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Pentagon training manual: white males have unfair advantages

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I don't know how that's controversial. I was nodding in understand while reading it, like some bad ass veteran told me, "sit down kid let me talk you about life".
 
My frustrations online is not so much if certain controversial policies like AA are accepted or not, but the notion that structural racism is somehow non existent in the US, which many in the dominant society believe. "But we elected a Black President!"

And that myth is usually believed by those who will never be victims of structural racism. If you're part of the dominant society in any culture, you'll be blind to any racism.
 
Telling some Hispanic kid how privileged he is that he doesn't face racism and is part of an elite club and how to be a great white ally is sure gonna help fix race relations.
 
Wow. This is amazingly honest and direct. I'm pretty impressed. Now if only everyone can be taught to understand what is actually being said here, and positively embrace the message, the world would be a better place instantly.

Will never happen, people are too self centered, I'm not above it either, and most people aren't.


If I had a shitty life I would be sick and fucking tired about how privileged I am for being a white/straight/male. Since my life is pretty awesome I don't mind hearing that reality.
 
Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power? Give me one good reason that does not include illusions like "fair" or "right and wrong". Fair is something losers complain about when they've lost. If you're not powerful, get some willpower and make yourself powerful. Unearned power my ass, your forefathers earned that power and you inherited it because you are of their people. That's what people do, they try to make their own group succeed. I don't see it as Caucasian people's fault that other ethnic and cultural groups can't get their shit together. Even though from where I'm sitting across an ocean, Jews and the East-Asian people seem to be doing excellently. It's just a matter of finding your place in the sun and not letting others get you down. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve shit because clearly you're not strong enough to take it.

As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.
bruh, could you please spare some change so I can buy some bootstraps? cause I don't have enough for your post.
 
Sounds like PR lip service to get even more Minorities to sign away their rights and life in order to further the advance of White male privilege through it's largest weapon(THE US Military) .

You want to see an unfair advantage in person? Go to the area around the pentagon and see who makes up the GS-14-SES scale positions, and then look who makes up the lowly gs-7 and below. Yeah, the US military is the most classist,racist, and morally bankrupt institution in this nation.
Or you would look at the real military pay grades...

Nah. Let's look at the civilians in the pentagon.
 
The fact that people deny that being a healthy white heterosexual male comes with a fucking ton of unearned privilege actually makes me angry. And I'm speaking as a healthy white heterosexual male. It's an infuriatingly dishonest worldview.

Good on the military for getting honest with it.
 
If there were 10 people going for a promotion and had to take a test, and received a handicap based on race, gender, age, health, religion etc, how many points is being muslim worth? What about being atheist? How are you supposed to determine if someone is muslim or atheist without asking? Should you even ask those questions if you're trying to promote equal opportunity?
I think the gist of this is my issue. I like trying to encourage people to diversify their considerations, to really have them ask themselves if things like race, sex and sexuality impact their decisions. But when it comes to things like... points the more of a minority you are? I don't know, that makes me uncomfortable. But as far as I know, that doesn't actually happen right?
 
Every time I think I've read the dumbest post on GAF. There's always that one special chucklefuck who just makes everyone else seem like Mensa members.

I don't even want to engage in discussion with someone so dumb, like this entire post is white privilege encapsulated. Like this shit is white privilege ambered like that mosquito from Jurassic Park. This shit is so white privileged even other white people feel like minorities. This is like some Stormfront type shit. Like this is the kind of post that anti-Americans look towards to prove how sinful we are. Like this is the kind of speech someone gives troops before they're about to go slaughter an entire ethnic group and shit. Like this is some watching your mom get smacked at the dinner table type shit. Like this is the kind of shit that makes people give up on humanity on some spiritual level and shit. Like this summons the same feelings you got when you watched Macaulay Culkin drown his sister in The Good Son yo.


I literally said goddamn.
 
I truly wish the Pentagon and the DEOMI would return my telephone calls. IÂ’d like to know how teaching soldiers, airmen and sailors about white privilege and fomenting racial division helps them protect our nation from the enemy.

Bwahaha, I love how the writer and the unnamed military guy are super scared of people being taught what white privilege is.
 
Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power? Give me one good reason that does not include illusions like "fair" or "right and wrong". Fair is something losers complain about when they've lost. If you're not powerful, get some willpower and make yourself powerful. Unearned power my ass, your forefathers earned that power and you inherited it because you are of their people. That's what people do, they try to make their own group succeed. I don't see it as Caucasian people's fault that other ethnic and cultural groups can't get their shit together. Even though from where I'm sitting across an ocean, Jews and the East-Asian people seem to be doing excellently. It's just a matter of finding your place in the sun and not letting others get you down. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve shit because clearly you're not strong enough to take it.

As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.

