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Pearl Jam was on the classic rock station

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Jarnet87 said:
I will quote the great Justin Long in Die hard 12:

"I know what it is. It's OLD rock. That doesn't make it classic. What sucked back then still sucks today."

Pearl Jam suck just as much now as they did back then. Can't stand their music. Pretty soon they'll be playing Green Day and Blink 182 on classic rock stations if they haven't already. I am an old man too.
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Don't put Pearl Jam in with GD and Blink.. holy shit man.. no. Pearl Jam is a legit good band.

DiscoJon said:
It's amazing that the only albums that hold up from the "grunge era" were the Smashing Pumpkins, who weren't a "grunge" band at all.
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I'd argue that Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Pond, Early Foo Fighters and Alice in Chains still holds up as well today as it did back then. Just like a lot of the 80's hair bands are still good today.
 
KLOS in Los Angeles used to play Pearl Jam along side classic rock back in the 90s.

Ten remix is great btw.
 
Heard a Pearl Jam song turned into elevator music. Realized it was "classic rock" now and I was old.

Recently a new tv show called Hindsight came out. Girl "time travels" back to the 1990s to relive her young adult years.... they are making shows about going BACK to the 90s. Like it was a frickin eon ago.

I'm just nwo excepting that the 80s is retro. I'm not ready for the 90s to be.
 
They like to play All Apologies and Black back-to-back at my local Classic Rock station. Which is weird to me, because those definitely aren't the RAWK songs you'd expect them to play from those bands.

All Apologies is one of the greatest songs ever written, and In Utero is Nirvana's best album by a pretty wide margin.
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
You know what Eddie Vedder would say about this?

"Wrrrrrrr I jurst sirrrrd er somether. Errrrrrrrrrrrr in thrrrrrrr."
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Not that I don't love Pearl Jam or anything.
 
Schlep said:
As are Neil Diamond and U2.
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My point was, are people to be expected to drop bands they enjoy just to avoid looking old? I'm kinda assuming here that you were inferring that it is a negative to like the bands you mentioned because otherwise they might give a damn. It just isn't making much sense to me for someone to look old because of this, especially considering that they are still putting out current albums.
 
inm8num2 said:
They're classic in my book, even if they're still jamming. One of my all-time favorites.

Oh, and Binaural is so underrated.
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Let's be friends!

I liked Riot Act and the self-titled album too. They only started to lose me with Backspacer and the new one.

I liked their stranger/leaner music, not the straight rocky stuff. Ten was ok but it was Vs that really got me.
 
crimzonflame said:
I still dont see why Pearl Jam was considered "grunge". Their song "Alive" sounded nothing like a grunge song.
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It's not like grunge started in the 90's.. the pioneers of the genre were doing their thing in the mid to late 80's. ..but it's not even like they were doing it as anti-rock.. it was just what people were playing in the small clubs and bars in the northwest at the time.. mainstream is the one who picked them up and made it a genre when really it was just garage rock.

There was a lot more to grunge than distortion and angst. Yet that's how people tried to classify it then and remember today.. and it was never true.

Of course I live in Portland, and was in high-school during its rise.. I remember seeing bands like Pond, Everclear, Hazel, Mudhoney, Heatmiser (Elliot Smith's band) and the like back in the day before any of them had success... well.. only Everclear and Elliot Smith had success to be honest.. but Everclear was fantastic when the got started.. and watching some of Elliot Smith's first acoustic shows in coffee shops was amazing.. saw him and Pete Krebs once. I saw Weezer in a record shop doing a free show.

BTW, Elliot Smith in a small coffee shop with like 15 people. He was one of the most gripping singer songwriters of all time.
 
Hollywood Duo said:
It's obviously all about demographics. Most people just want to hear the same shit on repeat, so when they stop getting what they want on their normal station it has to transition somewhere else or the people become so old they die. The circle of life.
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Its so annoying though.

They have 50 years of rock to choose from, tens of thousands of songs.

STOP PLAYING THE SAME METALLICA SONG

Whats worse is that the "new rock" and "modern alternative" stations ALSO play the same Metallica song.

IT CANT BE NEW AND CLASSIC AT THE SAME TIME.

The upside is that now all the classic rock stations have hair metal hours, like House of Hair with Dee Snyder. Too many ads though.



That being said, it shows that the most timeless song of all time is the RHCPs
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That song is nearing 25 years old and sounds just as fresh today it could play on any Top 40 station, modern rock....and classic rock.
 
AdventureMike said:
My point was, are people to be expected to drop bands they enjoy just to avoid looking old? I'm kinda assuming here that you were inferring that it is a negative to like the bands you mentioned because otherwise they might give a damn. It just isn't making much sense to me for someone to look old because of this, especially considering that they are still putting out current albums.
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Liking the music is one thing. Blasting it so everyone hears it takes it to the level of trying to impress people.

