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Paper Mario: Color Splash Review Thread
- Thread starter Tom Nook Sawyer
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Really? The team did a bunch of research on paper and craft textures to make sure they could create environments that actually mimicked the materials appropriately. On top of that, the lightning gives the entire game (or at least what I've seen) a sort of paper diorama display look. There's plenty of effort and creativity in this game.
OniBarubary
Banned
I mean...I straight up don't care how it reviews, I'm not going to buy it. I don't know why people care about the reviews either as if changing the way a game is done automatically makes it a bad game. It doesn't necessarily. This game is probably good. I just...don't want this game.
And that's a fine reason to not want to get something or play it. The game has changed from what I enjoyed about the series, I gave it a shot with Sticker Star and hated it and this one is apparently more polished Sticker Star. If people like it, cool, but that's not appealing to me so I won't buy it.
That was hardly their point at all if I'm not mistaken. It's fine if you don't wanna play this game or have any interest in it or it's reviews. Their response was probably more directed at the posts in this thread pointing out how SS got good reviews as if that suddenly discredits any sort of positive reviews CS now gets.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Your rankings for the previous PM games are basically identical to mine, so I'm leaning towards taking your word this is a flawed but still very good, 'different' Paper Mario game.
The idea that they rated it above SPM excites me considering I absolutely adore that game, but for that same reason I doubt it'll be as good.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
There's a lot I really like about SPM, but it's all over the place quality wise and I definitely agree it's way too wordy for a platformer. If Color Splash is like that rather than the total dumpster fire Sticker Star was, I'll happily take that, even if I'd prefer a proper PM3 down the track.
Mr Waluigi
Banned
It takes no time except you must do it 4 times in a boring fetch quest and it ends up taking up the first 3/4th of the chapter. It's only tolerable when you're fighting enemies along the way, otherwise there is nothing fun to do except keep going left/right until the game decides that you are allowed to go to the next area. At least Chapter 4's backtracking was fun because you were solving a mystery and running around has to be part of it - same for Chapter 6. But Chapter 5 is the absolute lowest point of the game.
It does, but it still doesn't fix the fact that the card selection process slows down combat (and sometimes makes your choice of attacks awkward) without actually adding anything.
With the advanced button controls nothing change from the usual rpg attack scrolling selection
And the coloring part is a strategic layer due to it not being an on/off action
You determine the quantity of color and so the level of power of the card
GhostWriter24
Member
Has Nintendo World Report ever given a first party Ninty game lesser than an 8?
Dagobert Duck
Member
So the game might actually be worth a try...after sticker star I didnt want to get it, but reviews and gaf impressions seem positive...
by the way, what about Mario Party Star Rush? doesnt it come out tomorrow too?
by the way, what about Mario Party Star Rush? doesnt it come out tomorrow too?
quick google led to metacritic critic profile, which led me to
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness & Time
NintendoWorldReport - 45
Metacritic Overall - 60
seems like a pretty disliked game, but they seemed to dislike it more than everyone else.
edit: This is kinda fun
Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival
NWR - 45
Metacritic - 46
Warioware Snapped!
NWR - 40
Metacritic - 53
Mario Tennis Ultra Smash
NWR - 35
Meta - 58
Brain Age 2:
NWR - 70
Meta - 77
other m, Mario & Sonc 2014 (their score is 15 higher than the Meta), M&S 2012, pokemon Leaf Green (N - 70, meta - 81), etc but I'm bored now.
There's more Pokemons too like emerald...
Uh, yes? The site can be very negative about Nintendo.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Obviously it has, but that aside it's not surprising that people who write for a Nintendo-centric website would have a predisposition to enjoy Nintendo's games.
AmaterasuOkami076
Member
Happy with the reviews. Skipped Sticker Star but I'll give this one the benefit of the doubt. Just ordered it from TheGameCollection. Bonus if it manages to come tomorrow but I'm not expecting it to.
Mr. Pointy
Member
I'm glad it's better than Sticker Star. I'm still unsure if I'll pick this up for Wii U. I've lost interest in the system, at least until Pokken gets DLC. Fingers crossed for a NX port I guess.
I still feel that if IntSys are sticking with cards for the next game, they should talk to Monolith Soft about borrowing Baten Kaitos' gameplay.
