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Peter Molyneux: Wii-mote far less consequential than somethimg like Xbox LIVE.

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My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Found this Peter Molynuex interview about Fable 2; here is the part I found intersting...
Molynuex said:
All I can say is that Microsoft is an incredibly smart company and I never fail to be impressed by just how clever they are. Don’t forget this is the company which pioneered LIVE which I believe will ultimately be far more impactful on video games in the long term than something like the Wii controller.
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http://xbox360.canaljuegos.com/XBox...?idproducto=1772&idnoticia=4365&juego=Fable+2
 
It's obviously too early to tell which will have the most longstanding impact, but I can see what he says being true potentially. I can also see it being false. I don't think anyone can really say right now.
 
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WHOAguitarninja said:
It's obviously too early to tell which will have the most longstanding impact, but I can see what he says being true potentially. I can also see it being false. I don't think anyone can really say right now.
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The power of the internet vs. the power of a couple gyros and an accelerometer?

Remember: the Wiimote could easily be ripped off and used on other systems. Then Nintendo would be back to square one with relying on 1st party franchises to keep the system afloat. There's no reason why any system can't have both.

I hope that sounds objective enough-- not trying to start a flame war.
 
Developer of Microsoft game likes Microsoft.

I bet Insomniac will talk about how great Blu-Ray is next.

Then we can sit down with Retro over tea while we discuss why using the nunchuck to grapple is more important than the advent of chess.
 
well potentially this silly little waggle wand could bring down the reign of the Playstation. To me thats pretty consequential.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
The market is proving him wrong right now. VERY wrong.
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Not really. You can't judge how a market will develop based on the sales over a single year. If it turns out that from this point foward every single console in the future is waggle enabled(god i hope not), then it may be that the Wii-mote is more impactful, but I think it's far more likely to see a future where online integration and digital distribution of media is more commonplace and integral to the experience than a waggle controller.

The power of the internet vs. the power of a couple gyros and an accelerometer?

Remember: the Wiimote could easily be ripped off and used on other systems. Then Nintendo would be back to square one with relying on 1st party franchises to keep the system afloat. There's no reason why any system can't have both.

I hope that sounds objective enough-- not trying to start a flame war.
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While I'd certainly say that right now I think he's right, if the Wii-mote becomes the standard method of interaction, then I think a case could be made for it. I don't think it will, but if it happens that it does it will be hard to ignore as a hugely hugely important development in the industry.
 
Mamesj said:
Remember: the Wiimote could easily be ripped off and used on other systems.
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If the Wiimote gets ripped off by another company, won't that prove that it's consequential?
 
Live has already made it's impact. All systems and handhelds use some sort of online system, no matter how crappy.

The wii-mote hasn't. Only one system actually uses it.

I personally see this as saying "The analog stick is far less consequential than rumble"
 
ShockingAlberto said:
Developer of Microsoft game likes Microsoft.

I bet Insomniac will talk about how great Blu-Ray is next.

Then we can sit down with Retro over tea while we discuss why using the nunchuck to grapple is more important than the advent of chess.
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Pretty much what I'm thinking.

Waggle + Live? Now thats a combination.
 
WHOAguitarninja said:
Not really. You can't judge how a market will develop based on the sales over a single year. If it turns out that from this point foward every single console in the future is waggle enabled(god i hope not), then it may be that the Wii-mote is more impactful, but I think it's far more likely to see a future where online integration and digital distribution of media is more commonplace and integral to the experience than a waggle controller.
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While this is true, XBOX Live has been on the market since what, 2003? As far as I can see it has has had 4 years to prove itself an unquestionable hallmark of the industry and still hasn't been able to do so.

Is the internet an important part of gaming? I think so, but as far as Wiimote vs. XBOX Live specifically, I really think the cards have been laid down.
 
cw_sasuke said:
xboxlive = internet :lol
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Umm, yeah smart guy, xbox live is something that utilizes networking power and internet connections to run, thus, the power of the internet, which holds a lot of potential--it's not static.

A wii remote will still be a wii remote in 50 years. Fine tuned with a couple new features perhaps, but it may not look a whole lot different from what we see today.


some very slight critical thinking would've uncovered this for you. ;-)
 
My favorite system is better than your favorite system.




