BruceLeeRoy
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PlayStation 4 lifetime sales pass 22.3m worldwide
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It's okay Ricky I forgive you
pixelation
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Sorry dude, well for me... if the console that you chose to buy is the one that's selling best it usually translates into better software support for it, and i can't deny the fact that i love me some drama myself, i find it fun...
King Gilga
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Well that's good, I really hope more sales = more games because the exclusive library of decent games is barren as all hell atm.
I'm not saying they aren't good features, or not that they're features I wouldn't enjoy myself. I just don't think to your average non-GAF non-Forum reading gamer that something like share play would contribute to sales as something like Xbox Live did.
If the PS2 wasn't also a cheap(ish) DVD player, would it have hit 150m units? I seriously doubt it.
If the PS4 didn't have shareplay, would it still be on 22.3m units? I can't imagine there being much difference.
Again, I'm not saying the new PS4 features are bad/average from a personal POV - I think they're pretty great, but from a sales POV, I can't see them making a noticeable impact like the things I've mentioned from other gens.
I applaud Sony, they have come a long way, in terms of profits. I still remember how they took an financial hit with:
- the tsunami disaster of Japan
- hackers leading to PSN being down for a month
- struggling HDTV sales
- software sales declining
all in the same year during the PS3 days.
- the tsunami disaster of Japan
- hackers leading to PSN being down for a month
- struggling HDTV sales
- software sales declining
all in the same year during the PS3 days.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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i dont know myself, if i had to guess why though is because of sales-age gaffers pull you in with their knowledge and just make it interesting to be in this threads
see Zhuge with his amazing graphs and charts a couple of posts above you, that;s what im talking about
im sure there are more serious reasons for other gaffers as well (is their job, or are investors, devs, etc) though
Mass Effect
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Okay, I'll try to answer your question:
It's an indication of the health of the industry. If all 3 consoles were bombing, now that wouldn't be very good for us consumers, now would it?
And specifically in the PS4's case, it selling so well means greater chances for exclusives, especially when talking about Japanese games (see: Street Fighter V, Dragon's Dogma Online, etc). This is especially relevant if you are someone who likes to play Japanese games, especially the smaller ones (in the west) like Disgaea or the Tales series, because it's obvious that the Xbox won't be getting a lot of Japanese support outside of the big blockbusters like MGS V and Final Fantasy. Conversely, it also means less chance for 3rd party exclusives on the competition's platforms. It also means better-quality ports for the PS4 for multiplatform games. games. Look at the PS3 and how bad a lot of the multiplatform games performed in comparison to the 360 (though the hardware also had a lot to do with it too).
And of course this being an enthusiast forum, people are interested in aspects of the industry, like sales, that go beyond the typical cares of more casual consumers.
There are other reasons as well. It's totally okay that people are interested in this sort of stuff, especially when it can directly affect your enjoyment of the hobby.
Well, the great feature of having BD sure did impact the PS3 at the beginning of the last gen. Just not like Sony expected
Maybe the PS3 would have sold more without BD.After explaining that to you, you don't get my "is this article real" comment?
Ok.
*dense*
If it wasn't for PS3, PS4/XB1 would still probably be using DVDs so I'm glad Sony took that bullet for the industry. Digital is my preferred format but I know most still prefer to buy physical so they can sell it to Gamestop or lend/borrow from friends.Well, the great feature of having BD sure did impact the PS3 at the beginning of the last gen. Just not like Sony expected
joecanada
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Ya but I don't like racing games, or third person shooters. Also third person action doesn't appeal to me. I don't care for cinematic games. also I don't really like fpS...
I play multiplats in the arcade next dooR.
Also indies don't really appeal to me. I also Dont like rpgs
I don't like hexagonal shapes either So the ps4 doesn't appeal to me.
Pathfinder
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My apologies, I guess I was hoping for some intelligent discourse. Not simply a statement that you don't feel an article is "real" because you don't agree with its content.
ZeroMaverick
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Thanks for all of your answers. I enjoy figuring out what drives communities to do the things they do. Interesting stuff.
Hey man, some people can't handle that the Xbox One is actually selling decently. I don't see Sony telling people how many hours of fun their customers are enjoying on a monthly basis do you? Checkmate MS.
PoweredByHentai
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I'll have to break it to you but all I see from your post is rhetorical rubbish.
Things sell well when they set the gold standard for a product. The exceptions to this are utilities (broadband included) and the oil industry because they are cartels.
Well they're not wrong.
It's likely sales for Xbox One are actually within that number.