Atleast you are talking straight instead of trying to pretend you are upholding some type of ideal and say a bunch of hypocritical things that expose how you really feel.


Let's first examine who made this report. It's the pentagon. An administration who's sole objective can be summed up as to retain and expand the power of the USA.

One could argue they are taking a long term stance that since this is a country of immigrants they need to prevent any form of social unrest in their own way by promoting acknowledgement and acceptance of other immigrant groups that came after the original settlers. It can also be argued that if they fail hard at integrating various ethnic groups they will be less capable of tackling their known and potential foreign enemies in the future because they lack the personnel that would have additional insight or who would have access to contacts in those foreign countries.


Let's now ignore this is the pentagon and think about what we are as a country. When we went into a civil war we did so because it was with the full intent of ensuring various dipshits couldn't leave the union and weaken our overall strength. After the Union defeated the Confederates we botched the reconstruction process and to this day those states remain among the poorest in the country even beating out some of less populated landlocked western states.The only thing that has changed recently is that they have now become the fastest economically growing bloc but are still among the most dependent for government assistance.

Should we suddenly abandon the south because they are weak and have been weak because our ancestors fucked up Reconstruction? No we shouldn't no more than we shouldn't abandon ethnic groups that have been put a historical disadvantage and still need time to assert themselves in society.

If you actually were a man of history you would know that black institutions that were meant to bring us together were quickly squashed by corporate powers as well as various laws erected after the war to keep social mobility and economic power in check. Our country has transformed itself into being a lot more humanitarian. Ask the Japanese.

You are now living in a time when we can assert ourselves more economically as group so you are the one who has to tough it out and deal with it.
 
The majority of Hispanics in the US are white.

The training manual is obviously not referring to them, as they don't have the same privileges as non-Hispanic white males. Do people think this is literally just a "skin colour" thing, rather than a cultural background thing?
 
Bwahaha, I love how the writer and the unnamed military guy are super scared of people being taught what white privilege is.

Well sure, it can benefit many people and genuinely help some, but it is almost guaranteed to create huge rifts between certain people as well. It is not outside the realm of possibility for many minorities to see this and then take out their anger on white soldiers who have done absolutely nothing wrong - besides being white. That is why releasing this information could cause problems, even if it should already be out there.
 
Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power? Give me one good reason that does not include illusions like "fair" or "right and wrong". Fair is something losers complain about when they've lost. If you're not powerful, get some willpower and make yourself powerful. Unearned power my ass, your forefathers earned that power and you inherited it because you are of their people. That's what people do, they try to make their own group succeed. I don't see it as Caucasian people's fault that other ethnic and cultural groups can't get their shit together. Even though from where I'm sitting across an ocean, Jews and the East-Asian people seem to be doing excellently. It's just a matter of finding your place in the sun and not letting others get you down. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve shit because clearly you're not strong enough to take it.

As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.

You're a gem.

That was nicely done!

lol. Spuit may have the best troll of the weekend. He'll probably be quoted 40 times before people pick up on it.

Joke post?
The US army is doing this to curb racism within its own ranks. Soldiers come from all over the country and may have been raised with racist attitudes or backgrounds. A military that is divided isn't as strong as one that is united, and they can't have Billy Bob from bumblefuck nowhere and his dimwitted clique thinking their attitudes and behavior is acceptable in the military.

What part of "[he does] not look forward to your replies" was unclear?

He typed the post, he closed his laptop. He's enjoying a Coors Light right now while listening to Wagner.

Let him have this.

honestly can't tell with Spuit.

so, well-played?

No, it's not "well-played"; this isn't a game. fuck that "just joking" trolling. Keep the astrolad copycats in the game and cellphone threads.
 
The training manual is obviously not referring to them, as they don't have the same privileges as non-Hispanic white males. Do people think this is literally just a "skin colour" thing, rather than a cultural background thing?
It's also about perception. White Hispanics would be lumped in with Caucasians in cases of human error. And then they would be less likely to get that job that requires diversity, unless they start playing up aspects of themselves that have nothing to do with being good at the job, but may make them appear less white.
 
The training manual is obviously not referring to them, as they don't have the same privileges as non-Hispanic white males. Do people think this is literally just a "skin colour" thing, rather than a cultural background thing?
How is it not obviously not referring to them when directly referring to them? What privileges do Hispanic white males lack that all other white males have.
 
The military concludes the section by urging students to “understand and learn from the history of whiteness and racism” and “support the leadership of people of color.”

This is great material for tea party-conspiracy theories and whatnot.
 
As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.

Nice one!

Cultural Marxism, huh. You draw inspiration from some very level-headed people.

Every time I think I've read the dumbest post on GAF. There's always that one special chucklefuck who just makes everyone else seem like Mensa members.

