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PAL Charts - Week 7, 2017
- Thread starter Bruno MB
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Horizon FW will be around 60-80k. Above it will be quite impressive and below it will be quite disappointing for Sony atleast.
We've some pretty strong concentrations around 'hyped' first party releases, so I don't think there's any worry about Horizon, it's enjoyed a long and well fed hype cycle. We've had tirefires like NMS sell exceptionally when pushed by marketing in the right way, I don't expect an actually well received game to falter.
Its only obvious potential pitfall will be the focus testing issue on Aloy being female.
I'd put it in the neighborhood of 100k.
Obliterator
Member
Lol no. It will be nowhere even in the same ballpark as Destiny or The Division. Like not close at all
I think Horizon will do between 80k - 100k
Admittedly, Destiny didn't come to mind at all - but in terms of individual formats, I think Horizon could fare pretty well.
DarkLordMalik
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What was the opening for Destiny and The Division?
miller.skippins
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Obliterator
Member
Destiny sold globally 6.4 million units during its opening month
I'm pretty sure he was asking for:
Destiny had a monstrous launch for a new IP !
DarkLordMalik
Member
Wow. Destiny was huge. I doubt if the sequel comes any closer.
Obliterator
Member
I mean Horizon will be nowhere near Destiny in either the UK launch or the global launch. Just giving perspective
Destiny 2 will launch bigger, though it may not be reflected in the charts due to increased digital split
Sequel will be bigger. Think healthy COD numbers. I would not be surprised if it comes close to FIFA.
hanspampel
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Destiny was the biggest new IP lauch this gen in the UK
Titanfall was the biggest new IP exclusive launch this gen in the UK
Titanfall was the biggest new IP exclusive launch this gen in the UK
ethomaz
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It will be way bigger.
The word of moth of Destiny after launch was crazy and the increase in active players were ridiculous.
It was probably only matched by Overwatch this gen.
How can you call something exclusive that was out to XB1, PC and 360??? Probably Xbox console exclusive you meant.
The 360 version launched a few weeks or a month later.
ethomaz
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That didn't change what I said... PC released at the same time.
Biggest console exclusive? Sure... I don't know for sure how it sold compared with others console exclusives.
But it was not exclusive.
Biggest New IP exclusive launch this gen in UK is probably other game...
PC physical release numbers were not that huge to impact the overall number. It is a console exclusive. Same with NMS which is second.
EDTI: Good point. I guess BB or SO maybe.
ethomaz
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Again... that didn't change what I said... it was not a exclusive launch.
inFAMOUS was not a new IP.
Sure if you are being pedantic about it but for most of us we consider NMS and TF exclusives.
ethomaz
Banned
They are not and I'm not being pedantic at all.
The question was the biggest exclusive new IP... NMS and TF are out from the list by definition.
Well BB is case some will say it is not a new IP... others will it is... I believe it is.
SO was the first game to come to my head for exclusive new IP.
hanspampel
Banned
Same like No Man's Sky is exclusive.
And the 360 version was released later, nevertheless
*not on both Ps4 and Xb1 if you want to be nitpicky
FTFY
NMS did not even have a retail release for PC
So why would GFK even make the distinction?
ethomaz
Banned
NMS was never exclusive lol
GFK even says "second biggest ever PlayStation 4 launch" but didn't use exclusive in any way.
Edit - There is nothing about MY... they are not exclusives in any list... any tracker tracks it as multiplatform... let't me guess your bullshit definition says SFV, every Indie released only PS4 and PC, most Japanese games, are all "exclusives" c'mon.
Because NMS is multiplatform no matter if it is physical or digital release.
hanspampel
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Yes, they said second biggest Ps4 release ever, correct
And that is not true at all, if they would consider it a multiplatform titel
FIFA, CoD, Battlefield, Destiny, Watch Dogs all those games had a bigger Ps4 release.
According to your definition of exclusives, those type of games do not even exist anymore.
Even those rare Ps4 exclusive that are just playable on one single platform right now, will likely be playable on Ps5 or Ps Now in the future.
So welcome to the new world, where "exclusive games" don't exist anymore
Ohh and if you consider a later (re)release on a different platform no breach of exclusivity, than Rise of the Tomb Raider is a Xbox One exclusive
But it's fine if you have your own defintion of exculsive games. just don't act like there is just one and no contradiction in the term
Reviews vs. genre-fatigue vs. new IP attraction. There's a lot of competing factors here that would need to be unpacked to determine length of legs. Its possible that it may just tapper out quickly due to genre, and other games in other genres that are not so fatigued drawing away audience interest.
We shall see!
ethomaz
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Exclusives are exclusive no matter how bullshit you try to pass... and a lot of exclusives games were released this gen... the word is far from being dead... even XB1 has about 30 exclusives.Yes, they said second biggest Ps4 release ever, correct
And that is not true at all, if they would consider it a multiplatform titel
FIFA, CoD, Battlefield, Destiny, Watch Dogs all those games had a bigger Ps4 release.
