intbal
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OT, but SWAT: Global Strike Team for PS2/Xbox had that feature and beat HL2 to market by a year.
I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows of any games that used it before that.
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I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows of any games that used it before that.
Chris_Rivera
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What settings did you have when HDR was on? I've had two leg OLEDs and always tune for eye comfort.
Usually that means enabling eye comfort mode, using warm color profiles, reducing contrast/brightness, disabling dynamic contrast, and also adjusting room brightness. Hdr isn't just enhanced contrast, it's a vastly higher color palate.
your monitor probably doesnt have enough nits
01011001
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yeah and in Insurgency, which was a source mod at first, you had to turn that shit off or you'd get fucked by the other team xD
TriSuit666
Banned
DV is simply a proprietary extension of HDR10, with high candle power and wider wider Colour Gamut.
Nothing other than that, really. No extra magic involved.
j0hnnix
Member
Yes, but it improves upon it by using dynamic metadata over the old format HDR10, while both HDR10 and DV can reach 10k nits the biggest improvement is dynamic over static. HDR10+ also incorporates this as well. That still leaves the question on how Xbox is able to do this if the developer has not specified their tone mapping for dolby vision, it's very interesting. At least I am not aware of it in Marvel Avengers, I could of missed it.
thtJhnn
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I had eye comfort mode ON and the usual HDR recommended settings of Oled light 100, Contrast 100. I've read those should stay at that value to get the full range of hdr. Is that the case? What other tune ups do you suggest for eye comfort? I would love to have the higher color palette, I just can't deal with the white eye strain
Dibils2k
Member
to me HDR in FALD is a mixed experience, and on OLED it doesnt a pop as much
FALD issue for me is that in darker scenes the bright highlights just gets dimmed to try and preserve the ink black
i have just turned off HDR for gaming, prefer the more vibrant colors in SDR and i also turn off the Local dimming which does produce greyish blacks but picture is consistent
FALD issue for me is that in darker scenes the bright highlights just gets dimmed to try and preserve the ink black
i have just turned off HDR for gaming, prefer the more vibrant colors in SDR and i also turn off the Local dimming which does produce greyish blacks but picture is consistent
LordOfChaos
Member
Does your TV support auto brightness, or else you can just turn the brightness down if it's actually hurting your eyes. The benefit of HDR is the expanded range between black and peak window bright, but there's still that benefit without eye searing mode on.
Jaxcellent
Member
I tend to agree, some effects are kinda cool, like the more intense shine on armour or materials and stuff like that, but in some games it looks like shit, overal im keeping it off, the SDR 4k ish image already looks amazing to me.
nkarafo
Member
I never witnessed a good HDR implementation by myself. I read about others saying how great it looks but i never saw it.
All i see is washed out colors and some bright sources (sun, lights, explosions) being brighter than usual.
I did a thread about my negative experience some time ago. Apparently, the verdict of the thread was that i played the wrong games or/and my TV sucks. And my friend's TV as well.
Meh. I'll stick to my 240hz gaming monitor then. Smoother, variable frame rates and lower input lag are far better.
All i see is washed out colors and some bright sources (sun, lights, explosions) being brighter than usual.
I did a thread about my negative experience some time ago. Apparently, the verdict of the thread was that i played the wrong games or/and my TV sucks. And my friend's TV as well.
Meh. I'll stick to my 240hz gaming monitor then. Smoother, variable frame rates and lower input lag are far better.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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On a Z9D...
Makoto-Yuki
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good HDR shouldn't blind you.
my monitor has "HDR" and when it's on it shines like fuck because it's a basic LED display so has no local dimming. blacks are super washed out cause there's just no way for it to lower the brightness of those pixels. on my OLED tv? blacks are black because of course the pixels don't turn on and the only things that are super bright are things that are meant to be bright like torches, sunlight coming in a window, car headlights, etc. yeah, the overall image is brighter but it's not BRIGHT as in burning the retinas off your eyeballs.
