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[Salty Popsicle]

Framerate isn't though.

No Man's Sky was a buggy unoptimized mess for well over two years before it started getting set on the right track with constant updates and becoming multiplatform. Why are you comparing a game that's had over 5 years of updates to one that is approximately 1 year away from release?

 

[Alebrije]

Well , if Starfield releases with te usual Bethesda's glitches , yes it can be compared to NMS relase Game.

Also the trailer looked basically like a NMS gameplay but with diferente art style, Even the beam mining gun is a copy of the one on NMS , sounded similar. But I Guess Staefield Will have story and a goal besidew going free around space

 

[Based Department]

No man's sky is too cartoonish to be compared to Starfield

 

[Negotiator101]

For now i think Starfield looks better since it also contains loads of handcrafted stuff as well as stronger rpg elements.
However, we can't say much atm since not that much is known about how this game plays yet.

It's Bethesda mate, they are literally the upper echelon of developers. To even mention No Mans Sky in the same breath is a massive disservice to what Bethesda have created.

 

[bender]

I'm not sure how anyone could think otherwise.

I think the bigger issue is people taking offense to the comparison. People like Fallout. People like No Man's Sky.

 

[Calverz]

Your poll divides the no vote into 3. Clever op
There is no comparison.

 

[Guilty_AI]

It's Bethesda mate, they are literally the upper echelon of developers. To even mention No Mans Sky in the same breath is a massive disservice to what Bethesda have created.

*were
This is the post Fallout 76 bethesda era, screwing up isn't out of the board

 

[Negotiator101]

*were
This is the post Fallout 76 bethesda era, screwing up isn't out of the board

Are you serious? This is the game they've been working on since Skyrim, this is the game of next year regardless what else releases. I expect nothing less than a masterpiece and GOTG, No mans sky is not even close in any way. Its like comparing bread from the local bakery to the Du Pain et des idees in Paris.

 

[TBiddy]

Unless there’s something worthwhile there I probably won’t. And with so many people evidently having the same feeling as me, this’ll end up being a commercial bomba.

But who am I kidding? I already paid for it through gamepass.

I love how people like you (who obviously has absolutely no bias or agenda, right?) think that a few threads on gaming forums have any bearing on how a game will do.

 

[Starfield]

As Ive always said, its more comparable to a (better) single player version of Star Citizen

 

[RoadHazard]

Are you serious? This is the game they've been working on since Skyrim, this is the game of next year regardless what else releases. I expect nothing less than a masterpiece and GOTG, No mans sky is not even close in any way. Its like comparing bread from the local bakery to the Du Pain et des idees in Paris.

Fallout 4?

 

[Guilty_AI]

Are you serious? This is the game they've been working on since Skyrim, this is the game of next year regardless what else releases. I expect nothing less than a masterpiece and GOTG, No mans sky is not even close in any way. Its like comparing bread from the local bakery to the Du Pain et des idees in Paris.

Big words for a game that hasn't even come out yet. I'll reserve my judgement for when its on the publics hands.

 

[mckmas8808]

I think the bigger issue is people taking offense to the comparison. People like Fallout. People like No Man's Sky.

 

[Mr.ODST]

If you watched the whole 95 mins of that MS show that’s basically what you got - I couldn’t tell one indie shooter game from the next for most of it …

Either your blind or you have one brain cell ..

 

[Negotiator101]

Fallout 4?

Always one with the Fallout, actually Fallout 4 wasn't too bad 76 was the shit one.

 

[RoadHazard]

Always one with the Fallout, actually Fallout 4 wasn't too bad 76 was the shit one.

I meant it came after Skyrim.

 

[SamaelSavage]

How should barren planet look like in your opinion, or moon?

Why show a barren planet or a moon in your first gameplay reveal of the most anticipated game ever™ when you've got a thousand other planets?

WOOOORLD PREMIEEEEEEEREEE

 

[Camreezie]

Its got thematic similarities and comes from a shady developer who make lofty promises. Id say its apt lol

 

[Hitchyhero]

Can't really answer this as they are obviously quite similar AND different.

I enjoyed NMS a decent amount and they really did improve it with every expansion.... but it's overall a sandbox games with some guidance. There's hardly any story unless you really look for it. There's multilayer but the games and worlds don't feel lived in.