According to your definition of exclusives, those type of games do not even exist anymore.
Even those rare Ps4 exclusive that are just playable on one single platform right now, will likely be playable on Ps5 or Ps Now in the future.
So welcome to the new word, where "exclusive games" don't exist anymore
Ohh and if you consider a later (re)release on a different platform no breach of exclusivity, than Rise of the Tomb Raider is a Xbox One exclusive
But it's fine if you have your own defintion of exculsive games. just don't act like there is just one and no contradiction in the term
Rise of Tomb Raider was not exclusive... it was a timed exclusive but you know that.
Obliterator
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I do expect Horizon to do very well though btw. I think 100k is very possible and if it can open above that, it would be an outstanding performance.
hanspampel
Banned
yes.
exclusive Games like Gears of War 4 ( playable on Xbox One and Windows 10)
Forza Horizon 2 (playable on Xbox One and Xb360)
Persona 5 (playable on Ps3 and Ps4)
you still don't get it?
i don't care if you reserve the term exclusive only for "single platform exclusive games"
i do call timed exclusives, console exclusives, Microsoft / Sony exclusives and platform exclusives all exclusive games
your definition is also flawed and incorrect. so stop calling them just exclusives. start call them "single platform only exclusives for the time of release" to be correct
ethomaz
Banned
These are not exclusives and they will never be but if you want to give a name for them...
Gears of War 4 = Xbox One console exclusive or Microsoft exclusive
Forza Horizon 2 = Xbox exclusive
Persona 5 = PlayStation exclusive
But at the end all of these are multiplatform games... if you play them in more than one platform then it is multiplatform.
XB1 has ~30 exclusive and you can't list one lol
Triggerhappytel
Member
You think it's going to beat Destiny, Watch Dogs and The Division? Naw, man. Not a chance. Will be one of Sony's biggest game launches ever though.
Bruno MB
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Spain:
Week 7, 2017 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (NE) PS4 FOR HONOR (UBISOFT) - 13,000 / NEW
02 (??) PS4 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2) - 4,500 / 500,000
03 (??) PS4 FIFA 17 (ELECTRONIC ARTS) - 3,000 / 550,000
04 (01) PS4 NIOH (SONY COMPUTER ENT.) - 2,300 / 10,000
05 (NE) 3DS DRAGON BALL FUSIONS (BANDAI NAMCO ENTERTAINMENT) - 2,200 / NEW
I don't know what I was smoking when I thought that lol, those 3 are way too big.
Some LTD Spanish numbers until Week 6 seen in Hobby Consolas magazine.
PS4 - Nioh - 6,200
PS4 - Gravity Rush 2 - 1,650
PS4 - Yakuza 0 - 1,250
PS4 - Tales of Berseria - 1,200
PS4 - Resident Evil VII - 27,100
XBO - Resident Evil VII - 2,300
3DS - Super Mario Maker - 60,200
WiU - Super Mario Maker - 60,700
Wii - Just Dance 2017 - 88,000
WiU - Just Dance 2017 - 21,000
PS4 - Just Dance 2017 - 15,700
XBO - Just Dance 2017 - 1,300
Combined:
FIFA 17 - 639,000
PES 2017 - 64,700
DiRT Rally - 20,100
PS4 - Nioh - 6,200
PS4 - Gravity Rush 2 - 1,650
PS4 - Yakuza 0 - 1,250
PS4 - Tales of Berseria - 1,200
PS4 - Resident Evil VII - 27,100
XBO - Resident Evil VII - 2,300
3DS - Super Mario Maker - 60,200
WiU - Super Mario Maker - 60,700
Wii - Just Dance 2017 - 88,000
WiU - Just Dance 2017 - 21,000
PS4 - Just Dance 2017 - 15,700
XBO - Just Dance 2017 - 1,300
Combined:
FIFA 17 - 639,000
PES 2017 - 64,700
DiRT Rally - 20,100
Bruno MB
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Halo Wars 2 couldn't dethrone For Honor from the top position.
Meanwhile Nioh remains stable, it only drops 3 places to No15.
Meanwhile Nioh remains stable, it only drops 3 places to No15.
Code:
Top 40 Entertainment Software (All Prices) Week 8 Year 2017
Ending 25th February
LW TW Title Age Rating Publisher
1 1 FOR HONOR PEGI 18+ UBISOFT
2 HALO WARS 2 PEGI 16+ MICROSOFT
3 3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V PEGI 18+ ROCKSTAR
4 4 FIFA 17 PEGI 3+ EA SPORTS
2 5 SNIPER ELITE 4 PEGI 16+ SOLD OUT SALES & MARKETING
5 6 BATTLEFIELD 1 PEGI 18+ EA GAMES
8 7 ROCKET LEAGUE PEGI 3+ 505 GAMES
7 8 CALL OF DUTY: INFINITE WARFARE PEGI 18+ ACTIVISION
6 9 RESIDENT EVIL 7: BIOHAZARD PEGI 18+ CAPCOM
9 10 FORZA HORIZON 3 PEGI 3+ MICROSOFT
13 11 MINECRAFT: XBOX EDITION PEGI 7+ MICROSOFT
10 12 WATCH DOGS 2 PEGI 18+ UBISOFT
11 13 OVERWATCH PEGI 12+ BLIZZARD
14 14 HITMAN: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON PEGI 18+ SQUARE ENIX
12 15 NIOH PEGI 18+ SONY COMPUTER ENT.
