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Persona News Stream 2015 Discussion Thread (Read Post #132)

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Right, woke up for a half hour to catch this event. Have I missed anything in the interim, other than Sho being the P5 Hero?
 
True, but sometimes it's just weird how if I save multiple people's lives during my adventures but I make one or two tough political choices that they don't like, "SCREW YOU MAN! I'M LEAVING!" XD

Yeah. But friendships split in real life for stupid reasons. I guess they are just trying to introduce risk/reward scenarios. Where you have to pick certain paths by sacrificing others.
 
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This... this just appeared on Twitter (source).

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It might be fake, but it doesn't look like it. EDIT: It's real!

Whoa.

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At the bottom left: "Persona 5 begins"

Oh my god. That seriously looks crazy (awesome)!

Just saw this, YES!

FINALLY, "Persona 5 begins"!

And I'm really liking the whole psychopath vibe from that MC pic.

Yeah, the prospect that the characters may unleash their "dark sides" through their Persona's is pretty exciting. The "phantom of the opera" kind of look may imply that the party will act as less of a "investigation team" and more of a "vigilante justice" team. Maybe "breaking from the chains" is "breaking from authority figures". The shadows in this game could affect people directly, causing them to go mad. Instead of trying to figure out who is going to be the next victim like in P4, the team must bring vengeance on the perp using their Personas (probably in a still non-lethal way). The first trailer showing headlines of gruesome murders leads me to believe the problem in this game will be a lot darker, and I even think that possibly the victims of the shadows will be characterized as having more responsibility for their possessed actions, with most going to jail for what they did (because the shadows just pushed "over the edge" so to speak, not true possession).

Of course that means that like P3 (haven't beaten it), the team will probably not be victims of any shadows and will instead gain their Personas through other means.
That's the vibe I get from this, and it's very exciting (and kind of scary).
 
The whole wild card thing is easily explained away by Philemon. He gave all the kids their personas in P1/P2, and we never see any of the other persona users switch personas. Philemon flies past the P3 main character at the beginning, then later Aigis in the Answer.

Most of the kids awakened to their personas before meeting Philemon though, as I recall. Been awhile since I've played the game though.

The casts from Persona 1 and 2 didn't really have the Wild Card ability though. They had access to the Velvet Room and could change their Persona, but they had issues with Arcana compatibility that the actual Wild Card ability doesn't have.

Aigis has that issue too with her Wild Card ability in the Answer as I recall. So the only thing that the P3/P4 cast doesn't have is access to the Velvet Room. It's been awhile but I recall Igor mentioning his power was unique, which would be strange because he was around in P1/P2

Maybe it's time for a P3 replay.
 
Personas represent different things in P3 and P4 than they do in P1 and P2 in the end. It's apparent from the get go with the Wild Card ability being rare and only available to the protagonist in P3. So knocking them for not following something they never really intended on following is kinda strange.

That's kind of my point, though. P3 and P4 break away from the more literal psychological metaphor of the original games. That's not necessarily a knock, just an observation.

It does get a bit clumsy in P4, though, where you have stuff like
Rise talking about how there is no "real me" and that she's a multifaceted person with many different sides and masks she wears which is clearly a callback to the Jungian idea of Personas, but the entirety of her personality is manifested in one Persona at a time.
 
Most of the kids awakened to their personas before meeting Philemon though, as I recall. Been awhile since I've played the game though.

I don't think they're always shown meeting him, but don't all the P1(?)/P2 characters play the Persona Game at some point? And going by EP's PSP bonus scenario, people don't always explicitly recall 'meeting' Philemon even though the Persona Game seems to trigger subconsciously meeting him (Shiori blocks out/denies the memory and her Persona.)
 
Scrolling fast and seeing that ad makes me think it's super-hero themed instead of phantom of the opera =X

I thought from the animated trailer, that phones would be used to summon personas, and the cast would be doing sentai shit all over the place.

So, maybe that still holds some water.
 
That's kind of my point, though. P3 and P4 break away from the more literal psychological metaphor of the original games. That's not necessarily a knock, just an observation.

It does get a bit clumsy in P4, though, where you have stuff like
Rise talking about how there is no "real me" and that she's a multifaceted person with many different sides and masks she wears which is clearly a callback to the Jungian idea of Personas, but the entirety of her personality is manifested in one Persona at a time.

All that really means is that
Rise
is a flake.

No jab at her, mind.

She's cool by me.
 
This is gonna be Ultimax stuff and I'll be super mad about waking up at 3am won't I?

The P5 trolling will be worth it though. Completely worth it.
 
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