I wonder what the "Avellone-curated updates" are. Unfinished content finally finished by Beamdog, maybe?
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Planescape: Torment Enhanced Edition (PC/mobile) officially announced
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I wonder what the "Avellone-curated updates" are. Unfinished content finally finished by Beamdog, maybe?
Weltall Zero
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Those outlines are terrible. I mean, I understand they are optional, but I think they are sufficiently bad that I'm tempted to diverge from my usual more options = better stance
I understand your stance perfectly, it's probably what I felt about the FFV / FFVI iOS ports. Even so, I may probably play with them on, because this is one of the cases where I will trade aesthetics for immediate screen readability, which was one of my issues with the original.
iceblade997
Member
Oh great! Can't wait for the release on this one - been wanting to play it for a while now. It'll be nice to have it on Steam, too!
Like others have said modding the original works but still leaves a few rough edges and the UI doesn't scale so well either, so this should hopefully fix that.
Like others have said modding the original works but still leaves a few rough edges and the UI doesn't scale so well either, so this should hopefully fix that.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Was hoping for a date tbh
Spacejaws
Member
I mean it does say with updates curated by Chris Avellone, so I'd expect something similar to BG unfinished buisness adding a few extras but hopefully more optional extras and a magical item or two and not changes to anything in the main game. Honestly the Baldur's Gate games as much as they get shit on Beamdog didn't touch much with the main content, infact I don't think they are even allowed to.
I'd like some new side shit though. I enjoyed the new characters, had alot of fun with both Black Pits, enjoyed immensely SoD for given us a new IE adventure that I'd never thought I'd see. Icewind Dale EE is also the undoubtably definiive version of the game.
I'd say even getting the original devs and modders involved in some way has got to give these guys some kudos. They could just as easily pump out some souless shit but after following them this long even if they mistep it still feels like they have the right intentions.
*waits patiently for Beamdog to finally add the German dub to BG2EE*
Well, you can disable them I assume (as with BGEEs), so no harm done.
Those outlines are terrible. I mean, I understand they are optional, but I think they are sufficiently bad that I'm tempted to diverge from my usual more options = better stance
Well, you can disable them I assume (as with BGEEs), so no harm done.
Dsyndrome
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Could still happen, timer's still running, so maybe the website will have more info than just the trailer.
Dwight Schrute
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EatinOlives
Member
Yep, that's why I bounced off the game super fast. Was really excited to play what is considered one of the greatest RPGs of all time but the game doesn't play well at all on modern systems. Either you play with a pathetically low resolution and bonkers UI that was very much a product of its time, or you make everything fit in an HD resolution with tiny buttons.
i hope the UI works well on iphones, i'd love to finally play this
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Basileus777
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It's bigots mad about Siege of Dragonspear having a transgendered character in it. It doesn't help that there is a pretty strong gamergate presence in the oldschool CRPG community.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Looking at the YouTube comments makes me wish that BD includes an NPC that just says "Hi I'm transgender" and nothing else just to piss off the GGs.
You stay away from my PT you sexist bastards.
You stay away from my PT you sexist bastards.
AWizardDidIt
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This echoes my feelings exactly. Beamdog doesn't always hit it out of the park but I actually do appreciate what they're doing trying to keep these games alive and active. And from following them a bit, they seem absolutely genuine with their intentions, which I think is unfortunate a cynical segment of the internet probably would never understand.,
I think their original content is pretty much alright... as long as you treat it like a very high quality mod and since my BG playthroughs always include a suite of mods, it's just gravy added onto that.
I get the feeling they'll take a more IWD EE approach to this one and just stick to technical improvements and maybe a few added items that maybe exist in the code but aren't in game anywhere.
RPG_Fanatic
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Sweet, an excuse to play through this game again. Probably one of my favourite games of all time.
Beamdog has spoken about this in the past. Changing anything related to the characters, including animation, requires access to the original 3D files. And the original files for both BG and IWD has been lost, which problary means they're lost for PS:T as well. And even then animation work is quite expensive and I don't know what animation framerate the Infinity Engine support to begin with.
manzoman96
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Hmm have always heard great things about this game. With this I just might have to finally give it a try.
calavera_jo
Neo Member
I don't get where all those comments are coming from
Pilgrimzero
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Jealous! I'm na jealous! I don't even know how ta spell jealous.
Gentleman Jack
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Edit: Nm don't wanna advertise their shitty site.
Ordinaryundone
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It was always black, and also that picture is kind of a huge spoiler.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
alright, but I don't think one can tell what is going on in the picture unless they already knew.
Mr. Poolman
Member
And so, I will triple dip this game.