I don't even want to engage in discussion with someone so dumb, like this entire post is white privilege encapsulated. Like this shit is white privilege ambered like that mosquito from Jurassic Park. This shit is so white privileged even other white people feel like minorities. This is like some Stormfront type shit. Like this is the kind of post that anti-Americans look towards to prove how sinful we are. Like this is the kind of speech someone gives troops before they're about to go slaughter an entire ethnic group and shit. Like this is some watching your mom get smacked at the dinner table type shit. Like this is the kind of shit that makes people give up on humanity on some spiritual level and shit. Like this summons the same feelings you got when you watched Macaulay Culkin drown his sister in The Good Son yo.

Hahahahaha #deadddd
 
I have always thought that the military was very socialist in it's core values.

It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

If you know anything about the military and anything about history, you would understand that the military by its nature is progressively socialist and always has been out of necessity. I'd imagine that most of the average people in the military do not even notice it as being so. It is an irony that it does attract some of the most conservative people though.
 
The training manual is obviously not referring to them, as they don't have the same privileges as non-Hispanic white males. Do people think this is literally just a "skin colour" thing, rather than a cultural background thing?
Would Marco Rubio get the same shit as Cesar Chavez though?
 
I'd like to commend spuit*11 for putting out some of the most brilliant trolling I've seen since Astrolad's finest.

Good going, sir. Good going.
 
The military concludes the section by urging students to “understand and learn from the history of whiteness and racism” and “support the leadership of people of color.”
I have to admit that this rubs me a little bit the wrong way. Not only is there an implication that whiteness and racism are paired but it also is suggesting that much of history has something to do with whiteness. I don't think that's the case. There's nothing inherent to being white that caused what happened in the past. At least nothing that isn't inherent to other races as well such as preference for in groups and such. No, it's the simple fact that they were in power and in the majority. Once you have power, you don't want to give it up. And I contend that's not a trait exclusive to whites.

Also, supporting the leadership of people of color seems off to me too. Shouldn't people in the military be supporting their leaders regardless of color (unless the leader tells them to do something they shouldn't)? It seems to me that the goal is to get to a point where we don't give a flying fuck what race a person is. Hopefully someday that will be as unremarkable a fact about a person as his/her eye color. I'm not sure that focusing heavily on race is a way to get there. Not that we should (currently) entirely ignore it either, mind.

Last, what about other forms of privilege? After all, it's demonstrably the case that tall people get hired and promoted more than shorter people. The same goes for attractive people. I know I have a natural advantage in most fields because I'm 6'4". Should I feel bad about that privilege? Should we do something to correct for my unfair advantage?
 
Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power? Give me one good reason that does not include illusions like "fair" or "right and wrong". Fair is something losers complain about when they've lost. If you're not powerful, get some willpower and make yourself powerful. Unearned power my ass, your forefathers earned that power and you inherited it because you are of their people. That's what people do, they try to make their own group succeed. I don't see it as Caucasian people's fault that other ethnic and cultural groups can't get their shit together. Even though from where I'm sitting across an ocean, Jews and the East-Asian people seem to be doing excellently. It's just a matter of finding your place in the sun and not letting others get you down. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve shit because clearly you're not strong enough to take it.

As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.

This remind me a lot of what a friend of mine once told me:
"Racism is something that non-whites invented to make white guys guilty for winning in history"
 
Every time I think I've read the dumbest post on GAF. There's always that one special chucklefuck who just makes everyone else seem like Mensa members.

I don't even want to engage in discussion with someone so dumb, like this entire post is white privilege encapsulated. Like this shit is white privilege ambered like that mosquito from Jurassic Park. This shit is so white privileged even other white people feel like minorities. This is like some Stormfront type shit. Like this is the kind of post that anti-Americans look towards to prove how sinful we are. Like this is the kind of speech someone gives troops before they're about to go slaughter an entire ethnic group and shit. Like this is some watching your mom get smacked at the dinner table type shit. Like this is the kind of shit that makes people give up on humanity on some spiritual level and shit. Like this summons the same feelings you got when you watched Macaulay Culkin drown his sister in The Good Son yo.


I came out from behind the shadows to quote this. My man. respect.gif
 
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I assumed that was a troll/sarcasm post, there's too much flair and description in it. It has some signs it could be serious, but I'm not sure.

Don't forget the old favourite of CULTURAL MARXISM
 
lol. Spuit may have the best troll of the weekend. He'll probably be quoted 40 times before people pick up on it.


Seems he spends most of his time on Gaming side. This is his first post on OT in months, it seems, so can't be completely sure. Troll, or 'controversial troll'.

I guess that's one way to get some publicity.

Can't wait for the social justice warriors to show up and tell us to check our privileges.
 
seriously though, i need a copy of the full document.

Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power? Give me one good reason that does not include illusions like "fair" or "right and wrong". Fair is something losers complain about when they've lost. If you're not powerful, get some willpower and make yourself powerful. Unearned power my ass, your forefathers earned that power and you inherited it because you are of their people. That's what people do, they try to make their own group succeed. I don't see it as Caucasian people's fault that other ethnic and cultural groups can't get their shit together. Even though from where I'm sitting across an ocean, Jews and the East-Asian people seem to be doing excellently. It's just a matter of finding your place in the sun and not letting others get you down. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve shit because clearly you're not strong enough to take it.

As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.
oh! i get it! SARCASM!
 
Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power? Give me one good reason that does not include illusions like "fair" or "right and wrong". Fair is something losers complain about when they've lost. If you're not powerful, get some willpower and make yourself powerful. Unearned power my ass, your forefathers earned that power and you inherited it because you are of their people. That's what people do, they try to make their own group succeed. I don't see it as Caucasian people's fault that other ethnic and cultural groups can't get their shit together. Even though from where I'm sitting across an ocean, Jews and the East-Asian people seem to be doing excellently. It's just a matter of finding your place in the sun and not letting others get you down. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve shit because clearly you're not strong enough to take it.

As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.



I stopped reading after "why would white people give up power? "

Trash mindset, and you shame your ancestors and your future descendants.
 
Yep, life is good. It's unfair and lame.

I recently thought about what I would do if I had a kid with a minority lady. I wouldn't know what the fuck to tell it. Sorry to "minority" GAF :(
 
Every time I think I've read the dumbest post on GAF. There's always that one special chucklefuck who just makes everyone else seem like Mensa members.

I don't even want to engage in discussion with someone so dumb, like this entire post is white privilege encapsulated. Like this shit is white privilege ambered like that mosquito from Jurassic Park. This shit is so white privileged even other white people feel like minorities. This is like some Stormfront type shit. Like this is the kind of post that anti-Americans look towards to prove how sinful we are. Like this is the kind of speech someone gives troops before they're about to go slaughter an entire ethnic group and shit. Like this is some watching your mom get smacked at the dinner table type shit. Like this is the kind of shit that makes people give up on humanity on some spiritual level and shit. Like this summons the same feelings you got when you watched Macaulay Culkin drown his sister in The Good Son yo.

I would disagree, because it does not simply include it, it transcends it beyond anything we've ever faced before. Its origins are an entirely separate universe. One far from any shred of human values. It does not care of human equality. It cares not for love, friendship, peace, prosperity, cooperation, or any kind of human progress. No. It breeds and grows its disgusting slithering presence only through limitless personal gain, indoctrination in selfishness, domination, subjugation and oppression.

We SHUN IT. I cast out thy darkness! BEGONE! DEMON, BEGONE!
 
Most of that is VERY accurate and on-point.

However, "political correctness", as a concept, encompasses much more than white males lashing out at a loss of privilege, as its coining accurately captured a natural human tendency, not just a temporal one. So I'll rail against PC silliness when I see it, nevertheless.
 
Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power? Give me one good reason that does not include illusions like "fair" or "right and wrong". Fair is something losers complain about when they've lost. If you're not powerful, get some willpower and make yourself powerful. Unearned power my ass, your forefathers earned that power and you inherited it because you are of their people. That's what people do, they try to make their own group succeed. I don't see it as Caucasian people's fault that other ethnic and cultural groups can't get their shit together. Even though from where I'm sitting across an ocean, Jews and the East-Asian people seem to be doing excellently. It's just a matter of finding your place in the sun and not letting others get you down. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve shit because clearly you're not strong enough to take it.

As far as taking power from powerful people goes this is probably the most subversive and underhanded way of going about it. If you want power, word hard and become powerful as a collective. It's extremely disconcerting that this cultural Marxism has infiltrated, and is now so openly being promoted in, one of the US' most vital institutions.

I do not look forward to your replies.

Haha, this is awesome!
 
Weaksauce shit from the US as per usual.

Why would white people give up their power?

Would or should? Maybe they don't want to but absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they've had a long time to let things sit, stew and corrupt. They're doing a bad job and only benefiting themselves off the higher positions they gained on the backs of others. If we don't try to make room for a civil fairness then would it be "wrong" and "unfair" for the poorer, racial and culturally disadvantaged classes to mob together and forcefully take their power? What if they did a better job, distributed wealth and policies in a way that allows civil competition where things are merit based? Funny how the view of right/wrong and fair/unfair is so grey depending on which side of the spectrum you were born into.
 
spuit*11, boy - gotta give it to you, you sure wield your inferior racist POS view like a champ there.

I'm really glad you posted it out loud there, that all the likes of you do is piggy back past achievement/wealth/accomplishment with nary a single effort of your own and call it day, and still berate others who do not have the same luxury as they try to scale the mountaintop of privilege brought down by your forefathers.
 
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