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PlayStation Meeting 2016 | Conference Thread [Over]
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The ElectrifyingAldo
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The hyperbole in this thread.
Has already been said, but for £349 you are getting a more powerful GAMES MACHINE than the current PS4 and most certainly the current Xbox.
This was all about "the gamers" but people aren't seeing it because they are whining about the GAMES MACHINE at a very aggreesive price, aimed at both existing owners and newcomers alike, not having 4K UHD Blu-Ray player.
This machine is aimed at gamers primarily. There is no doubt about it.
The conference wasn't great, but that really is because everything is in the hands of the developers here. Sony chose to show off the shinier graphics capability (a poor choice in my opinion) but other devs could approach things differently. It isn't inconceivable that "Pro mode" features in one game could be that of "res", "visual/effects enhancements" or "frame rate"
Has already been said, but for £349 you are getting a more powerful GAMES MACHINE than the current PS4 and most certainly the current Xbox.
This was all about "the gamers" but people aren't seeing it because they are whining about the GAMES MACHINE at a very aggreesive price, aimed at both existing owners and newcomers alike, not having 4K UHD Blu-Ray player.
This machine is aimed at gamers primarily. There is no doubt about it.
The conference wasn't great, but that really is because everything is in the hands of the developers here. Sony chose to show off the shinier graphics capability (a poor choice in my opinion) but other devs could approach things differently. It isn't inconceivable that "Pro mode" features in one game could be that of "res", "visual/effects enhancements" or "frame rate"
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Funny how all these gamers turned into movie watchers
And probably 2% have a 4K tv...
I have a 4K HDR Sony and I could care less about playing HD bluray.
Buy disc for $30 or stream for $5...
have you ever streamed a movie on netflix at the highest quality vs watching it on a bluray disc?
+ a decent audio system.
full hd streaming is bullshit.. vs physical content
Naw, this was a media event. They have demo stations to show off 4K and HDR gaming, and probably side-by-side stuff as well. They just happened to also stream the event for people at home, but people got way too excited.
That kind of person is going to buy a standalone UHD player then.
Already Torn
Banned
Looks like the Pro has an optical output.
Scousefury
Member
I know people are going to dump on me but do people still buy Blu-rays? I bought shit load of DVD's, started buying Blu-rays. Last 2 years? Star Wars and Intersteller. Its sucks for the nerd fights that Xbox 1s has a feature thats the Pro does not but i really won't miss it tbh.
Virtua Ben
Member
There are too many damn PS4 Pro threads. Like, whoa.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I hope this thing has better cooling.
People, there's still TGS and PlayStation Experience. Yes, this press conference was bad, there's no denying that. But it wasn't supposed to be about games and 4K wasn't conceivable on a YouTube livestream anyway.
Relax.
There's a Mario game on iOS.
And the Pro is $400.
All is cool.
Relax.
There's a Mario game on iOS.
And the Pro is $400.
All is cool.
Jacksinthe
Banned
This is not the iterative approach I was hoping for. PSVR this winter it is.
Sanctuary
Member
Unless the standalones drop significantly over the next year, I might actually end up buying an Xbone S just for the player and controller.
Sure Enthusiast level want wired plugged into modem for speed, best Reciever with the newest chips for sound and no lag input from controller to screen with highest refresh.
I'm just not sure if physical media is important if most have internet connections that can handle streaming 4K.
Guess time will tell.
Theonik
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This is because framerate is a choice not a concession. Developers choose to push more impressive games both visually and in terms of features because they know or at least are convinced that's what sells games. A game that went all out on 30FPS will be a game that its developers felt they needed to push visuals as a priority. With more power comes even more impressive visuals. A game that had drops at 30 might now be locked at 30 but devs won't do 30 to 60 conversions as a priority.
Candidates for 30 to 60 boosts are games that wanted to hit 60 but were doing 40-50 with drops and the devs decided to lock at 30 for consistency. Those games might be upgraded to 60. But there really isn't that many candidates and this is a decision that gets made quite early on in a game's life. PC is different. There is no decision to be made, because you can always just throw more hardware at the problem till it goes away. It will still reflect on how much extra power you need and how the title is optimised though.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
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Greatest games? what games?
Papacheeks
Banned
Did anyone see the other thread with the Ars technica break down of PS4 PRO:
Unparalleled experience for 4K owners and HDTV owners
The one bolded is the sole reason I am confident the PS4 Pro is the way it is. Makes Scorpio look like a new generation, that can cause hug rift between versions of games.