For your reference enjoyment, Billy Madison.
 
Classic rock is a terrible way to refer to music. It tells you absolutely nothing except that a song is older than an x amount of years. I've heard Weezer being played on classic rock radio stations for crying out loud.
 
Schlep said:
Liking the music is one thing. Blasting it so everyone hears it takes it to the level of trying to impress people.

For your reference enjoyment, Billy Madison.
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I get what you're saying now, sorry for the misunderstanding. I will say that even listening to your music loudly that others might hear with your windows rolled down (by happenstance, not trying to purposefully make a point) doesn't necessarily equate with the feeling your video is trying to put across. However, if you are indeed seeing people act like that (Dated car, dated clothes, dated music in a complete style package) then yeah, I'm with you.

There is definitely a difference between me having my windows down and having "Ten" on and the guy in the next car might overhear it. Compared with me dressing like I'm straight out of the early 90s grunge era with flannel, blasting it all the way and making a show of it for other's reactions.
 
My hometown "classic rock" station plays shit like Three Days Grace and Nickleback, which is pretty much scrapping the bottom of the barrel as far as I'm concerned
 
sploatee said:
Let's be friends!

I liked Riot Act and the self-titled album too. They only started to lose me with Backspacer and the new one.

I liked their stranger/leaner music, not the straight rocky stuff. Ten was ok but it was Vs that really got me.
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Yea, I love Riot Act, too. I mean, I love everything they've done, though I admit I've been a little out of the loop sinc4 Lightning Bolt.

I thought the 2006 self-titled album was some of the best stuff they've ever done. Inside Job is one of my favorites. I enjoyed Backspacer quite a bit, but perhaps not as much as PJ 2006.

At the risk of making a fool of myself, my favorite PJ song might be one they didn't even write:

Last Kiss
 
NervousXtian said:
It's not like grunge started in the 90's.. the pioneers of the genre were doing their thing in the mid to late 80's. ..but it's not even like they were doing it as anti-rock.. it was just what people were playing in the small clubs and bars in the northwest at the time.. mainstream is the one who picked them up and made it a genre when really it was just garage rock.

There was a lot more to grunge than distortion and angst. Yet that's how people tried to classify it then and remember today.. and it was never true.

Of course I live in Portland, and was in high-school during its rise.. I remember seeing bands like Pond, Everclear, Hazel, Mudhoney, Heatmiser (Elliot Smith's band) and the like back in the day before any of them had success... well.. only Everclear and Elliot Smith had success to be honest.. but Everclear was fantastic when the got started.. and watching some of Elliot Smith's first acoustic shows in coffee shops was amazing.. saw him and Pete Krebs once. I saw Weezer in a record shop doing a free show.

BTW, Elliot Smith in a small coffee shop with like 15 people. He was one of the most gripping singer songwriters of all time.
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I would have loved to see Heatmiser or Elliot Smith live. I remember when he died, a coworker of mine was a friend of his. He told me stories of how amazing he was live, said he used to just play for friends at his house and it was just amazing. I remember him crying about it. What a tragedy.
 
CloudWolf said:
Pearl Jam didn't consider themselves 'grunge' either, just a hard rock band. It's funny, the four big grunge bands (Nirvana, PJ, AiC and Soundgarden) all rejected the term.
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To be accurate Kurt didn't think they were "alternative" - too many guitar solos apparently. He equated them to hair bands.
 
CloudWolf said:
Pearl Jam didn't consider themselves 'grunge' either, just a hard rock band. It's funny, the four big grunge bands (Nirvana, PJ, AiC and Soundgarden) all rejected the term.
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All rejected the term but were perfectly okay with that MTV money and whatever else followed.

It's garbage to think that the "big four" grunge bands were somehow against getting popular and making money. SURPRISE, they weren't.
 
Well Cobain was a bit of a nincumpoop. I enjoy some of Nirvana's music, but dissing Pearl Jam is a bit silly. The actual band members never asked to be labeled anything.. and were embarrassed by both grunge and their occasional label as "heavy metal."
 
DiscoJon said:
All rejected the term but were perfectly okay with that MTV money and whatever else followed.

It's garbage to think that the "big four" grunge bands were somehow against getting popular and making money. SURPRISE, they weren't.
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Well PJ stopped making music videos (let the label release animated ones) and Vedder went on a campaign to try to take down the Ticketmaster monopoly.

Obviously he joined a label put together band and made a lot of money; but the guy did in fact reject the mainstream fairly quickly and just wanted to tour with his band.

I don't see anyone here claiming any band rejected the idea of being popular and making money.
 
