I enjoyed Victoria 2 quite a bit but honestly haven't even tried Vicky 3. Have high hopes for EU5 though, they seem to focus on the conquering which is as it should be with interesting new mechanics to that end.
Why, what did they wrong?
I'd say EU4 is the least complex and easiest to get into when it comes to Paradox's grand strategy game. Give it a go!
Has CIV7 been released already?
Yes, and it's been underperforming.
Released it in a shitty, unfinished state and then left it to rot after it didn't sell well.
I see. No wonder I haven't heard about it.
Nah, that would be probably CKIII or Stellaris. EU IV can be deceptively difficult. That said it's a great game and definitely worth learning.
Imperator 2.0 plus Invictus is overall a great game. Paradox even patched it up more recently.
Vicky 3 is divisive. It released in a fairly bad state from perspective of differentiation between countries and absolutely terrible warfare system.
Yeah, I love Crusader Kings. Most probably under my Top10 games of all time. But I could never really get into Victoria, EU and HOI (didnt tried very hard...mind you). Also never understood where the differences were between these three games. They all seem to be very similiar on first look.
I am actually fine with no more DLC, since I think their DLC-business model is ass. And yeah, 2.0 patched some things up after a long time of nothing. But essentially, it's up to fan mods if you want to play it in a good state...
Because without Paradox...the grand strategy genre would be in a very awful state? I hate their DLC politics as well, but they have some very cool and unique games in their portfolio and there is not much alternatives.
HOI is mostly a war game basically. Fronts, different units, military research focus, more complex supply chains, and so on. All focused on WWII.
. People didn't buy it. Paradox has to cut their losses at some point. I agree that they probably cut out too early but the game is quite good in a state it is.
Base game EU4 is easier to get into than CK3 I'd say. Stellaris is the easiest but since it's not traditional map painting but Sci-fi i don't count it. I agree, EU5 looks to have way more complicated systems than EU4.
I agree, seems like EU5 is a mix of the more complex economic systems of Vicky and the warfare in EU.
Well, luckily for them, they've got enough diehards who will buy anything they put out, so I don't see Paradox going out of business anytime soon. But for me, the argument of "because they're the only ones doing this type of product" is not good enough. But I genuinely wish everyone a good time with EU5.
There's tonnes of them on youtube. Everyone with preview access seem to have been allowed to post 30 min of gameplay.
That was shameless. It could have been a contender but they saw the work needed and said "We're good."
www.metacritic.com
If you can stomach waiting for a year or so, I would do that. But I can understand if you want to play it right now. It seems to be in a better state than many others of Paradox' games were at launch.EU5 is gettin stellar reviews, but i'm thinking of trying EU4 first and wait until EU5 gets patched and stuff. I'm not in a hurry so i want to play EU4.
Or should i get EU5 what you guys think?
Europa Universalis V Reviews - Metacritic
Use war, trade or diplomacy to satisfy your grandest ambitions and dominate five centuries of history in the newest version of Europa Universalis, Paradox Interactive's flagship historical grand strategy game.
How familiar are you with Grand Strategy? EU IV is a simpler game if it is still quite complex to master. That is especially so if you aren't familiar with the genre.EU5 is gettin stellar reviews, but i'm thinking of trying EU4 first and wait until EU5 gets patched and stuff. I'm not in a hurry so i want to play EU4.
Or should i get EU5 what you guys think?
Europa Universalis V Reviews - Metacritic
Use war, trade or diplomacy to satisfy your grandest ambitions and dominate five centuries of history in the newest version of Europa Universalis, Paradox Interactive's flagship historical grand strategy game.
This should be a much, much better game. Warfare is going to be much better, there seems to be a lot more country flavor, better trade and so on.
I have about 34 hours in Crusader Kings 3 but thats about it.
EU IV is quite a bit more complex vs CK3 and 34 hours in you are in early tutorial stage with EU IV.
From what I have seen , automation is not perfect by any means but seems to be very serviceable.
Yeah, all the Grand Strategy fans seem to like it, but I still think it's safer to wait a few weeks. That's despite EU IV being my most played game of like all times besides maybe WoW.
I'm currently learning EU IV. Will it get intuitive after some time because i'm really struggling with the UI?
Yes… after couple hundred hours it will be alright I think. It's a great game, but note that there are a ton of DLCs and a lot of mods require all or most of them.
I'm learning the game in vanilla state. We'll see if i buy DLCs at all.
Eh, I wouldn't recommend this. Vanilla EU IV is tedious, IMO. You don't need like all the DLCs but at least a few of the major ones should be added.