At least with Starfield there will be NPCs that will walk, talk, have a routine. There will be places that feel lived in. NMS had none of that.

 

[Mercador]

No Man's Sky was a buggy unoptimized mess for well over two years before it started getting set on the right track with constant updates and becoming multiplatform. Why are you comparing a game that's had over 5 years of updates to one that is approximately 1 year away from release?

I played NMS release at launch for 3-4 days and it was far from what the guy hyped, resold it. But it wasn't 15-20fps as we see in the gameplay video yesterday. Even if we are one year to release, Bethesda is using the same damn engine. No wonders we saw a barren planet as a demo. I really hope I'm wrong, trust me, I'm a real Beth fan since Morrowind but they really need for a better engine. No matters how big or how many planets there will be, if it runs this badly on XSX, people will be frustrated.

 

[MightySquirrel]

This thread should be renamed to "Starfield fans are offended by comparison with No Man's Sky"

As they should be considering how terribly bad and bland NMS is. That's the whole point of this trolling coming from certain side who pretends to adore that tripe.

 

[Fake]

No Mans Sky Rimake

No Mans Sky part 2.

 

[Sosokrates]

This is like comparing doom with half life 2, yeah they are both FPS games, yes they both have guns and shooting. But only an idiot would say these games are similar.

Starfield will have a rich narrative heavy 25-30hr story, plus hours of rich side quests, no man sky dont have anything like that apart from simple text based story with no speaking characters.

This is as dumb as the people who do shit like this:

 

[bitbydeath]

As Ive always said, its more comparable to a (better) single player version of Star Citizen

Star Citizen is worse than NMS, way to lower the bar.

 

[SF Kosmo]

They have no more in common than like, Conan Exiles and ESO. Starfield is a story heavy RPG. There might be some similarities in basic mechanics but it's a totally different gameplay loop.

 

[Sosokrates]

They have no more in common than like, Conan Exiles and ESO. Starfield is a story heavy RPG. There might be some similarities in basic mechanics but it's a totally different gameplay loop.

Its like comparing the matrix UE5 demo with GTA5, its a complete troll.

I actually had more fun with the matrix demo then no mans sky.

 

[Lupin25]

Its like comparing the matrix UE5 demo with GTA5, its a complete troll.

I actually had more fun with the matrix demo then no mans sky.

You had more fun in the UE5 demo than GTA 5? Lmaooo

 

[Pelta88]

I figure this is important to take note of in this discussion.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Its like comparing the matrix UE5 demo with GTA5, its a complete troll.

I actually had more fun with the matrix demo then no mans sky.

NMS has developed into a decent enough game but it's still like this "make your own goal" open survival kind of thing.

 

[Sosokrates]

You had more fun in the UE5 demo than GTA 5? Lmaooo

Learn to read. Lmao.

 

[Sosokrates]

NMS has developed into a decent enough game but it's still like this "make your own goal" open survival kind of thing.

Yeah there are people that are into that kinda thing. But its beyond the point, the point is its a stupid comparison. It reminds me of this nonsense:

though I imagine the people pushing this comparison were probably crying about the sony one

They are both just wrong. Ign probably did it because they were eother to dumb or knew it would rile people up.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Playing Elden Ring and I’m discovering that they ripped off Horizon Zero Dawn with walking climbable towers.

I think they need to remove that harvest minerals gun And Replace it with little drones using little pix axes. Upgradable of course.
All we needed to do is mark the area and the drones would come from the ship while your off killing the locals.
Could even have mini like gaming mechanics where the pirates are hijacking your drones and minerals and you need to upgrade them with weapons or weapon escort drones.
Just anything but that NMS mining gun.

 

[Soleil rouge]

Two completely different philosophies in game design. Even after a million updates, NMS still feels like a small indy game. It's a soulless, repetitive, grind fest of a game. You can play for a couple of hours and see everything there is to see. Every galaxy/planet/spacestation/interaction is copy and pasted from the one before but with different colors. It becomes obvious surprisingly early and the novelty wears off hard.

Bethesda games are AAA behemoths. It'll be NMS on steroids. A far better comparison is Star Citizen.

 

[OsirisBlack]

The one only thing like NMS was the mining tool.

