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Player's that don't use mics in MP centric games ruin them
- Thread starter jviggy43
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From what I've watched of Friday the 13th on youtube:
When the group actually knows each other, mic communication works pretty well.
Randoms are a den of despair. Squeaky voiced children competing with baritone infused toddlers for the best and brightest profanities, all while blaming everyone but themselves for their misfortunes.
When the group actually knows each other, mic communication works pretty well.
Randoms are a den of despair. Squeaky voiced children competing with baritone infused toddlers for the best and brightest profanities, all while blaming everyone but themselves for their misfortunes.
Berserking Guts
Member
I'm no authority on the subject or anything. But I think you'd be surprised by how many people suffer from the sort of life affecting social anxiety that makes wanting to set up a mic terrifying for them. And a community like Overwatch is the fucking last place in this world that socially awkward people want to engage in.
And, shock, some of these same people might enjoy the competitive aspect of OW. I know right? Selfish assholes.
And, shock, some of these same people might enjoy the competitive aspect of OW. I know right? Selfish assholes.
Cuningas de Häme
Member
Oh get stuffed mate.
I've always played without a mic and will continue to do so. I am in the upper 80% almost always in every match, at least.
It is not me who is ruining the matches, it is the selfish, idiotic players that wouldn't know what teamplay is even if it hit them in the buttocks with a 3 foot salmon.
Why would I want to hear immature little wieners yelling in the chat? And to listen when their mom is yelling at them because they've been mastrubating in the living room again and aunt Miles walked in and saw that?
Silence is golden, and I can play for my team really well without making idiotic sounds for others to hear. And I have a family, and it is immensely rude to yell at your PC when there is other people around.
But I'm old in Internet years, so what do I know?
I've always played without a mic and will continue to do so. I am in the upper 80% almost always in every match, at least.
It is not me who is ruining the matches, it is the selfish, idiotic players that wouldn't know what teamplay is even if it hit them in the buttocks with a 3 foot salmon.
Why would I want to hear immature little wieners yelling in the chat? And to listen when their mom is yelling at them because they've been mastrubating in the living room again and aunt Miles walked in and saw that?
Silence is golden, and I can play for my team really well without making idiotic sounds for others to hear. And I have a family, and it is immensely rude to yell at your PC when there is other people around.
But I'm old in Internet years, so what do I know?
ToxicPhantom
Member
As much as I agree with OP's comments, I think it depends on the game.
For example, I can play a game of Titanfall 2 without communicating with anyone and I'm fine. However, when it comes to a game like Battlefield 1, it's way better when communicating with someone.
For example, I can play a game of Titanfall 2 without communicating with anyone and I'm fine. However, when it comes to a game like Battlefield 1, it's way better when communicating with someone.
The Last Wizard
Member
One of the main reason I dislike party chat even though it's a great feature.
Vital Tundra
Member
No one should feel like they shouldn't play because they don't use a mic. That being said, if you play in a competitive mode you better use a mic.
Same. I love partychat but I started playing online during the early 360 days. It was fun entering a lobby and conversing with your friends and randoms simultaneously. I still feel like partychat is something i would miss tremendously if it was gone tomorrow. Nostalgia lenses etc.
BlazingDarkness
Member
The rogue apostrophes in the thread title are giving me a hernia.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it's a bad game if it requires mic use. So it's not really possible to 'ruin' it.
pirateluigi
Member
If I am playing with people I know I'll use a Mic, but never with randos. Too many awful experiences to ever want to try that again.
doctordoak
Member
OP I get where you're coming from, and I'm all about having good team communication. That said, after working all day at a job I hate, I can't listen to obnoxious kids yelling, playing music, or whatever. So my friends and I use private chat.
Pretty much how I see it.
Even though me personally doesn't have a problem using them, I'm terrified of angering people for using them in case I come off as "annoying" or sounding like I "won't stop talking". I'd rather not take the risk and make myself feel bad.
Fix-It Felix. Jr.
Member
I don't even know how voice chat in Overwatch on PS4 works. Can talk with my party, but not my team.
mullet2000
Member
That...doesn't make any sense.
NullPointer
Member
Devs should design the game to automatically call out necessary info then.
Even in something hardcore like Siege they could have auto-callouts like "spotted {class-name} at {location}", "{class-name} down!".
Players who play together can always achieve better, but it'd establish a solid baseline for the game to be fully playable without mics.
To be fair, overwatch does this pretty well.
In League of legends I always play with at least 2 friends on mic (usually 4 or 5) and I hate being on a lane with a random because I wont play with him on a mic to coordinate every attack (even if he ask for our teamspeak channel).
