10) NHL 12 (X360)
11) PlayStation Network Card 20€ (Card)
12) Dark Souls - Limited Edition (X360)
13) Singstar Suomisuosikit (PS3)
14) New Super Mario Bros (Wii)
15) We Dance + Dance Mat (Wii)
16) Zumba Fitness (Wii)
17) Gears of War 3 (X360)
18) Rage - Anarchy Edition (PC)
19) Cars Mater Tall Tales (Wii)
20) Singstar Suomisuosikit (PS2)


http://www.gfkhitlist.com/game.aspx

 

[Danielsan]

Scandinavia knows what's up. Great to see Dark Souls high up the lists there.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Spec II version of GT5 with all the patches and DLC on the disk with a €39.99 price tag this Christmas would do great numbers. Too bad SCEE is being run by idiots.