my monitor has "HDR" and when it's on it shines like fuck because it's a basic LED display so has no local dimming. blacks are super washed out cause there's just no way for it to lower the brightness of those pixels. on my OLED tv? blacks are black because of course the pixels don't turn on and the only things that are super bright are things that are meant to be bright like torches, sunlight coming in a window, car headlights, etc. yeah, the overall image is brighter but it's not BRIGHT as in burning the retinas off your eyeballs.
sainraja
Member
It might be my TV but I turn HDR off because the way the games end up looking is weird. Specially on the XOX and now XSX. They go a weird dark and I have messed around with calibrating the TV. I find the games look better without HDR being on. On the PS4/5, you can turn off HDR individually per title so if HDR looks fine I keep it on. On XONE and XSX, it is a system-wide option and unless someone knows how I can turn that on/off per game, please let me know!
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Makoto-Yuki
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i took a photo to try show the difference between "HDR" on my monitor and HDR on my OLED. of course you won't really get the full experience looking at through a photo but the difference is noticeable. first image is OLED and second is LED.
the LED struggles to separate the first guys jack against the second guys leg. the OLED can easily distinguish them. in other areas the OLED might look crushed but it's just because it has way more control over brightness. look at the wall just below the window. it looks clearer in the LED photo because of course the LED is shining those pixels bright when really they should be much darker which is what the OLED is doing. a more noticeable area is the building at the right center. look at the shadows. they appear much darker in the OLED than LED. also the sky appears more vivid whereas the 2nd photo is more washed out. finally if you look at the difference between brightness of the sky through the broken window and the inside of the room you can see the OLED sky is MUCH brighter and the room is darker. that's a sign of good HDR because the display can make certain parts of the screen brighter than others. the 2nd photo doesn't have as much contrast. it can make the sky bright but to do that it also has to light up the inside of the room.
the LED struggles to separate the first guys jack against the second guys leg. the OLED can easily distinguish them. in other areas the OLED might look crushed but it's just because it has way more control over brightness. look at the wall just below the window. it looks clearer in the LED photo because of course the LED is shining those pixels bright when really they should be much darker which is what the OLED is doing. a more noticeable area is the building at the right center. look at the shadows. they appear much darker in the OLED than LED. also the sky appears more vivid whereas the 2nd photo is more washed out. finally if you look at the difference between brightness of the sky through the broken window and the inside of the room you can see the OLED sky is MUCH brighter and the room is darker. that's a sign of good HDR because the display can make certain parts of the screen brighter than others. the 2nd photo doesn't have as much contrast. it can make the sky bright but to do that it also has to light up the inside of the room.
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KungFucius
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Adjust HDR settings like you are trying to wish a pregnancy test in the direction of your choice. Sounds good to me.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
What TV do you own? On cheaper TV's you might as well turn off the HDR, it's no good, worse than SDR.
SlimeGooGoo
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Bo_Hazem
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rofif
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That's true if you use it on normal lcd monitor.
On oled or hight end lcd tv it's great.
I always hated hdr but now with oled it is absolutely worth to turn on
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Bittermich
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Oh, wait until you see games in DOLBY VISION. Dolby Vision can support up to 2,5 more times as peak brightness compared to HDR.
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Shodan09
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Sea of thieves properly calibrated for HDR is a thing of absolute beauty. The daytime looks incredible and you actually get the sense that the sun reflecting on the waves is blinding you. At night, you can spot flickering torches and campfires on islands from quite a distance away. The way they illuminate the environment is really impressive.
llien
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TVs are supposed to be viewed at a distance.
Essentially, your setup is HDR + Light Amplifier.
llien
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Which goddamn TV is limited by some puny data transmission standard while being capable to dish out 2.5 times more nits, HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
Fuck Dolby Vision (it's not royalty free, as competitors) and in particular FUCK DOLBY VISION FUD, what "compared to HDR" are you on about, what "2.5 more times peak brightness", what the fuck dude?
That monitors doesn't support HDR. Other than that, yeah, PC monitors look like trash compared to mid-tier TVs from even 3 years ago...and are cheaper too.
kiphalfton
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Never said it had HDR. Just said it looks like crap. Only reason I brought up the monitor is people are always acting like IPS is/was the best thing ever. Maybe that was just in relation to TN panels, but all the same they cost a buttload considering what you get, there's backlight bleed, and I don't know where the praise comes from.