I think they made the right decision even though no Ultra Bluray is rather odd?
Unparalleled experience for 4K owners and HDTV owners
The one bolded is the sole reason I am confident the PS4 Pro is the way it is. Makes Scorpio look like a new generation, that can cause hug rift between versions of games.
I think they made the right decision even though no Ultra Bluray is rather odd?
Darryl M R
Member
Dropping my PSVR pre-order for PS4Pro.
justsomeguy
Member
where are the pictures of it?
Lol...why would they? Those are for very early adopters...the xbox one s or a theoretical playstation 4k bluray could do the same thing for much less while also playing games
Honestly Microsoft better nail their fixes to audio bitstreaming on the xbox one because they should have that market on lock. Along with uwp app stuff the xbox one is looking to be a good 10 foot htpc replacement
Sanctuary
Member
Except that most don't have that yet. The last estimate was that 80% of the US households are not 4K streaming capable yet.
Pjsprojects
Member
Come on Xbox team just update the original Xbox one to HDR please.
Four_Chamber
Member
As somebody looking to get into 4K gaming and UHD blu-rays, I'm going to wait for the Scorpio. Much more powerful system and a shade over a year away- I can wait a little bit while the TV situation clarifies.
No PS4Pro or PSVR for me.
Waiting for Scorpio. If I'm going to drop 400-500 dollars I want to see a leap. I also want a 4k TV first before I get one of these devices and I don't have one yet. By the time Scorpio rolls around hopefully I will.
If I was just buying a PS4 now, though, I'd obviously go PS4Pro. The price point is good for what it is, and I was expecting it to be more.
The relatively low-key tone of the conference implied that Sony knows they've got a bit of a tough sell on their hands here. Cerny in particular sounded like he knew he was peddling some snake oil at times.
Waiting for Scorpio. If I'm going to drop 400-500 dollars I want to see a leap. I also want a 4k TV first before I get one of these devices and I don't have one yet. By the time Scorpio rolls around hopefully I will.
If I was just buying a PS4 now, though, I'd obviously go PS4Pro. The price point is good for what it is, and I was expecting it to be more.
The relatively low-key tone of the conference implied that Sony knows they've got a bit of a tough sell on their hands here. Cerny in particular sounded like he knew he was peddling some snake oil at times.
JetBlackPanda
Member
So you can direct connect with USB (signal sent via USB) for fighting games and stuff with the DS4.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Those of us beta testing 4.0, does that mean our PS4's already are HDR enabled?
Papacheeks
Banned
Same ^
I actually think it was purposely low key to relieve a lot of the backlash when we first heard about console refreshes with higher specs.
I can now put down my torch and pitchfork.
Relax, only HDR, not UHD.
InquisitorAles
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JetBlackPanda
Member
this is what I was saying earlier.
what do you do with a XboxOne Scorpio that is SO much more powerfull??
you might as well have a new gen at this point.
ChuChuRocket
Member
That bro I will stick to my Ps4 Thank you
Yeah streaming is a poor substitute for disc quality...except perhaps vudu
i'm not seeing the point on that line...so from what we can tell the hdr is not with 4k...so only hdr'ed 1080p...and it isn't on games because that would require more processing power (microsoft talked about the bump on the s being for that)
So all the hdr tvs are 4k...i guess if you are in the situation where you just bought a crazy expensive hdr 4k tv but don't want to buy a pro?
Theonik
Member
It uses the same stand as a the new slim. The design is meant to look like a fancier slim but isn't meant to stand out but accessories are cross compatible. But this should be able to stand without an additional stand due to its size like OG PS3.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Did they say anything about wireless standards on this thing? does it have better cooling? does it have optical?
Nope.
manny10032
Member
I dont get it. Most messages i see here are saying "4k doesnt benefit me" yet they cry that the Pro doesnt include a 4k player
Sanctuary
Member
I just don't understand the point of adding HDR to the regular PS4s either since HDR is only streamed through 4K anyway. Unless it's like you said, and the HDR that the systems will handle will only be from games, and it will only be 1080p. Which won't be accurate even on the Pro.
Lionel Richie
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War is hell.
wapplew
Member
Only a little disappointed they don't mention 60fps at all.
But no spec upgrade tell me that Sony have a clear vision and not affected by what MS try to do. I like that.
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