Based on all publicly available data, historical data, manufacturer data, market research data and estimates from myself. I'd put Xbox One sales between 13-13.5m as of March 31st 2015.
vpance
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2-3 million on the shelves.
joecanada
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2: 1 is reality the only question is when
Welfare
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Likely above 13 million at this point. Above 14 million? No.
So play the non-exclusives, who cares
Actually those really suck for the most part unless you like indies
I've got them sitting at 13.3 million, or 9 million behind PS4. crazy to think Xbox sold less than 500k in Apr-Jun last year.
King Gilga
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I've already played them.
My apologies. I guess i was hoping for some intelligent actual numbers of XB1. Not simply guess estimates and using that to calculate WW sales data. Not to mention removing regions (lol) from PS4's data to show the sales gap is not that bad in MS's favor.
Pathfinder
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Sold trough is, sold in isn't.
you guys say the darnedest things
EdReedFan20
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Do you think PS3 has passed the 90 million sales mark yet? If they dropped the price of it (I think a price drop for it is overdue), I think it could come close to or surpass 100 million in sales.
tokilamockingbrd
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excellent, excellent. Is there a breakdown by region?
I mean we get USA with NDP and Japan with MC/FAM so is there any way to deduce where those sales are coming from in the rest of the world.
I mean we get USA with NDP and Japan with MC/FAM so is there any way to deduce where those sales are coming from in the rest of the world.
Not just yet. It should exceed 90 million before the end of the year though.
To be honest the price of PS3 will hold sales back and due to the age of the console I wouldn't be surprised if it even fails to reach 95 million. Especially as Sony will struggle with dropping the price.
Sony noted during the financial report today that the reason their profit wasn't as high as expected was because the PS3 saw lower hardware and software sales.
During the PS2 launch the PS1 continued to sell an additional 30 million units thanks to availability in additional reasons and a low final price of $49.
During the PS3 launch the PS2 was already at a low price and much more attractive than the PS3 and so ended up selling an additional 50 million units with a final price of $99.
When the PS4 launched it was at an excellent price and sales have exploded whilst the PS3 hasn't see a price drop and that gives no one a reason to buy a PS3 at this point. The PS3 still hasn't officially dropped lower than $200 and so we've only seen an additional 7.10m units sold since the PS4 came out. I doubt that number will double before the PS3 is discontinued.
EdReedFan20
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Would you be surprised if they decided to release a budget PS3 that has no optical disc drive, and is mainly served as a PSNow box, but still compatible with all of PS3's PSN downloads? Would there even be a market for such a device?
12.5M seems plausible but that 14.3M is a "hell no"
this shipped BTW.
assuming it Xbox one year over year was flat, then that means they were shipping only 400k a month. ps4, by contrast, was shipping 800k a month.
1.2M / 3 months Xbox One
2.4M / 3 months PS4
Yes I would be surprised if that happens and I don't think there would be a market for it at all. Yes it might get the cost down but it wouldn't suit the audience buying it (e.g developing nations with poor internet who can now afford a PS3).
At this point it actually makes more sense to ride it out and discontinue the console than it does to re-release a slimmer model or try too hard to make it cheaper. Whilst I don't see it being the same as Microsoft discontinuing the original Xbox straight after the 360, I wouldn't be surprised if we started to hear about PS3 going end of line in certain regions this time next year with 2016 being the phase out year for the console.
Shipments have really dropped off and even a price cut (which will make Sony lose money) won't help too much.
PS4 needs to be the focus now.
Misterinenja
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Great gif.
OT, but the Japanese version makes me laugh every time a boss is killed.
YOU HUNTED
...What? Yea I... guess I did.
This must be the reason that thread disappeared from the front page lol. I was looking for it earlier today. Amazing.
Felessan
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Sony mentioned that they have problems with cost reduction of PS3, probably because Cell and Rambus RAM are custom chips and contract with NVidia is not that good. Removing optical drive will give them ~20$ - it's not really enough to make a difference.
Welfare
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Not seeing that happen just yet.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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As long as Sony keeps providing us with games to play (there's a lot) they'll be fine.
joecanada
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It's not a question of when? Are you saying ms will just keep shipping no matter and never admit 2:1?
pixelation
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That'd be something...
Please tell me you have a link to this .
Misterinenja
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haha I saw that. Bloodborne = The answer to every question
PoweredByHentai
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What are the conditions for a regular member to be perma-banned? Because it looks like people are not learning from it at all.
Omnistalgic
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that's not accurate. It did close the gap in U.S. PS4 is just outselling again in smaller increments every month so the gap is growing back to what it was before last Holiday season.
MS shipped more X1 units than PS4 for Novemeber/December last year though. Even if PS4 gets the lead back to where it was or higher, I wouldn't say those efforts were worthless.
HDDVD most likely.