whatsinaname
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Konami, just have the release (and demo) on Steam on day 1.
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PES 2014 (PS3/360/PC/PSP) first screens and details - You will say wow
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OriginalNameGuy
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Wow, that was underwhelming. I still want to see the game in motion though
Huge image of the boxart featuring nice shots: http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/23/1370344719-ps3-pes2014-mock-packshot.jpg
Calm down Bayern haters, that's probably the cover for the CL special edition or something.
Calm down Bayern haters, that's probably the cover for the CL special edition or something.
digoutyoursoul
Member
At the moment
FIFA 13 has about 80% of the same animation as FIFA 12, what a weak excuse. They added a few frames to already existing animation mostly. None of those are different, btw.
FIFA has been about weak inertia and no momentum ever since FIFA 2010, FIFA 13 is the same exact way.
DerZuhälter;61159241 said:Remember the last thread?
Konami needs to release a trailer ASAP for damage control. Beside the fact that the non-Bayern fans in Germany would rather buy a bag of STDs than a game with Bayern all over the cover, the released screens look like utter poo. Welcome back to the cycle guys.
Current stage: DENIAL
LoL it's the same disappointment every year just now it's rendered in fox enginelol.
CamHostage
Member
Right, the PSP version is I would assume for the Japanese market primarily.
Still, they have the Vita and 3DS engines, if they're going to go through the trouble for basically a roster update on the PSP product I'm not sure how much more it'd take to do the same for Vita or 3DS? The first game was mistimed in release on both platforms, this would be the first concurrent release on both platforms, correct? Seems like the next game would be the proving ground, the debut titles were easily missed in the launch and were old before release. I hope they reconsider PES portable down the road (PES on iPhone stopped as well, right?) The PSP ain't gonna last forever...
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Wow I'm baffled... Shows how much research Konami does when the Community Manager pokes at the bad sales of FIFA on WiiU as another reason for their no-show on the platform, while he doesn't even know their main competitor's game was just last year's game reskinned instead of the "true" FIFA 13.
Meus Renaissance
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One of my FIFA buddies was trashing PES on Twitter and I was wondering why. I was about to write a response to him until I saw the screenshots, and more importantly, that Konami will not be doing a next-gen version.
I cant understand it. I really cant.
Adam's answer makes even less sense. I was anticipating a new PES because I was frankly bored and frustrated with FIFA.
I cant understand it. I really cant.
Adam's answer makes even less sense. I was anticipating a new PES because I was frankly bored and frustrated with FIFA.
Konami will have next-gen version, just not in September when they usually release their PES.
I think they are trying to show how they care about their current gen owners to offer them brand new gameplay and graphics engine, unlike Fifa, but it didnt turn out well with all the Wii U info getting Wii U owners annoyed
Meus Renaissance
Member
I knew this guys name sounded familiar!
Meus Renaissance
Member
Konami will have next-gen version, just not in September when they usually release their PES.
I think they are trying to show how they care about their current gen owners to offer them brand new gameplay and graphics engine, unlike Fifa, but it didnt turn out well with all the Wii U info getting Wii U owners annoyed
Question is, why spend time on creating a new engine for the current-gen at the expense of delaying next-gen development? People have been crying out for something with better visuals and animations, so you would expect they focus on the Xbone and PS4
This Adam guy is completely missing the point.
Better graphics is not the only thing the fans expect from the next gen version. We are all aiming for higher than that. It is only because after years and years of lies and let down, people lowered their expectations.
If at this point in time the only thing they can put out on next gen is a higher res version of the current game, we are in for a huge disappointment when the next gen version hits next year.
Better graphics is not the only thing the fans expect from the next gen version. We are all aiming for higher than that. It is only because after years and years of lies and let down, people lowered their expectations.
If at this point in time the only thing they can put out on next gen is a higher res version of the current game, we are in for a huge disappointment when the next gen version hits next year.
i bet new engine was done with next gen in mind as well.
in reality, both 360 and PS3 will be over 80 million before XO/PS4 launches, and PES is a game that sells to millions.
it is just that wii u thing spiraled out of control, and when you got nothing nice to say, it is better to say nothing... golden rule of PR.
they are probably trying to get people to get it on ps3 and not wait for ps4 release...
You know animation is tied to the gameplay.
Really?
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Yes?
Edumacation is a bootiful thang.
This sure as heck doesn't give me hope when imagining how MGS5 will look on PS3. As impressive as the Fox Engine is, I thought at least a respectable level of its capabilities would remain intact on current-gen, but judging by PES, that was a bit too hopeful. Team Kojima puts a great amount of care in MGS, so maybe - just maybe - the Fox Engine won't be scaled down beyond recognition there.
whatsinaname
Member
In football games, animations are very important to capture the various aspects of a player's body positioning and movement. For example, if there are no variations for running animations, each player is going to look like the other while in a wide angle camera view. If the animations are not good enough, you are going to get weird behaviour where the player slides around or 'snaps' into weird positions when trying to hit a ball.
