They will be at E3, but there won't be an actual on stage presentation, unless that's what you meant by no show.
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Play Nintendo - Announcing Nintendo @ E3 2014
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They will be at E3, but there won't be an actual on stage presentation, unless that's what you meant by no show.
I saw that, I meant more from SPD1 and Retro specifically which you put in the never section. A new Metroid will be coming from there.It's why I put it in the probably section
I think we could see another EAD5 co-production sneak in too since that's all they seem to be doing now (Star Fox with Q-Games, Steel Diver with Vitei, Wii Fit with Ganbarion). Not sure what, I'd love Star Fox or F-Zero but probably not.
There's also the possibility of more 3rd party pickups, especially on 3DS. You mentioned Bravely Second but I think Layton Vs AA, Fantasy Life, Puzzle & Dragons Z, DQVII and some others probably have a shot.
You might be confusing the hit-pause that Mario games have employed since Sunshine for actual framerate problems. No frames are being dropped at all.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-super-mario-3d-world
Digital Foundry said:
Digital Foundry knows more than you. Don't say things when it's trivial to prove you wrong
The downloadable demos should have special rewards which can only be be gained by completing specific tasks during the other press conferences.
Like last year, both sides of the argument are overreacting. On one hand, not having a press conference isn't a huge deal: If major info is there, it'll get out. Had Nintendo shown off in a press conference the same things they showed in last year's direct, I think they would have taken a lot more criticism. It would have been a pretty weak conference. I think the only people really upset over this are enthusiast press and long time fans of the industry. At the end of the day, it's a video that only people who really care are going to watch, whether it's live or not. The press covers the games at the actual show floor.
On the other hand, not having one isn't without some negative effects. There is perception at play, and when it comes to energizing the core and the enthusiast press, it paints a less-than-stellar opinion. Sony proved that the right message (well, behind the right product) can lead to great sales. One core tenant of marketing is storytelling, and this may not be telling the story Nintendo needs right now.
That being said, I like the best buy demos and the smash bros. tournament. I think that provides a bit more heft. I also expect that nintendo's "Digital Event", will include more "special videos" like the Mega64 one here and their previous HAWP video. They're definitely trending in that "viral video" direction, and I think they'll use those in the Digital Event to create some shareable buzz. We'll see if it works out for em. The Smash Bros direct was one of their most watched videos, and I think they want to ride that wave.
Press conferences failed to build initial buzz for both the 3DS and the Wii U. Clearly it wasn't helping, even if it wasn't hurting. Now they just want to try different things. Do those things work? Will they turn it around? Probably not, but it's better than trying the same thing over and over. Really it's about product, though. If that isn't there, not even the biggest live event ever could help them out.
On the other hand, not having one isn't without some negative effects. There is perception at play, and when it comes to energizing the core and the enthusiast press, it paints a less-than-stellar opinion. Sony proved that the right message (well, behind the right product) can lead to great sales. One core tenant of marketing is storytelling, and this may not be telling the story Nintendo needs right now.
That being said, I like the best buy demos and the smash bros. tournament. I think that provides a bit more heft. I also expect that nintendo's "Digital Event", will include more "special videos" like the Mega64 one here and their previous HAWP video. They're definitely trending in that "viral video" direction, and I think they'll use those in the Digital Event to create some shareable buzz. We'll see if it works out for em. The Smash Bros direct was one of their most watched videos, and I think they want to ride that wave.
Press conferences failed to build initial buzz for both the 3DS and the Wii U. Clearly it wasn't helping, even if it wasn't hurting. Now they just want to try different things. Do those things work? Will they turn it around? Probably not, but it's better than trying the same thing over and over. Really it's about product, though. If that isn't there, not even the biggest live event ever could help them out.
Nintendos ahead of the times. We'll catch up, eventually.
Banjotanooki
Member
Amazing video, lol.
I wonder if they'll do a follow up around E3 when he reactivates.
I wonder if they'll do a follow up around E3 when he reactivates.
fredrancour
Member
Between single and multi player I've played every stage in the game multiple times. The stuttering thing that happens when somebody gets hit is a design decision that nintendo's been making with 3d mario for ages. No actual frame-rate drops have ever occurred at all in the dozens of hours I've spent with it.
Whether the hit-pause thing is a good design decision is up for debate, of course. It certainly worked better in single-player than multiplayer.
MrSaturn99
Member
another fucking livestream
well, I guess Smash demo makes up for it.
well, I guess Smash demo makes up for it.
I don't think you're understanding this correctly. These events will be available to everyone, press included. If the press choose not to report the information presented within said events then that's on them. The quality and quantity of the reporting coming from E3 shouldn't come down to who put on the biggest party for the journalists. The info will still be available only its now also available to consumer straight from the source, instead of being diluted
with Mountain Dew
I understand how that may rub some gaming websites up the wrong way, but why exactly should I care about that? Nintendo's approach might not be press friendly - and maybe that will bite them in the ass - but it is very consumer friendly so, as a consumer, I support it 100%.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
- Live E3 coverage through the Nintendo Tree House medium
- Smash Bros tournament
- Smash Bros Demo Showcase at Best Buy
- E3-focused Nintendo Direct prerecorded (instead of live conference from SNE or MSFT)
How are they hiding themselves? They are actively trying various mediums to communicate with their consumers, gamers, fans.
People need to get off their high horse and realize that not having a LIVE press conference is not the end of the world and does not signify a retreat whatsoever. Reactions to Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze would of been the same regardless of a livestream event or a prerecorded one.
Kacho
Member
They will be on the show floor so they're not hiding themselves from anyone.
