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Playstation 3 CFW & Homebrew Technical Help Thread -- morality arguments elsewhere
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MMaRsu said:
Its going to be hard for legitimate CFW users if this development causes Sony to shut down the store etc.
Although Sony definitely left those that hacked their PS3's when the exploit was available very isolated, no 'easy for the masses' exploit for later FW has appeared ...... quite the comeback from Sony in that regard.
BoboBrazil
Member
sounds like someone got npdrm keys, if this is true can't they make anything playable on cfw 3.55 now? retail and psn games?
BoboBrazil
Member
thuway said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with npdrm they can make cracked eboots for any game to let it play on 3.55, so any game on 3.6 or 3.7 should be playable.
test_account
XP-39C²
I wonder if there are some new functions in the later PS3 SDK that adds extra checks to the game. Meaning that simply editing the eboot.bin wont work because the game use some functions that arent in the 3.55 firmware.
I'm not expert, so i cant say for sure, but i dont see how it is possible to access the eboot.bin without having some access the proper decryption keys. The 3.60+ keys are not stored in the 3.55 firmware, so if the PS3 on firmware 3.55 tries to access an i.e 3.70 eboot.bin, i think that the PS3 wont understand this file because it is encrypted. I just dont see a way around this. If the 3.60+ encryption keys were stored in the 3.55 firmware, then i could understand it a bit better because then the PS3 have some access to the 3.60+ decryption keys, but this isnt the case here.Gvaz said:
BoboBrazil
Member
test_account said:
With npdrm I don't think those keys can be changed and you can edit the keys of any game to use the 3.55 keys instead on 3.55 cfw. I could be wrong though.
test_account
XP-39C²
Werent people able to pirate several of PSN games before 3.56, but now it doesnt work anymore? But i have no idea. Also, the private NPDRM keys are different from i.e 3.41 and 3.55. So i think those can be changed. Not sure about the public NPDRM keys though (public keys are used for decrypting the stuff).BoboBrazil said:
But as for the new functions i mentioned, changing the eboot.bin wont be enough to get around it. If there are some functions that are only in firmware i.e 3.70, and if a game takes advantage of this functions, i think that there will be some big compability issues if someone tries to run it on 3.55 that doesnt have these functions in the firmware. I have no idea if such new functions has been added after 3.55 though, but it could be.
BoboBrazil
Member
test_account said:
Well some of the psn games they released require 3.60. I don't think anything has really been added after 3.55 that would affect any game coming out so far...
BoboBrazil
Member
Updates on PS1 games working. Deank has updated multiman to play ps1 games through the menu and there is a fix for game saves:
- Turn on you PS3 console
- DONT open multiMAN
- In the GAME column look for Memory Card Utility (PS/PS2)
- Create a PS1 memory card
- Set it to Slot 1 (Press Triangle while selecting the Memory Card, then Assign it)
- Now, run multiMAN
- Insert your backup disc
- Load it
- Play
- Memory Card is in Slot 1, no need to mess with it anymore.
- Turn on you PS3 console
- DONT open multiMAN
- In the GAME column look for Memory Card Utility (PS/PS2)
- Create a PS1 memory card
- Set it to Slot 1 (Press Triangle while selecting the Memory Card, then Assign it)
- Now, run multiMAN
- Insert your backup disc
- Load it
- Play
- Memory Card is in Slot 1, no need to mess with it anymore.
Hydrogen Bluebird
Member
Quick question, is it really possible to downgrade PS3 slims on 3.70 to 3.55 w/o having to open up the PS3?
Naked Snake
Member
Don't like the idea of running burned CDs on the PS3, would be ideal if multiman could play PS1 games from HDD.
test_account
XP-39C²
Gvaz has already answered on this, but i would just like to add that i dont think it is possible (so far at least) to downgrade to 3.55 if your PS3 didnt originally came with firmware 3.55. I.e if you buy a PS3 that has firmware 3.65 out of the box, then i dont think that downgrade to 3.55 is possible, even if you open your PS3.Hydrogen Bluebird said:
Yeah, 3.60 probably didnt add anything, but i wonder more about 3.65, 3.70 and 3.72. Only time will tell though, if someone manage to run a 3.70 game on CFW 3.55.BoboBrazil said:
One of the PSN games that was cracked was also a quite new one, Bloodrayne Betrayal. This game came out after 3.70 was out. If this group manages to crack the latest PSN game, lets say The Heist (it is out soon), then i think it is a good indication that the NPDRM stuff still can be cracked.