I think I am going to start saying this in every thread that devolves into system wars until I get banned.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
While this is true, XBOX Live has been on the market since what, 2003? As far as I can see it has has had 4 years to prove itself an unquestionable hallmark of the industry and still hasn't been able to do so.

Is the internet an important part of gaming? I think so, but as far as Wiimote vs. XBOX Live specifically, I really think the cards have been laid down.
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It's not about proving to be a hallmark of the industry...it's about influencing the development of it. Sony has responded with PSN, even Nintendo is online now. Every console developer has certainly taken notice of what MS has done and are trying to come up with something to atleast compare to it. This is what he's talking about. It is still WAY too early to tell what longterm effects the Wii-mote will have on how consoles go forward in the future. Like I said it may become the defacto standard method of control, then you would have an argument for it, but it's simply too early to tell right now.
 
oh shit console WARZ

And yeah connectivity is far more consequential than a new control scheme, but this has nothing to do with the 360.
 
If I had to choose....

xbox live > waggle...

but to each his own.

I think Wii-mote will have a bigger impact on casuals. Far less "intimidating"
 
Billy Rygar said:
oh shit console WARZ

And yeah connectivity is far more consequential than a new control scheme, but this has nothing to do with the 360.
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exactly what I'm saying, but apparently it's more fun to interpret words incorrectly and use them on people instead of discussing things.

Xbox live is an extension of something larger and more dynamic than its self. Xbox Live could evolve pretty far on its own, but that's not the ground level.

&#1057 said:
If the Wiimote gets ripped off by another company, won't that prove that it's consequential?
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I didn't say it was going to be inconsequential. damn.
 
Each has its own merits and could potentially be more influential. It's too early to tell right now, but I think long term that XBL does have a lot more potential.
 
I should add that what I'm arguing is not what Molyneaux is arguing. I swear I'm not trying to suck Bill Gates' penis :lol
 
i'm not sure how anyone could disagree. there are far more possibilities of online gaming and the entire community system set up than for the Wii-mote. that's not to say the Wii-mote isn't impressive or impactful, but i think there are more possibilities with a closely knit online community than for an input device.
 
WHOAguitarninja said:
It's not about proving to be a hallmark of the industry...it's about influencing the development of it. Sony has responded with PSN, even Nintendo is online now. Every console developer has certainly taken notice of what MS has done and are trying to come up with something to atleast compare to it. This is what he's talking about. It is still WAY too early to tell what longterm effects the Wii-mote will have on how consoles go forward in the future. Like I said it may become the defacto standard method of control, then you would have an argument for it, but it's simply too early to tell right now.
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Frankly I think that's bullshit.


Sony has been online with the PS2 for years and it as a system has proved to be far more popular than XBOX Live. So what is it? Are we distilling the service into "internet gaming" or are we looking for the entire package that XBOX LIVE offers?
 
Live improves every X360 experience.

The Wiimote does not make every Wii game better.

By that tiny criteria, Peter Molyneux is clearly correct.
 
Mamesj said:
The power of the internet vs. the power of a couple gyros and an accelerometer?

Remember: the Wiimote could easily be ripped off and used on other systems. Then Nintendo would be back to square one with relying on 1st party franchises to keep the system afloat. There's no reason why any system can't have both.

I hope that sounds objective enough-- not trying to start a flame war.
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The Wii has far more "internet" functionality than the 360.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
Frankly I think that's bullshit.


Sony has been online with the PS2 for years and it as a system has proved to be far more popular than XBOX Live. So what is it? Are we distilling the service into "internet gaming" or are we looking for the entire package that XBOX LIVE offers?
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XBL is a unified service that brings a lot more than just internet gaming to the table. While the PS2 did have a online service, it was not unified and relied heavily on the developers to bring their own online model to fruition. And from what I remember, I don't think the PS2 online was ever more popular than XBL, I could be wrong though.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
The market is proving him wrong right now. VERY wrong.
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"'which I believe will ultimately be far more impactful on video games in the long run"
I think he conceded that point already. Just saying.
 
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