They stream is accessible by anyone who has internet connection. Whether they choose to report information given in the Direct is their choice. Nintendo released PR for their E3 plans. Do you know who PRs are meant for?
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Why do people want an E3 conference? I've been watching snippets of old conferences and they seem very limited and brief (and sometimes hampered by on site technical issues).
This shotgun approach is exciting and I can't wait to have my hair blown back by some great Nintendo announcements.
This shotgun approach is exciting and I can't wait to have my hair blown back by some great Nintendo announcements.
I never blamed the gameplay of DKCTF & 3DW. I just talked about the HD and the frame rate. It works well on DKTF stages because it is 2d game (or 2.5D if you want). But when you are on the sea in WWHD sometimes there are technicals problems. 3DW runs very well when the level are closed or short but on few stages we can see a deceleration of fps.
X is not released yet. Nintendo has just shown a trailer and few minutes of gameplay. What is the impressive stuff in that?
Will you really be worried about it if they show the new Zelda and X, give dates and then drop more megatons on top of that??
You mean by having an online event with massive booths where all the mainstream press will be for announcements and hands on demos?
Seriously does anyone ever actually think about these things before posting anymore?
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
Those press folks didn't get their ego stroked so Nintendo must pay.
This is absolutely huge. It shows me that Nintendo is transforming as a company.
The fact that they're not only embracing the competitive Smash community, but actually hosting a Smash tournament is incredible.
Also, they must really, really feel confident for E3 given that video. They just raised everyone's hype level into the stratosphere - I can't wait to see what they've got.
The fact that they're not only embracing the competitive Smash community, but actually hosting a Smash tournament is incredible.
Also, they must really, really feel confident for E3 given that video. They just raised everyone's hype level into the stratosphere - I can't wait to see what they've got.
Amazing video, lol.
I wonder if they'll do a follow up around E3 when he reactivates.
Bill Trinen sequel.
This should be quoted for the next six weeks.
GloriousBagel
Banned
That video was pretty stupid...
Downloadable demos would of course be great, but many times the demos aren't made to run on commercial Wii Us as it takes some time and work and demos are usually being worked on until the last minute.
This isn't the case all the times, but it's frequent afaik.
PreyingShark
Member
Super Smash Bros. Invitational Tournament?
You mean we'll be getting to see people who actually know how to fucking play Smash Bros. play the game so we can get a significantly more accurate assessment of it? HYPE! Hopefully they'll get at least a small amount of time to practice beforehand though.
You mean we'll be getting to see people who actually know how to fucking play Smash Bros. play the game so we can get a significantly more accurate assessment of it? HYPE! Hopefully they'll get at least a small amount of time to practice beforehand though.
Graphics Horse
Member
Weren't they meant to be showing off a new NFC game? I think that's one of things that Iwata said at the last briefing.
I expect
Majora's Mask 3D
Advance Wars 3D
Metroid 3Dread
Secret NFC game
Zelda U
as the main 5 reveals
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Thank you.
Bwahaha! We need a Terminator version, he already has the glasses!
w-watch out for the regginator
Kacho
Member
There's a good chance as NintendoGAF is crazy like that. However, in my experience these threads always get out of hand, especially as we get closer to the actual event, so I predict a lock at some point.
Or so Iwata claims. We'll see if anything comes out of it.
WWHD stayed locked at 30 fps because that's what the animations were at. I will grant that there were dips at sea.
But I will not let 3DW go. Provide any example of this, as every frame rate analyst the world over has specifically said 3DW stays locked 60 fps. See digital foundry again
KnockOneOff
Banned
Hash good video
Feels like disney m
Feels like disney m
Seriously.
While it's true, you do get some negative press leading up to it. You could also argue that the fringe, mainstream outlets that would go to a big press conference won't pay attention to this.
But none of that stuff is really proven to have an effect. Nothing shown off last year was big enough to really really energize anyone, so it's tough to say that going with a direct was an issue.
The narrative just isn't one a lot of people here want. And I don't blame them for that. We're used to winners and losers and "who had the most applause". Those are all valid metrics for fan excitement an engagement. Getting people talking about that stuff *does* work, and I think both the Wii and the PS4 are huge indicators of that. But then you have stuff where the 3DS had a huge buzz coming out of E3 but then had a flat launch.
C.Olimar788
Member
Absolutely delightful video, and I couldn't be more excited at the push they're giving Smash Bros. That tournament will no-doubt be incredibly fun to watch.
Also, gonna have to go ahead and take June 10th off of work, gonna have to find a Best Buy that's doing the SSB thing... and the closest one will likely be like an hour away. But that's all right. SSB is worth it.
Also, gonna have to go ahead and take June 10th off of work, gonna have to find a Best Buy that's doing the SSB thing... and the closest one will likely be like an hour away. But that's all right. SSB is worth it.
Kinda hard to push preproduction software onto production hardware sometimes. We'll see.
Then again why would Europe care anyways, its not like Nintendo makes FIFA.
I've never seen a Direct or E3 thread be locked before, so I'm pretty confident it won't happen now.
OminousShadow
Member
Man all that sounds awesome.
I hope one of the Best Buys near me is gonna have a Smash Bros setup though.
Gotta preorder a ticket for the hype train.
I hope one of the Best Buys near me is gonna have a Smash Bros setup though.
Gotta preorder a ticket for the hype train.
As a spectator, won't this be not as much fun to watch as a Brawl or Melee tournament? Unless the sixteen players have some type of previous experience playing the game, they will probably be largely unfamiliar with controls and the play style of the most recent iteration.
It will be cool to finally see people playing it, but I don't know, maybe I'm missing something here.
It will be cool to finally see people playing it, but I don't know, maybe I'm missing something here.
Finally, THANK YOU.