The mining tool, the space exploration, the base building, the ship building, character customization, a bunch of worlds, crafting, gun fights and space pirates. They share a LOT of similarities, you’d have be Stevie Wonder to not see it, However, there are things that set it apart and still have me hyped for the game.

An actual story with choices, skills and rpg elements, much better graphical fidelity and Bethesda Bugs. You probably think that last one is a joke but I’m dead ass serious, I’m here for that shit can’t wait to jump from a planet into outer space.

 

[Three]

warriors before starfield:
"if a game is third person and cinematic they are basically the same game. TLOU = GoW"

Warriors after starfield:

"How dare you draw similarities between games which are both hybrid First/Third person, are set in space, where you explore planets, resource mine with a laser gun, shoot stuff, get in spaceship dog fights, and base build in both. You're an idiot"

Examples below:
Then

Look at the games you listed. Aside from Horizon they’re all basically the same: third person cinematic “prestige” games where you traverse down linear corridors in between cutscenes that run so long your controller idles out and turns off. I’m bored of those now.

I haven't really played games on other platforms where the story and movies are the glue and the gameplay is from 2005.

Being third person and cinematic driven is enough to blend in with each other.
If you are not interested in third person, just with that opinion 99 percent of sonys exclusive library becomes obsolete.
And then add if you don't want to spend half of the game to watch cinematics, then it further will drive you away from then.

Now

It's Twitter warrior bullshit that IGN is spreading for clicks.

First picture :

Omg there's a robot. Just like no man's sky. In a Sci fi game.

Secons picture: oh my god it is third person, just like no man's sky.

Third picture: oh my god you can mine with a laser in a Sci fi game, like no man's sky.

You could literally put any third person game from the same time era whatever and make it look like a copy.

This is some low quality bait.

 

[Mr. Banana]

NMS (albeit a beautiful game to date) it has very little to do with it , and it's embarrassing how people aren't realizing the game's true source of inspiration. The game is inspired STRONGLY from Christopher Nolan movie "Interstellar" the positioning of the camera outside the shuttle to the audio (the engine burst souris the basically a coy and the silence inside the cockpit with janky sound when move) and soundtrack and the story also seems to go in the same lane.

 

[The_Mike]

warriors before starfield:
"if a game is third person and cinematic they are basically the same game. TLOU = GoW"

Warriors after starfield:

"How dare you draw similarities between games which are both hybrid First/Third person, are set in space, where you explore planets, resource mine with a laser gun, shoot stuff, get in spaceship dog fights, and base build in both. You're an idiot"

Examples below:
Then




Now

Throw your warrior title somewhere else, I don't find any interest in Starfield and it looks terrible mediocre,if not worse.

I still find the comparison laugh worthy tho.

 

[KiteGr]

It still looks junky.

 

[Warablo]

I think most space games are compared to each other. The Sony thing is more about one platforms studios all following the same formula. Just like how a lot of Xbox games are focused on first person perspective.

 

[Soosa]

Fallout meets New Man's Sky was the first thing I thought of when I saw Starfield Man lasering crafting materials.

Exactly what I thought too when I saw it.

Fallout on space + no mans sky.

I was more hyped before this show, now Im sceptical if it is really that fun to play, but I hope so

 

[Starfield]

Star Citizen is worse than NMS, way to lower the bar.

lol ok

 

[Razvedka]

At present I think such comparisons are inevitable. I drew them upon watching the Star field trailer, certainly.

I'm hoping they show us alot more stuff that will really make Starfield standout. Because I already know what our time (6 years) for Starfield cost us: the next Elder Scrolls. So before I give them money, I'd like to know what that time has actually given us with this new IP.

 

[alucard0712_rus]

Are people in this thread still serious?
I'm not talking about people that compared Starfield to NMS but people who somehow got it seriously, lol.

 

[DeepEnigma]

warriors before starfield:
"if a game is third person and cinematic they are basically the same game. TLOU = GoW"

Warriors after starfield:

"How dare you draw similarities between games which are both hybrid First/Third person, are set in space, where you explore planets, resource mine with a laser gun, shoot stuff, get in spaceship dog fights, and base build in both. You're an idiot"

Examples below:
Then




Now

Just wait until the 3rd person, story driven, cinematic music video/movie game walking sim of Hellblade 2 is shown more.