Now overwatch?, I dont take the game as something serious enough to justify using the mic ingame (I'm usually on Ts with 2 friends). But I only play quickplay or 3v3.
Also games like overwatch do a good job at communicating with pings every info you need except for quick coordination (You have an attack ping, but it can mean Im going to attack or attack now).
You can also alt+click every ability to hsow your cooldown, your stats to say you're full/low HP/mana and even shop items to say that you need to go back to buy.
Now overwatch?, I dont take the game as something serious enough to justify using the mic ingame (I'm usually on Ts with 2 friends). But I only play quickplay or 3v3.
Also games like overwatch do a good job at communicating with pings every info you need except for quick coordination (You have an attack ping, but it can mean Im going to attack or attack now).
You can also alt+click every ability to hsow your cooldown, your stats to say you're full/low HP/mana and even shop items to say that you need to go back to buy.
Now that said, what does irritate me is people that play online games with no sound, so they can't hear teammates in game. Example: In Dota, I call over voice chat the enemy mid is missing. Teammate gets ganked and killed by them. Teammate starts blaming me and saying "wtf you didn't call missing". I explain that I did, then they tell me I am supposed to just type apparently.
For a while I just had my name have (no monitor) in it for fun.
For a while I just had my name have (no monitor) in it for fun.
PatientGamer
Member
Too many racist alt-right bigots online is what's preventing me from using a mic.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I generally play as Mercy, so my job is to make sure everyone on the team is alive and well. I don't play ranked, so it's not some super serious game, and half of the team isn't wearing a headset either. But if the team is doing their jobs we can still work well for the most part. But if that Soldier wants to be foolish and run off somewhere I'm not going to risk the rest of the team's safety on chasing his dumbass down while he's getting murdered in some other part of the map.
You have to appreciate the irony of saying you wont talk to strangers because it ruins your experience then ruining the experience of the rest of your team because you refuse to communicate.
At some point you have to wonder who the actually toxic person is to the game.
There are people who use voice chat for toxic shit and there are people who become toxic on the mic because no one will listen. Both situations end with people who don't want to voice chat feeling convinced that they are right to not do so and leaves them feeling that the toxicity of voice chat is higher than it actually is.
If you are communicative and pleasant to play with the amount of toxic people in your games goes down. There are people who are just toxic and there are people who are toxic because they don't see a way to win but must play the match out anyways. If you take away the second group you will suddenly have a much more positive outlook because the first group is believe it or not, the minority.
At some point you have to wonder who the actually toxic person is to the game.
There are people who use voice chat for toxic shit and there are people who become toxic on the mic because no one will listen. Both situations end with people who don't want to voice chat feeling convinced that they are right to not do so and leaves them feeling that the toxicity of voice chat is higher than it actually is.
If you are communicative and pleasant to play with the amount of toxic people in your games goes down. There are people who are just toxic and there are people who are toxic because they don't see a way to win but must play the match out anyways. If you take away the second group you will suddenly have a much more positive outlook because the first group is believe it or not, the minority.
Sorry people who don't use mics but I do agree. It sucks when you play with randoms that don't use mics. I understand anxiety and fear of discrimination but I wish people would try more. There are plenty of good people that will talk along with shitty people. I mute any riff raff barking up a storm.
Ok lets not be disingenuous, I never called them assholes or implied they were bad people. For some people who even the smallest insult causes them a great deal of anxiety I completely understand not even taking the chance, I think thats 100% a valid argument. For those that aren't like that, the ones who are apathetic and just don't want to communicate in competitive games, its incredibly frustrating.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
I rarely voice chat with randies if at all.
But I'm usually competent enough to understand body language in a game if teammates are trying to say something or get something from me.
I usually dont care for chat as long as people generally know what they are doing. People who have no clue what they are doing or only care for their "fun" (running dumb setups for their leisure, fucking around, etc.) are what ruin games for me.
But I'm usually competent enough to understand body language in a game if teammates are trying to say something or get something from me.
I usually dont care for chat as long as people generally know what they are doing. People who have no clue what they are doing or only care for their "fun" (running dumb setups for their leisure, fucking around, etc.) are what ruin games for me.
Nah, just makes you sound like one of the many no-lifers populating online lobbies that like to act as gatekeeper because SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY!
If youre not playing ranked I think we can all agree this isn't a problem. But saying that "knowing the game means communication is unnecessary" is silly. Maybe that soldier is chasing a flanker, or going after a teleporter. Without communication you have no idea. In team MP communication is always better than no communication-and that doesn't mean that toxic players and the like aren't also determents to success either.