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
Gvaz said:
I'm interested in the instructions. My Google-Fu is on fail at the moment.
H_Prestige
Banned
Is there a way to run burned ps2 games? Would be a nice way to bypass the region lock.Naked Snake said:
thuway said:
It is a fixed number of people on CFW, and I find it strange that the excuse trotted out as to why the 'scene' did not crack later firmwares was because anyone who wanted to jailbreak their system had.
Nonsense!
More people don't have their PS3 hacked, and the number continues to increase with each new number.
It is a stagnant scene.
test_account
XP-39C²
They showed a video of booting a 3.56 game on 3.41. In my opinion, this does not bode well for their first claim regarding 3.60+ games. I mean, why not show a 3.60 game booting when they first should show something? While cool enough that they were able to boot a 3.56 game on 3.41 firmware, the decryption keys for 3.56 are known, so it isnt exactly any huge breakthrough in my opinion.Darkone said:
Jburton said:
And it's going to continue to be stagnant until they discover/reveal a way to get on CFW.
Frankly, I'd get on it once PS4 pops/PS3's PSN isn't so die-hard checked to lock-down/near death to where hackers online aren't the norm if they allowed it. But there's no way to do that if they aren't discovering holes to allow people to go that way when they're ready.
Because the argument is that everyone who wanted to crack the ps3 was nerds who wanted linux on their system (they could dual boot or install it on literally anything else!) and to prove the ps3 is hackable. Everyone else just wants to use it for piracy or for convenience so no one who's willing to go through with it wants to get their fingers dirty because:
1. sony vs geohot
2. want to say "I did this!" and get credit but can't because of 1
3. it's selfless work and all you'll get are thankless props and nothing else. It wont land you a job either to perpetuate piracy even though there's valid functions for it (such as hard drive space is cheap and backing up your games reduces space in the house and adds redundancy)
1. sony vs geohot
2. want to say "I did this!" and get credit but can't because of 1
3. it's selfless work and all you'll get are thankless props and nothing else. It wont land you a job either to perpetuate piracy even though there's valid functions for it (such as hard drive space is cheap and backing up your games reduces space in the house and adds redundancy)
parappatherapper
Member
Kinda lost track with all this a bit but I have managed to get myself another PS3 that is running 3.60 - I assume there is no way to run CFW on this at present?
parappatherapper
Member
Gvaz said:
Thanks
The PS3 itself is an old 40 gig fat so it should be fine to downgrade.
Is there some information on how to do this anywhere? thanks again.
test_account
XP-39C²
Downgrading requires a flasher like E3 Flasher or Progskeet. These devices cost around $70 - $90 and it requiers you to open the PS3. And since you have a old PS3 Phat model, i think that soldering is required as well.parrapatheslapper said:
Personally i would try to find a used 2nd PS3 that has firmware 3.55 or lower installed.
parappatherapper
Member
Yeah that defo sounds like a better idea! cheers for the help.
test_account
XP-39C²
No problem 
drhankmccoyphd
Member
Not sure if anyone is interested, but I have a reprogrammable NAND chip which I used for 3.41, but I've sinced updated and quit CFW. I'm not sure if the chip can be reprogrammed for use with later FW but I'd like to get rid of it for around $10. Anyone interested?
criesofthepast
Member
Anyone know if the spec II GT5 update will work on 3.55? Do I just run the game and download the update as normal? Nothing bad will happen?
BoboBrazil
Member
criesofthepast said:
Most likely the update will require 3.7+
criesofthepast
Member
Damn. That would suck. I'm downloading all the updates right now (10 of them since launch) and so far no prompt to update to 3.7. But I'm only on update 2 of 10 so I won't know for sure till the 10 of 10 update.
BoboBrazil
Member
criesofthepast said:
Some of the normal updates to the game will keep it from playing on cfw. Might want to be careful downloading updates.