WickedAngel
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Where does Zune stand in all of this? It doesn't seem spectacular but the current iteration seems far more responsive than iTunes ever did to me.
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People tell me winamp is better than itunes
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Pochacco said:
well, I leave it checked and keep all the folders organized. HOWEVER, you can choose not to have iTunes copy the music over and you can still do everything with iTunes that you would want to do. The only difference is that the iTunes index file will point to music files spread over the hard drive in other folders as opposed to being in the iTunes folder.
The index file (used to be xml, i think it changed in itunes8) still controls iTunes so you're still good to go with smart playlists, fast searching, etc.
I remember running iTunes 4.x on my old celeron 600 MHz PC around 2004 and it seemed to run ok on that hardware. it looks like it got all bloated and slow when itunes 7 came out based on these comments. luckily i had a much faster Mac by the time the later itunes versions came out.
WickedAngel
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demon said:
I use iTunes pretty extensively, and I certainly have some frustrations with the software but it performs pretty damn well for what it's doing. I find coverflow and even grid view relatively useless, as they run way too slow and seem to have to re-cache all the artwork every fucking time you use them, but as a media organizer / player / streamer it's very nice.
I use it with the remote app or Simplify Media streaming on my iPod Touch, with Airtunes on my stereo, with the Apple TV in the living room and with Front Row on my MacBook on the bedroom television set. My total library runs about ~900 GB of audio and video and I can't think of any one program that could come close to replacing it for me.
I use it with the remote app or Simplify Media streaming on my iPod Touch, with Airtunes on my stereo, with the Apple TV in the living room and with Front Row on my MacBook on the bedroom television set. My total library runs about ~900 GB of audio and video and I can't think of any one program that could come close to replacing it for me.
WickedAngel
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demon said:
Did you intentionally overlook the 1440x900 screenshot two posts above your last?
If you want a generalization, then iTunes on Windows is as much of a resource hog as Winamp is a clusterfuck in terms of interface. Granted, i prefer Winamp, but there is no app that's overall better, just what's better for the individual.
i prefer the interface and iTunes music store in iTunes. It's also really the best thing to manage an iPod with. Winamp's strength lies in its Swiss army knife approach, including support for a ridiculous number of formats out of the box, more features via plugins, customizable everything. Winamp did a pretty good job of managing my old 30GB iPod, but for whatever reason i could never get normalization to work properly. Maybe they've fixed that since.
At the moment, my personal favorite player is Billy. It's a no frills MP3/AAC/WAV/FLAC player. Crazy fast, and very little resource use.
i prefer the interface and iTunes music store in iTunes. It's also really the best thing to manage an iPod with. Winamp's strength lies in its Swiss army knife approach, including support for a ridiculous number of formats out of the box, more features via plugins, customizable everything. Winamp did a pretty good job of managing my old 30GB iPod, but for whatever reason i could never get normalization to work properly. Maybe they've fixed that since.
At the moment, my personal favorite player is Billy. It's a no frills MP3/AAC/WAV/FLAC player. Crazy fast, and very little resource use.
WickedAngel
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demon said:
The point is that you're being dense or lying about your iTunes install now that you've been shown to be wrong.
It's not a matter of opinion. These things come with an installation of iTunes; you've got these services on your computer if you're running a relatively recent installation of the program. The only way they wouldn't be in your Add/Remove Programs is if you've already removed them or if you're running an old version of iTunes.
I've always just used Windows Media Player for listening to music but I've always kinda wondered what was so much better with alternative media players. I've played around with iTunes and Winamp before but I never saw any good reason to switch over. Apparently WMP is pretty light on options compared to some others, so what exactly do they have that makes them better?
evilromero
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This has been conventional wisdom since the dawn of time. Is there any Apple program that doesn't suck ass?
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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LCfiner said:
:lol :lol :lol that was unexpected funny as hell!
SHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTT
Well, I feel better now. I got iTLU working with my iTunes 8 on Vista again, so it's a tolerable player. (I still use Media Monkey to handle the tagging and organizing)
iTLU makes iTunes rock.
Zune Player wasn't bad. VERY pretty. But the song rating and song browsing was VERY limited. The social aspect almost overrides that, though.