CrackPebbles
Member
I kinda agree, because communication and team work are very important if you want to win. Part of why I stopped playing team based competitive games is I didn't talk and didn't want to switch off my character to help bring synergy to the team I just wanted to do my own thing, and it becomes pretty boring +dealing with people who insist I switch off instead of them gets obnoxious. But at the same time I feel that if someone is so invested in winning they should probably not be playing with randoms in the first place. Play with your team, or in a ranked competitive mode maybe, I dunno. I'm on player match messing around, doesn't really seem like the right place to get on and yell about how people aren't trying enough.
PedroLumpy
Member
Quick play exists people who just want to "have fun". If you're not going to try to communicate with your team you have no business being in ranked game modes.
Alot of us are 30 something and have things going on in their households. Either the wife is sleeping or the kids. Also as annoying as it is that we're playing videogames it would be more annoying if you're constantly talking at your screen.
Thats why i dont use one, it was great back when i was in school and at home.
Thats why i dont use one, it was great back when i was in school and at home.
I've been playing PC games since '05 and PUBG is the first game where I felt the need to use a mic, since English is not my first language it's a bit harder to communicate with people in GAF's discord channel, but it works. I've heard and read every insult you can think of while playing Rocket League, so I ended up muting everything but the emotes, because communication isn't key if you're playing unranked matches just to unwind after a hard day at work.
As other users said, it really depends on the game, if you have to coordinate precisely in order to win, a mic is a must, if you don't have one, it makes it frustrating for everyone involved.
As other users said, it really depends on the game, if you have to coordinate precisely in order to win, a mic is a must, if you don't have one, it makes it frustrating for everyone involved.
Disabling all communication for dota 2 is the way to climb the ranks. To use any form of communication is risk the fragile balance of your team's morale. It usually leads to your team falling apart. Games should focus on integrating contextual ping systems instead of relying on VC, especially if the game design leads to a lot of anger and blaming
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Get some friends and use party chat op.
I feel like we've already had this thread.
I've had too many awful experiences to join open chat. I play the objective and I pick the appropriate class, but I don't want to hear singing, your crappy stereo blasting in the background, your racist tirades or your mom calling you down for dinner.
If me not joining open chat ruins the game for you, I'm totally fine with that.
Nah, I'll play whatever mode I want, thanks. Please be aware that when you're yelling about it on open chat, I won't hear whine one.
I've had too many awful experiences to join open chat. I play the objective and I pick the appropriate class, but I don't want to hear singing, your crappy stereo blasting in the background, your racist tirades or your mom calling you down for dinner.
If me not joining open chat ruins the game for you, I'm totally fine with that.
Nah, I'll play whatever mode I want, thanks. Please be aware that when you're yelling about it on open chat, I won't hear whine one.
xaosslug
Member
um, you are literally not the boss of anyone nor can you dictate what modes they do and do not have business in.
there's a reason why games don't have "mic required for ranked mode" stipulations, but nice try!
um, you are literally not the boss of anyone nor can you dictate what modes they do and do not have business in.
there's a reason why games don't have "mic required for ranked mode" stipulations, but nice try!
Have fun ruining team games then if you want, but people like that are just as toxic to the game as the ones that do use a mic but are an ass in disposition.
Uno Venova
Banned
I honestly don't know how people find multiplayer like that fun these days. It's so completely removed from what it started as on XBL.
This my situation as well.
We need to stop equating people talking about this topic as if were name calling those who choose not to communicate in MP games. How you got to your hyperbolic post is beyond me when that poster pointed out, to those choosing not to communicate in a team based competitive atmosphere, they are in fact hindering their team's ability to win. Now did he/she say they were bad people because of it? No, just that it might be ruining other's experience. Again thats fine if you are concerned about any sort of negative comments and want to avoid it all together-hell I think its even fine to say "I'm not communicating because I don't want to". But it never the less does mean that those who are trying to work as a team and playing fairly are going to suffer for it in the game. Which again, is fine if the person muting everyone is honestly that concerned about social anxiety. To those that are just apathetic about it in competitive MP scenarios, I think ruin the game.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah, the person not saying anything is just as bad as the person yelling slurs
Great reasoning there, kid
xaosslug
Member
i've been playing OW ranked and Skyforge w/o a mic and had no problem. And yes, it's been fun!
i bet you are super fun to play w/ on mic...
TimeEffect
Member
ShaoranWright
Member
I don't use mic in overwatch, but if a player has a plan and says it to the group, I'll support him/her.