16 16 WWE 2K17 PEGI 16+ 2K
17 17 LEGO STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS PEGI 7+ WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
15 18 LEGO DIMENSIONS PEGI 7+ LEGO DIMENSIONS
18 19 POKEMON SUN PEGI 7+ NINTENDO
20 20 THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM SPECIAL ED. PEGI 18+ BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
19 21 STEEP PEGI 12+ UBISOFT
25 22 NBA 2K17 PEGI 3+ 2K
22 23 FALLOUT 4 PEGI 18+ BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
28 24 TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW 6: SIEGE PEGI 18+ UBISOFT
24 25 GEARS OF WAR 4 PEGI 18+ MICROSOFT
21 26 MAFIA III PEGI 18+ 2K
38 27 UNCHARTED 4: A THIEF'S END PEGI 16+ SONY COMPUTER ENT.
23 28 MINECRAFT: PLAYSTATION EDITION PEGI 7+ SONY COMPUTER ENT.
31 29 FINAL FANTASY XV PEGI 16+ SQUARE ENIX
26 30 TITANFALL 2 PEGI 16+ EA GAMES
30 31 POKEMON MOON PEGI 7+ NINTENDO
32 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS III PEGI 18+ ACTIVISION
27 33 LEGO MARVEL AVENGERS PEGI 7+ WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
34 FARMING SIMULATOR 17 PEGI 3+ FOCUS HOME INTERACTIVE
35 RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER: 20 YEAR EDITION PEGI 18+ SQUARE ENIX
29 36 DOOM PEGI 18+ BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
33 37 ASSASSIN'S CREED: THE EZIO COLLECTION PEGI 18+ UBISOFT
38 NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 PEGI 3+ NINTENDO
32 39 SUPER MARIO MAKER PEGI 3+ NINTENDO
37 40 TOM CLANCY'S THE DIVISION PEGI 18+ UBISOFTBits N Pieces
Member
Second spot for Halo Wars 2 seems more than decent and Horizon 3 still kicking around the Top 10 is awesome to see.
Next week should be really interesting, can see Horizon ZD selling absolute gangbusters!
Next week should be really interesting, can see Horizon ZD selling absolute gangbusters!
Triggerhappytel
Member
Oh shit, that means next week Horizon is going to be battling with Zelda? I mean, normally I would say Horizon would coast to the number 1 spot, but I bet the number of copies Zelda sells will be near enough 1:1 with the Switch console sales!
You'd think, but the bloody game keps selling out on both formats.
I'd assume Zelda will be number 1, the only thing going against it is the extra 2 days Horizon gets on sale.
Lawd...
Nightengale
Member
Even if there's no Switch version , Zelda will outsell Horizon anyway imo.
Never underestimate mainline Zelda.
Never underestimate mainline Zelda.
Bruno MB
Member
Thank you, I hadn't read the magazine yet.
You missed Nioh which sold 6,200 units in its first week.
Stilton Disco
Member
Pleasantly surprised to see HW2 so high! Not that there's a huge amount of competition admittedly, but a spin off RTS on console charting in the number 2 spot warms my heart.
I think Zelda has it in the bag. Years of (apparently well placed) hype plus a hotly anticipated new console to drive it will power through any competition. Still expect Horizon to sell gangbusters though.
I think Zelda has it in the bag. Years of (apparently well placed) hype plus a hotly anticipated new console to drive it will power through any competition. Still expect Horizon to sell gangbusters though.
Fixed.
Triggerhappytel
Member
On the other hand Horizon is a massive new franchise for Sony which has had over 18 months of build up since a very successful E3 reveal and it's on a console with a userbase of >5 million in the UK, I think? I reckon it'll be closer than people expect.
Nightengale
Member
It's also a new IP. Zelda is a highly established brand with some of the most hardcore and loyal fanbase out there.
Big marketing push it may be, anecdotally I'm seeing the same kind of consumer fever that say... Titanfall managed to conjure.
I mean, at the end of the day, when we look at Zelda sales, the fact that Hyrule Warriors, WW HD and TP HD all manage to do really good numbers despite the WiiU's horrendous install base shows that even though the WiiU install base is small, a large % of them are core Zelda fans.
nah, 1 2 switch will not outsell Horizon.