But I keep going back to Media Monkey just for the now playing list. I like a dynamic playlist, a la Winamp, where I don't WANT to go to party shuffle just to inject 1 song into a temporary playlist.
iTLU makes iTunes rock.
Zune Player wasn't bad. VERY pretty. But the song rating and song browsing was VERY limited. The social aspect almost overrides that, though.
But I keep going back to Media Monkey just for the now playing list. I like a dynamic playlist, a la Winamp, where I don't WANT to go to party shuffle just to inject 1 song into a temporary playlist.
Always-honest
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lol at the apple haters here... very fashionable.
xxjuicesxx
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Always-honest said:
Its like a damn weatherbug to be honest. Maybe I wanted quicktime, but I goto apple and it wants me to install quicktime/itunes. When I do that I also get Apple Software Update Manager that pops up and wants me to install Safari?
WTF I Just wanted to be able to watch an mp4.
And when I'm on my laptop that has little RAM I'm going to avoid anything bloated like the 40-60 MB of memory that iTunes would eat up as opposed to what like 4-8MB Winamp uses when minimized in the background?
Looks aren't everything.
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xxjuicesxx said:Its like a damn weatherbug to be honest. Maybe I wanted quicktime, but I goto apple and it wants me to install quicktime/itunes. When I do that I also get Apple Software Update Manager that pops up and wants me to install Safari?
WTF I Just wanted to be able to watch an mp4.
And when I'm on my laptop that has little RAM I'm going to avoid anything bloated like the 40-60 MB of memory that iTunes would eat up as opposed to what like 4-8MB Winamp uses when minimized in the background?
Looks aren't everything.
nope, but it all works damn fine on a mac.
Always-honest said:
Yep, because it's not possible to criticise something without being a hater.
Whether you like it or not, all Apple software on Windows runs like a dog. iTunes crawls trying to view all my music on my network, while WMP cruises along just fine. And WMP doesn't have to be told when new files have been added to a folder.
Itunes on windows sucks I avoided itunes and quicktime like the plague, but the second I bought Ipod mini the software was annoying as hell to deal with. Sure I have the option not to install all that crap, but that updater comes up non stop for me and routinely ask me update shit I see no reason for having in the first place. The memory footprint sucks too, for all the praise I see coming for apple fans seem to be built on delusions and sticking their head hand when legit criticism is said.
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westical said:
i know. i have itunes on my windows laptop. works okay, but it works great on macs.
there are haters though
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shaft said:
Given you mentioned fofr config, I guess the "skins" you are trying to install in foobar2k are based on PanelsUI, a plugin that has been "banned" as it was buggy, made the player crash alot and hasn't been updated in a long while. I believe the latest version of foobar doesn't even recognize the plugin anymore, but I'm not sure.
jakershaker said:
Foobar is easier to customize now than before visually. It'll never reach something like PanelsUI in the look department, but it won't require you to write tagz (lol) to get something working like PanelsUI did.
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iTunes on Windows is horrible (the OS X version is much, much better). Completely horrible. I don't know how so many people put up with it, it's ugly, slow as all heck and hangs up when you ask it to do anything.
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That's kind of an odd feature to love but whatever floats your boat I guess 
CajoleJuice
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I use it solely because of last.fm functionality.painey said:
I've been using iTunes for about 7 years now and still love it. It can be a resource hog on Windows but when it manages my music library with ease, having to wait a whole 10 seconds for it to load will hardly kill me.
Before iTunes I used numerous players and never liked any of them. Winamp, Sonique, WMP, and whatever else existed back then. Once I got my iBook, I was hooked and even when I switched back to PCs 4 years later, I've stuck with it.
Before iTunes I used numerous players and never liked any of them. Winamp, Sonique, WMP, and whatever else existed back then. Once I got my iBook, I was hooked and even when I switched back to PCs 4 years later, I've stuck with it.
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I disagree here. iTunes has a habit of seemingly arbitrarily randomising the track order of albums on my iPod. Probably because it's a couple of years old and the databases are coming apart at the seams, but the ml_ipod plugin for Winamp has a bunch of cleanup tools that I find very useful, and it also lets you copy music off your iPod without the hassle of finding the files manually.aoi tsuki said:
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Thread summary.
iTunes on a mac, awesome.
iTunes on windows, bloated and slow.
iTunes on a mac, awesome.
iTunes on windows, bloated and slow.
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