I own the physical one, the GOG one, and soon this one.
I love it so much
I own the physical one, the GOG one, and soon this one.
I love it so much
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
So I know this game is definitely story over gameplay, with the combat being much less of a focus than the Baldur's Gate games... but is it, like, an actual chore? A cursory glimpse of a wiki shows that the actual class types and mechanics seem pretty simplistic compared to the BG/IWD games. I'm fine with a game having a great story and ho-hum gameplay, but I don't want the actual combat stuff to be, like bad.
Zap Rowsdower
Banned
Kind of, its rather janky and not fun, but playing on Easy alleviates it. Also once you get Annah you can just have her stealth by all the enemies and avoid most combat completely, because unlike all the other IE games you don't need to gather your party before venturing forth.
Ordinaryundone
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It's not BAD, really, just simplistic compared to BG. Only 1 mage party member (who only does DPS/fire spells), 1 cleric who is mostly a heal bot, and the only Thief kinda sucks. The rest of it is just bashing shit until it dies, which isn't necessarily unfun but it does get repetitive given the lack of variety. You can be a mage to alleviate it somewhat but that's about it.
Fortunately the game doesn't have THAT much combat and you can skip the grand majority of it with skill checks and some cleverness so it's not game breaking.
Vincent Grayson
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I maintain that the game plays best when you just use a character editor for max stats so you can ignore the combat entirely, and don't get left out of any awesome dialogue for having the wrong scores.
MisterShine
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With the ongoing CRPG resurgence, I never really felt the need to bother with the other EEs given the more modern alternatives available but with this one I might actually bite. I played through most of it a few years ago and really enjoyed it but ended up getting stuck on some difficulty spike battle (probably because I screwed up my characters' stats or something), so I never finished it. This is just the excuse I needed to give it another shot.
Besides, I know they're completely unrelated story/lore-wise but it would feel wrong somehow to play Numenera without having properly beat this one.
Besides, I know they're completely unrelated story/lore-wise but it would feel wrong somehow to play Numenera without having properly beat this one.
Yup.
Oh, it's not just the combat that's bad. It's EVERYTHING outside of the story/script that is absolutely atrocious. Horrible menus, terrible movement, garbage animations, tedious hunt & click interaction, unreadable font, inane text scrolling, abhorrent window design, ugly graphics, unworkable combat, substandard audio... the list just keeps going on and on. PS:T is the prime example of a great concept hobbled by being matched to an entirely wrong engine. I struggle to think of an analogy in other media that approaches the insanity of this pairing.
Shaking my head at that, I can't see how that changes anything regarding the quality of the game. Unless it fucked up storylines or something.
Are these games very playable with a Steam controller? I only game on the couch these days, so a mouse/keyboard setup isn't ideal.
I'm clearly not the target audience for this, and i know it's not really feasible to redo most of these assets - but those animations and that scrolling and lighting looks janky as all hell :/
But i'm happy for anyone who enjoyed the original game and is getting at least this kind of proper remaster.
Meanwhile, the versions of the voxel based iterations of Command & Conquer you get from Origin don't seem to run properly on Windows 10 :/
But i'm happy for anyone who enjoyed the original game and is getting at least this kind of proper remaster.
Meanwhile, the versions of the voxel based iterations of Command & Conquer you get from Origin don't seem to run properly on Windows 10 :/
Vincent Grayson
Member
Oh no, it totally would. The meat of Torment's gameplay is conversations with characters, most of which you must read yourself.
If BGEE are anything to go by, there should be a story mode added to the game.
ebullientprism
Member
GOG. YES!
How have Beamdog ruined anything. As someone who has completed both BG1+2 over dozen times the EEs are the best shape those games have ever been in. Also considering Beamdog doesn't have the rights to the originals it is pretty ridiculous to blame them for where they are or aren't sold.
Yeah, sure. Beamdog is totally not complicit in what Hasbro has done. And what about the awful new content, the bugs introduced etc? Among RPG fans, there is a pretty strong consensus in that regard.
Zap Rowsdower
Banned
The GOG version of both Baldur's Gate EEs come with the original versions for free. They haven't gotten rid of anything.
LordRaptor
Member
Cool, a new opportunity for a new generation of gamers to learn what "good videogame writing" is, and that it doesn't mean "good writing I guess... by videogame standards"
I agree that the launch of BGEE was a complete disaster, and also the launch of BG2EE to a lesser extent. Those games were released in 2012 and 2013 though and Beamdog have kept supporting them over the years, and obviously released couple other games since then. So among the RPG fans that have actually played the current versions the consensus is pretty strong that games have actually been clearly enhanced compared to the originals.
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