I still feel that if IntSys are sticking with cards for the next game, they should talk to Monolith Soft about borrowing Baten Kaitos' gameplay.
Umm, isn't that actually will become worst for game types like this where the game is not at all like the older ones? If the fans feel the game is good, it can actually be much better as they are able to beat the high expectation of the fans?
BassForever
Member
Seems like this game is carried by the writing you either let it help you ignore the gameplay issues and end up enjoying it or "its more sticker star" and you don't.
Valkerionseven
Member
Might grab this.
Never played a paper mario so can't get upset about past titles but loving the art style and general enthusiasm by those who enjoyed it. Either will be soon or in a few weeks after beating a few other games first.
Never played a paper mario so can't get upset about past titles but loving the art style and general enthusiasm by those who enjoyed it. Either will be soon or in a few weeks after beating a few other games first.
Reviews have stated that thanks to the new leveling system, battles serve a bit more purpose(essentially growing your available paint resources through levelling, which is also mentioned to be overkill). They also seem to state that the core combat can feel tedious when picking cards from such a massive deck when dealing with constant fodder battles. Everything outside of combat looks great, but this is the one major sticking point for me, as even watching example fights in videos has my interest lowered.
Solid SOAP
Member
I sincerely wish they replaced the combat with something else, or made it more engaging. The game LOOLS beautiful, but it also looks like a chore to play.
Nintendo really take children for dumb-dumb. Why not create something intelligent and believe that the children with understand it.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I'm pumped. Makes me wonder why they didnt just go RPG all the way though. The game seems like they shouldnhave just gone all the way since its kinda useless in its current form. But if the writing is as funny as advertised I'm in.
OniBarubary
Banned
I was agreeing with their point. I don't know why people attempt to discredit or downplay reviews when reviews were never going to change their decision on a game. If I don't want to play it due to X, Y and Z then I simply won't play it and I don't need to justify that based on if it's good or not. It's confusing to me.
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
Sounds like the game is a decent step-up, like how Paper Jam was (in the context of both being successors to Sticker Star in some form). Good for IS I guess, though given the platform and their explicit gameplay direction shift away from the first two games, sales would likely not be as favorable as the reviews.
No, that's not exactly what they did. See the divisive reactions about the forced dual screen control setup; and complaints about the game being another retread of SF64 in terms of content and story.
People didn't complain about Zero being like the first two games. People complained about Zero still screwing things up despite being like the first two games.
No, that's not exactly what they did. See the divisive reactions about the forced dual screen control setup; and complaints about the game being another retread of SF64 in terms of content and story.
People didn't complain about Zero being like the first two games. People complained about Zero still screwing things up despite being like the first two games.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
There's a Watergate reference in Color Splash, that even (allegedly) intelligent people on this very forum didn't understand.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
God that was embarrassing. I'm glad Nintendo reportedly didn't change it at all in the final game
The Paper Mario OT might not be up till tomorrow morning, day of OT. Just FYI.
I can confirm they did not change it.
I can confirm they did not change it.
I'm still on the fence whether I should go with an impulse purchase. Haedox's review made me reconsider my increased excitement for it but GameXplain's review put it back up. Only reason I'm considering not waiting for a price drop is because I could really go for a chill, feel-good game with a lot of heart right now.
PandaShake
Member
Review thread always amazes me with sites I've never heard of.
Writing is very good, but it pisses me off more, now that all treehouse's talents, blood and sweat is nothing more than putting make up on a pig. The writing can't save this game from all these Toads putting on different character hats, sometimes literally.
They could do so much with the old badge system to expand it. Combine badges to form special rare super powered ones. So many new ideas for partners, Sombrero Guy would have been a perfect partner focusing on buffs and debuffs like a bard.
They could do so much with the old badge system to expand it. Combine badges to form special rare super powered ones. So many new ideas for partners, Sombrero Guy would have been a perfect partner focusing on buffs and debuffs like a bard.
Bakkus
Member
No they aren't. There is not a end goal at the furthest right on every level. The tree in Boggly Woods and Castle in Petal Meadows are at the center and beginning in their worlds respectively, The castle at the end of Twilight Trail is not linear at all, neither is Keelhaul Key, which is actually more like a Zelda dungeon.
