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PlayStation 4 sell through in the US has surpassed 30 million
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Slings and Arrows
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I'm surprised the UK number is lower than Germany. Microsoft must have made a resurgence in the UK and chomped in to Ps4 numbers a little.
Portugeezer
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Isn't the PC pretty popular in Germany? They might not really need an Xbox and decide to get a PS4 for exclusives.
DeltaPolarBear
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That's just proof that sales of consoles is no longer concentrated as they were used to. That a global strategy is the only way to go. Much like how Hollywood can't assume they only make movies that sell well in the US, games and consoles are now marketed everywhere.
If only 30% of PS4 are sold in USA, then clearly you can't be depend on the US market for profitability.
GHG
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mejin
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That's why some always remember US market is more than 60% of xbox market and if they are losing there it means 50M LTD worldwide for XBOX One is highly improbable.
Anyway, Sony could go for the numbers in the US market if they offered ps4 at $200 all year. They are not interested it seems.
Gamernyc78
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Great numbers idk wtf other ppl are talking about. It's headed to tht 120 million goal at the end of it all globally 
Slings and Arrows
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If sony dropped the price of the OG Ps4 and Slim, to have a stock clear-out ready for next year, they would hit 120 million in no time.
I expect HUGE discounts at Xmas. Hopefully a £100 PS4 bundle.
I expect HUGE discounts at Xmas. Hopefully a £100 PS4 bundle.
HeresJohnny
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It's way overdue; they've priced themselves out of entire markets by staying where they are. Hopefully they'll wake up, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Evilms
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Already it is not 29 but rather a little less than 20 million who represent the rest of the world.
Xbox since the original was big in UK. It never had much luck in mainland Europe, heck, in 2008 the PS3 surpassed the 360 there.
Likley most, if not, all of asia is Playstation, in Latin America, Xbox is big in Mexico and Brazil, but in the later, its more of a tie competition or a bit more for PS4. I've heard that in the rest of South America, Playstation dominates.
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Slings and Arrows
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They need to clear out the old stock of OG ps4's at some point. I can't imagine it's still cheap for them to manufacture, unless it's offset by the PS4PRO.
Microsoft on the other hand, need to take the hit and drop their console prices by 50% across the board. Use it as a springboard for Gamepass and beat Sony to the launch of Next gen
Considering the gaming history, we are actually getting less price cuts.
In 32 bit era, the PS1 and 64 were 100 dollars by August 99, Sony then cut the PS1 price one last time in 2002 for 50.
In 128 bit era, the PS2 was 130 dollars in 2006, had a final cut of 99 by 2009. Gamecube was 99 dollars by fall 2003, Xbox followed suit with PS2 and it was 150 by 2004.
In the last generation? Xbox 360 final price was 199 dollars, and that was introduced in September 2009, PS3 died at around 250.
In this one? Only one price cut made for each console (excluding that MS removed Kinect from Xbox One to slash 100 bucks months after the release).
baphomet
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IAmLegendary
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Meh US market is tiny compared to China
Imagine if just 10% of China had PS4
thats over 100 million unit sold
Imagine if just 10% of China had PS4
thats over 100 million unit sold
SonGoku
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prinz_valium
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sunnysideup
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Is it going to surpass ps1 or ps2?
Bitmap Frogs
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The AmericaBox that was promised.
Stilton Disco
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From everything credible I've ever read the US is more than 60% of the XO's sales, I've even heard as high as 70%.
We've no idea what the actual numbers are of course, but I'd certainly say 60% is the minimum, which would definitely mean it's somewhere under 50m still, which marries up with everything else I've seen previously.
Evilms
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Wii U :
Japan : 3.3 million (media create)
North America : 6.4 million (npd)
Europe : 3.65 million ( https://web.archive.org/web/2016102...torical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1609.pdf )
Total LTD : 13.56 million (nintendo)
So rest of world : ~200K
The wii u is a commercial disaster whether in the United States, Europe or Japan, so it was not in the other markets that it was going to be a success.
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a multicultural team of v
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It is almost certainly past the PSX right now, PS2 would likely require some sharp price drops to achieve.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Aceofspades
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That's why NPD figures are less relevant for Playstation than Xbox and Switch.
thelastword
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I hope this puts things in perspective for folks once and for all.....US (does not equal) WORLD....The majority of PS sales are in ROTW...…..
Yet 30 million consoles in the US alone is the biggest console installbase in the US by far this generation....
Yet 30 million consoles in the US alone is the biggest console installbase in the US by far this generation....
Piku_Ringo
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Hold on, the console market is dead in japan, so shouldn't those numbers be waaay lower for the ps4 there than two million less than the ps3s?
DeepEnigma
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No, they are accurate.
Stilton Disco
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Consoles being 'dead' over there gets blown way out of proportion.
It's declined massively since last gen and the generation before that, but thats more indicative of how ridiculously massive it used to be, not a statement of how relatively healthy it currently really is.
I mean there's a reason it still has so many games made there and such a high number of titles that still never make it outside Japan, or if they do they're so niche as to seemingly barely cover translation costs.
EverydayBeast
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PS4 features the greatest AAA titles (Last Guardian, Uncharted 4 etc.), and you could read what you want with the foreign numbers, US numbers don't surprise me.
Rhazer Fusion
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I agree. I was expecting at least 50 million or something.
TLZ
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JimboJones
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10.47 million units for a Playstaton console was a huge contraction from the PS2
Bryank75
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Maybe 45m at the end of lifecycle. Again, depends on discounts.
They should have it down to 200 to 220 for slim by now to introduce more potential PS5 customers though.
JordanN
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Hope you like your cross-gen games when PS5 launches.
I wonder if Sony considers this to be both a blessing and a curse. The PS4 is a huge success but at the same time, it's also going to get in the way of the PS5's marketing.
For Microsoft, it's less of problem when going from Xbox One/X to the the successor, makes you wonder if they will take advantage of this by launching first again (but with weaker harder) or giving Playstation even more market share if they debut last.
I wonder if Sony considers this to be both a blessing and a curse. The PS4 is a huge success but at the same time, it's also going to get in the way of the PS5's marketing.
For Microsoft, it's less of problem when going from Xbox One/X to the the successor, makes you wonder if they will take advantage of this by launching first again (but with weaker harder) or giving Playstation even more market share if they debut last.
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DeepEnigma
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Cross-gen early on, like every gen.
Stefan.North
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I don't see PS4 stopping before at least 120 mil. and thats from someone who dislikes Sony.
JordanN
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The difference though is diminishing returns.
Like going from a cross-gen game on PS1 to PS2 felt like completely different experiences. You also still had a lot of developers making exclusive games that demonstrated the power early into the system's life(i.e Grand Theft Auto 3).
But what happens when PS4 games play very similar to PS5 ones, just with turned down settings? That's where I'm imagining the scenario how will Sony juggle the two systems without jeopardizing either success. AAA games also take a lot longer to make, so it could be years after the PS5 launches do we see a game that truly can't be done on last gen.
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DeepEnigma
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I'm not concerned. Things will go just like this gen went, and the gen before it.
The diminishing returns will not be what one thinks. It's a fun buzzword however.
The diminishing returns will not be what one thinks. It's a fun buzzword however.
Rhazer Fusion
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Agreed. The systems imo are still too expensive. They should of been dropped in price ages ago. The systems are still selling well, but the prices probably hold them back some.
How much of the decline is due to the prices of consoles/games?