Pearl Jam is like some weird folksy Grateful Dead band now that appeals to the Bruce Springsteen crowd. They've become a sort of cult band where fans exchange bootlegs of their shows.

riotous said:
Well Cobain was a bit of a nincumpoop. I enjoy some of Nirvana's music, but dissing Pearl Jam is a bit silly. The actual band members never asked to be labeled anything.. and were embarrassed by both grunge and their occasional label as "heavy metal."
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Apparently they buried the hatchet just before he died.
 
DigitalDevil said:
I would have loved to see Heatmiser or Elliot Smith live. I remember when he died, a coworker of mine was a friend of his. He told me stories of how amazing he was live, said he used to just play for friends at his house and it was just amazing. I remember him crying about it. What a tragedy.
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I was friends with his sister. Elliot had a lot of demons, and if you listened to his music you could hear them. Still, he was one of the most engaging people in person to watch play, he was his music. Sad day when he died, he was a great one.

Heatmiser rocked it live too.. great band.
 
teruterubozu said:
Kurt Cobain didn't. He thought Pearl Jam were a bunch of posers.
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I think they reconciled after that. I've seen interviews with Kurt C where he talks about what a nice guy Eddie Vedder is. I think they also danced together at the MTV awards. I know too much about this! My teenage years, sigh.

inm8num2 said:
Yea, I love Riot Act, too. I mean, I love everything they've done, though I admit I've been a little out of the loop sinc4 Lightning Bolt.

I thought the 2006 self-titled album was some of the best stuff they've ever done. Inside Job is one of my favorites. I enjoyed Backspacer quite a bit, but perhaps not as much as PJ 2006.

At the risk of making a fool of myself, my favorite PJ song might be one they didn't even write:

Last Kiss
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Oooooh. I like Inside Job too.

I think my favourite is In My Tree. Absolutely love that song.
 
DigitalDevil said:
I would have loved to see Heatmiser or Elliot Smith live. I remember when he died, a coworker of mine was a friend of his. He told me stories of how amazing he was live, said he used to just play for friends at his house and it was just amazing. I remember him crying about it. What a tragedy.
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Elliot is my favorite singer/songwriter ever. I know it's cliched but his music really spoke to me.
 
90s Rock, Alt Rock, Alt Metal and Metal is where is at

-Tool
-Soundgarden
-Pantera
-Rage Against the Machine
-Pearl Jam
-Faith No More
-Korn
-Deftones
-Incubus
-Foo Fighters
-Nirvana
-Alice In Chains
-Smashing Pumpkins
-Marilyn Manson
-White Zombie
-Fear Factory
-Cypress Hill
-Slipknot
-The Offspring
-Green Day


Jesus!!!!!
 
the first classic rock stations played music that was 10-15 years old at the time, so that makes a lot of things classic rock now.
 
Pandaman said:
the first classic rock stations played music that was 10-15 years old at the time, so that makes a lot of things classic rock now.
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Being 10-15 years old doesn't make you a classic; having music that's lasting and worth listening to 10-15 years later sort of proves it classic though.

It's why Limp Bizkit probably never should be on classic rock stations.

It's hard to think up many bands from 10-15 years ago that are truly "classic"... music and pop culture moves a lot faster than it did in the past.
 
My dad's music kicked ass and when I have children they'll think my music kicks ass.

Yeah, dad rock is the shit. Get that post-00's pop crap outta my face.
 
The biggest classic rock station in my area has been playing Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Nirvana, etc. for years now. And it did make me feel quite old.
 
Fittingly the biggest classic rock station in Seattle doesn't play grunge in regular rotation that I'm aware of.. I think they do have "90s" segments:

http://kzok.cbslocal.com/playlist/

Likely due to the fact that the biggest alt-rock station that basically debuted with the Ten album still plays music from that era quite regularly.
 
DiscoJon said:
All rejected the term but were perfectly okay with that MTV money and whatever else followed.

It's garbage to think that the "big four" grunge bands were somehow against getting popular and making money. SURPRISE, they weren't.
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Of course they weren't against getting popular. I don't think I even implied that in my post. People that claim they were pissed off by popularity are often misguided fans that scream 'SELLOUT' as soon as a band does something that gets them money.

sploatee said:
I think they reconciled after that. I've seen interviews with Kurt C where he talks about what a nice guy Eddie Vedder is. I think they also danced together at the MTV awards. I know too much about this! My teenage years, sigh.
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Yeah, the story goes that Eddie called Cobain to ask him what was up with the hate and pointed out that most of the people that listen to Nirvana also listen to Pearl Jam and vice versa. After that, Cobain realized how silly the feud was and the bands became friends.

I was once at a festival where Alice in Chains, Them Crooked Vultures and Pearl Jam played on the same day. At the end of PJ's set Eddie called Jerry Cantrell and Dave Grohl on stage and they started playing a song together. There's no bad blood between any of them.
Also, during the Them Crooked Vultures concert Grohl almost fell off his drum stool from laughter because apparently Cantrell flashed him from backstage.
 
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