Again, all your examples only takes a few minutes to do. It's close to a non issue. It's also really misleading to say it's seven times in chapter 4 since you're then implying it's seven times both ways. Chapter 3, 6 and 7 plus of course 8, has nothing of this "few minutes of severe gameplay frustration" so you can't say that's how the whole game is structured.
It's not an interconnected world, when you can freely travel from the first to the last level by just moving a few spots on the world map. Is Super Mario World also interconnected in your opinion? Because that's what that pic reminds me of (actually it reminds me of a mix of that and Spirit Tracks, lol). Certainly far from what TTYD gave us in terms of effort. It doesn't really matter to me. I'm never gonna pay a dime for this game, due to me then contributing to sales of a game which takes a direction i'm infuriated over.
Kind of hard to sympathize with the world map/"interconnectedness" complaint when the least interesting parts of Paper Mario TTYD was all the downtime you spent between the chapters getting to places through means you've already found yourself repeating. Love TTYD but sidequesting becomes such a chore for me in that game. Considering the warp zone in the sewers I'd much rather have Color Splash's map or even a specific warp to accommodate me wanting to get from one point to another quickly. Even Super Paper Mario opted to move towards that kind of setup, despite it being moreso a necessity due to the shift in playstyle.
When the level to level moments interconnect as you'd expect of the game, criticizing a map seems completely pointless to me when it adds practicality in bursts if you want to go back to the town or stock up on something elsewhere.
Well... yes. I don't see how it isn't.
When the level to level moments interconnect as you'd expect of the game, criticizing a map seems completely pointless to me when it adds practicality in bursts if you want to go back to the town or stock up on something elsewhere.
Well... yes. I don't see how it isn't.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
Now you're just hoping for the game to be bad in every way to justify your hate for it.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Big fan of TTYD too, but I agree with everything you're saying. Yeah, those sewers weren't exactly fun...
Green Mamba
Member
TTYD's interconnectedness was definitely a step down from PM64 but I'd take it any day of the week over the level based segmentation the series went down immediately afterwards.
Bakkus
Member
I'm guessing Metroid and Metroidvania games are not for you? Because what you're describing is a norm in any non streamlined game. Zelda does this, every classical JRPG does this. I'm in actual shock. You're acting like this sort of thing isn't common in the vast majority of every Action-Adventure game and RPG game ever made, heck, every game you're given free movement of features this. And TTYD is far from the worst "offender" of this. It only adds to the experience. Having everything being divided by levels in an adventure game only weakens the experience for me, it has no positives. Practicality? I call it laziness. The "downtime" between chapters was one of if not my favorite aspect of the game.
Level selection can not be considered interconnected under any circumstance in my opinion.
Franchuzas87
Member
I wrote a review on a Spanish site: Meristation (8,7)
I wasn't the biggest fan of Sticker Star. I think it has some good ideas, but sometimes the execution is really flawed, and for the most part lacks the charm of previous Paper Mario. Color Splash is an improvement in every sense, and the second half has some really great moments that would easily fit in a game like The Thousand-Year Door (still my favourite).
I wasn't the biggest fan of Sticker Star. I think it has some good ideas, but sometimes the execution is really flawed, and for the most part lacks the charm of previous Paper Mario. Color Splash is an improvement in every sense, and the second half has some really great moments that would easily fit in a game like The Thousand-Year Door (still my favourite).
The Metroid comparison doesn't really work. I like how it's done in Metroid primarily because Metroid is a game that actively gives you ways and methods to mitigate backtracking through it's design philosophy. Sometimes it will be shortcuts from bosses/powerups that lead you back to a central path so you have a better idea of where to go next. Sometimes it will be through additional pickups and collectibles which you can now attain with the help of a new ability you've gained. Sometimes it will be through fun new ways you can use the environment to experiment with your new abilities. Not only that but Metroid also rewards hindsight once you realize a new powerup might be just what you need to get over a certain obstacle you couldn't do before. It constantly gives you options and opportunities while progressing and is part of the reason the whole game's design philosophies have become an amazing thing to analyze. This isn't really prevalent in TTYD since it doesn't have any way to make the backtracking elements any interesting, most of the time it's a matter of retreading familiar ground to reach a destination, and while being at that point might be fun, the journey itself becomes a fairly tedious one a lot of the time.
Zelda is also a poor comparison because that is a game that has given the player plenty of options throughout the years to skip back to worlds and areas you've been to, so that kinda defeats your point entirely.