While FIFA has improved their animations a lot, they use similar ones across many players leading to a sort of sameness which leads to the complaints of lack of player individuality. PES has tried to capture animations for the more famous players and have done a decent job, but at the expense of making the rest of the players look a bit clunky.
I enjoyed it, it's about as realistic as FIFA.
Thing is, compared to other sport games like NBA 2K, Top Spin and The Show both FIFA and PES are behind in realism, it's pretty sad because football is the biggest sport in the world, and actually not only that but look at The Show and NBA 2K they shit all over FIFA and PES in presentation, animations and even AI.
improvements from EA and Konami are in baby steps mode, I really think that 2K sport and San Diego Studio need to make football games.
Yes, absolutely! It's too bad Sony and T2 don't seem interested in the biggest sport in the World.
aganu, I don't have a WENB account but I read your posts there, keep on it. I love it when people spread some common sense. It baffles my mind how the screens in the boxart are far superior to the screens they showed us.
Thanks, rvy. I appreciate that. The forums there have some decent posters and discussions. It's nice to be around there.
Yeah, I agree with you! It's baffling! Screens in the OP look too rough in comparison to the ones above. Wouldn't be surprised if they're directly captured from PS3 because you could spot the lack of AA in two of them. Here's another impressive snip from the cover:
In tomorrow's stream we will likely see the game in motion and I'm optimistic it'll look great, especially with the completely re-built animations and new impact engine.
Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. Tomorrow is gonna be great, if everything is up to par.
I'm just excited for both this and FIFA.
I'm interested in seeing how FIFA actually looks like too, hopefully animation is a priority for them. But watching a CGI Messi dribble the ball with his right foot didn't impress me.
Nice, I'm sure at the very least the PC version will look so good. Visual style looks miles better IMO than that FIFA14 next gen shit, I've always hated how FIFA looks and it made me sad to see them keeping it the same for next gen.Thanks, rvy. I appreciate that. The forums there have some decent posters and discussions. It's nice to be around there.
Yeah, I agree with you! It's baffling! Screens in the OP look too rough in comparison to the ones above. Wouldn't be surprised if they're directly captured from PS3 because you could spot the lack of AA in two of them. Here's another impressive snip from the cover:
Thanks, rvy. I appreciate that. The forums there have some decent posters and discussions. It's nice to be around there.
Yeah, I agree with you! It's baffling! Screens in the OP look too rough in comparison to the ones above. Wouldn't be surprised if they're directly captured from PS3 because you could spot the lack of AA in two of them. Here's another impressive snip from the cover:
In tomorrow's stream we will likely see the game in motion and I'm optimistic it'll look great, especially with the completely re-built animations and new impact engine.
RIBERY RIBERY RIBERY
Looks like that fifa impact thing, but not shitty. Can't wait to see how the game plays, was a bit disappointed by the new video, doesn't really give me an idea if the gameplay is any better than current football games. Individual animations, buzzwords and promises don't really do anything for me.
Spat_triate
Member
Animations look great and ball physics seem to be much improved. The players actually try to correct their center of gravity in order to stay upright (instead of flopping stiffly to the ground).
Nestunt
Member
If it has the same non-controlled players positioning as the last years
what do physics matter?
Football is a defensive game (few "points" in one hour and half of game) and PES has been horrible in that department. And when they tried to correct that, they did it by making the offensive players borderline stupid and the one that controls the ball purely unresponsive with technical dudes like Messi or Ronaldo simply passing through defenders with no body or ball flick
I am not a nostalgic gamer
but PES is one of those evident cases where the past engine was better to represent tactical football
what do physics matter?
Football is a defensive game (few "points" in one hour and half of game) and PES has been horrible in that department. And when they tried to correct that, they did it by making the offensive players borderline stupid and the one that controls the ball purely unresponsive with technical dudes like Messi or Ronaldo simply passing through defenders with no body or ball flick
I am not a nostalgic gamer
but PES is one of those evident cases where the past engine was better to represent tactical football
Haunted
Member
"Wait, you mean anyone can read these twitter messages? oh god i am not good with computer"
Gah, I would KILL for a decent version of PES for my Vita :'(
Don't know why but I never liked the PSP versions, the lack of R2 kills me... maybe on the vita something could be worked out (using the screen to perform through passes or something like that). I hope they fix this and make a 2015 version.
Don't know why but I never liked the PSP versions, the lack of R2 kills me... maybe on the vita something could be worked out (using the screen to perform through passes or something like that). I hope they fix this and make a 2015 version.