But I digress. This thread should not be so emotionally damaged, games borrow interesting, innovative ideas and scope all the time. WTF, people!

This is a MASSIVE nothing burger on both sides.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Sure - which is why devs go out of their way to show how their games will be different to all those others. To put it another way - the indie trash box is full of games that just ripped off the mechanics of other games and were forgotten 5 minutes after launch.

People in this thread are assuming a lot about what this game will be but it wasn’t shown regardless - they’re just assuming “more Bethesda” stuff. If you didn’t know anything about Bethesda you’d say this was NMS - shoot things, mine things, build a base. That’s what they chose to show.

For example

1) Are their parties in this? Or am I yet another lone character wandering the wilderness like the last 20 years of Bethesda games? If you have ships and bases but no meaningful relationships with other a crew, this game is DOA.

2) What is the story? Are their factions? Can I join? Are there multiple endings? Nothing shown.

3) Todd said the choices we make will decide the story? Really? So is it open ended sandbox - or is there a story ark that concludes? If it’s a sandbox base building then this is NMS with jank and no multiplayer.

Basically if you’re just going to show the stuff that is the same as other games then you open yourself up to exactly the criticism being thrown from far and wide.

There was no passion, no hook and no compelling reason presented in this segment to suggest this is any more than yet another of the flood of space games we’ve had this past few years.

There may well be a unique and innovative element to this game - but it hasn’t been shown yet and given the track records of the companies involved I’ll reserve judgement.

My GPU $1 sub runs for another 2 years so there’s a decent chance I’ll get to see this running as they envision it (although I wouldn’t bet my life on it) but still - am I hyped for it? Nope - I feel like I’ve played it already several times.

Seriously list me 5 big budget gameplay reveals that satisfy you.

warriors before starfield:
"if a game is third person and cinematic they are basically the same game. TLOU = GoW"

Warriors after starfield:

"How dare you draw similarities between games which are both hybrid First/Third person, are set in space, where you explore planets, resource mine with a laser gun, shoot stuff, get in spaceship dog fights, and base build in both. You're an idiot"

Examples below:
Then




Now

You have 2 games in the same genre with different themes vs 2 games in a different genre with the same theme. You don't see the difference?

 

[iHaunter]

Star Citizen is worse than NMS, way to lower the bar.

That's very debatable as they do two very different things. While SC is far from finished, what it has accomplished is miles above what any other game has, it's not even close.

I don't even get the comparison, one is fully livable online game, while another is an emulation of an online game.

 

[nikos]

At the very least, Starfield looks like it was heavily influenced by No Man's Sky. That may change as we see more of the game, but as of now there are many similarities.

 

[RGB'D]

The mining tool, the space exploration, the base building, the ship building, character customization, a bunch of worlds, crafting, gun fights and space pirates. They share a LOT of similarities, you’d have be Stevie Wonder to not see it, However, there are things that set it apart and still have me hyped for the game.

An actual story with choices, skills and rpg elements, much better graphical fidelity and Bethesda Bugs. You probably think that last one is a joke but I’m dead ass serious, I’m here for that shit can’t wait to jump from a planet into outer space.

Yeah. I mean its a space game. It's not like No Man's Sky is the first game to feature any of those things. This whole thing is pretty dumb and seems to be intended to say that Starfield ripped off No Man's Sky by using similar mechanics that existed before No Man's Sky was even developed. I mined ore with lasers in Elite Dangerous before No Man's Sky existed and I hardly think they were the first to do it.

 

[Little Chicken]

Setting up trade routes between planets is going to be so fun.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I just loaded No Mans Sky.. and now I'm confused, since there isn't a 100 hour+ RPG game w/ branching story lines and I kinda assumed there would be.

Some of the stuff Bethesda ripped off is worth laughing at (mining laser, that mech thing).. but half of this shit is just what any game based on "space shit" would look like.

And none of it makes Starfield the same kind of game as No Mans Sky.

They really should have showed off 15 minutes of playing the RPG aspects with a "wait there's more" and showed like 60 seconds of the space flight/exploration crap. That's likely going to be closer to the breakdown of the time you'll spend in this game. It's going to be Bethesda RPG #5, in Space, for the most part.