I know it's not easy, but when I see small developers adding exactly that to their games I do wonder how hard it really is.
Also, it's not like there is no framework to work with. I mean, you don't need to start from scratch.
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PlayStation Move Ships 10.5 Million Units
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I know it's not easy, but when I see small developers adding exactly that to their games I do wonder how hard it really is.
Also, it's not like there is no framework to work with. I mean, you don't need to start from scratch.
sixteen-bit
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Make it 10,500,001 once HOTD4 comes to PSN, because that will probably sell me.
AcceptableGhost
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Given that other devs have done it in short time periods (also given that this information on how they did it - including source code - is freely available to ND as well) it would be fairly easy for them to incorporate it. Maybe the testing/cert for it they don't believe is worth it but the actual incorporation would be easy.
I have not tried move.me but I assume the move has APIs that just give straight up X/Y/Z axis information that can be easily used for camera movement. As for the rest of the controller (the buttons) - unless their code is horrendous mapping to the move buttons should be trivial (like 5 minutes trivial - I made code before that does keyboard/controller simultaneous mapping easy in an extremely short time).
Reallink
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Exactly. I mean if the Hydrophobia developer managed to add a semi competent implementation, ND sure as shit could without batting an eye. More than anything, I think ND didn't want to deal with the Multiplayer playing field bitching as it seems like they had these delusions that UC3 MP was going to be as big as CoD, and they didn't want to do anything to muddy the waters, fracture the player base, or draw any kind of community ire.
OldJadedGamer
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Aside from the PR part of it, combining these numbers makes it hard for third party devs to see the real support of it and who actually has a Move in their homes when thinking of making a game for the system. Using straight numbers along with the Kinect, one Kinect sold means one potential customer but one Move wand sold doesn't mean each potential Move customer.
The thing that would have sold me on the Move was a Hot Shots Golf patch but SCEA was so stupid, they never released it in the States.
The thing that would have sold me on the Move was a Hot Shots Golf patch but SCEA was so stupid, they never released it in the States.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Wait, wait, wait.. Back the fuck up. There was a Move patch for HSG? Do you know if it was released in Europe?
Edit: it was! *mind blown* I need to buy HSG then.
I think the difficult part is not so much to get the data across, but to design the whole camera control interface, cursor behavior etc. But then again, there are plenty of examples out there of very well designed interfaces, so much of the "thinking" has already been done.
Moreover I suppose those 3rd party tools out there do come with their own templates with regards to FPS/TPS camera for you to quickly start fiddling with. Albeit they are mostly based on the Wii tech. I do really want to see a shooter adopting the fixed reticule solution of PlayStation Move Heroes. It drives me crazy it hasn't been replicated yet despite being actually the easiest to implement cos it doesn't need any sort of (almost) reworking of the camera systems (no bounding box, no cursor projection issues etc).
Yep.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Yes. Don't expect awesomeness tho. Read my first impressions at the link above.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Dildo is all you need.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
LBP2 and Gal Gun justifies this peripheral's existence for me 
Aizu_Itsuko
Member
The same happens to their first party games; great quality but they fail to capitalize on it in most cases. Meanwhile Nintendo and Microsoft can make even so-so games have big sales.
Baconsammy
Banned
Nope, you'll be part of the 10,500,000 since that's "shipped".
outunderthestars
Banned
I keep wanting to buy one for HOTD Overkill, but can't justify the price to play a single game.
I thought Sony changed their policy and now the company never mentions shipped numbers but sold numbers only. It was kind of a corporation deal when they entered this international corp club, or something.
pieatorium
Member
Go easily
haadim
Member
Wow. The gulf between perception and reality is staggering indeed.
Go read the thread title again.
Not many people would even bother with the navigation controller.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Shipped isn't sold and Sony haven't supported Move like MS has aggressively done with Kinect.
I think Kinect is a heap of shite, but at least it's got a steady stream of games for it and a few killer apps. Move lacks both of those.
Luckily there's 3 ports of excellent Wii light gun games to keep me happy (HOTD:OK, HOTD3, DS:E) and to keep my Move in use, plus the prospect of HOTD4 soon....
...but that's not gonna keep the people Sony thought would buy Move happy.
My biggest gripe with Move was how Capcom failed to make RE5:Gold play like RE4:Wii. How the heck did they mess up the controls when they should have been the exact same?
I think Kinect is a heap of shite, but at least it's got a steady stream of games for it and a few killer apps. Move lacks both of those.
Luckily there's 3 ports of excellent Wii light gun games to keep me happy (HOTD:OK, HOTD3, DS:E) and to keep my Move in use, plus the prospect of HOTD4 soon....
...but that's not gonna keep the people Sony thought would buy Move happy.
My biggest gripe with Move was how Capcom failed to make RE5:Gold play like RE4:Wii. How the heck did they mess up the controls when they should have been the exact same?
I read the title, and I still don't have an answer to my question. The PsPgo didn't live up to the expectations of Sony and, I believe, is no longer being sold. Now, the PS move does not push hardware or software sales, and if it isn't selling money is being lost.
Does anyone know which has caused more of a loss for Sony?
Phife Dawg
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#gamechanger
Just goes to show how Sony are diverting resources these days. Their management really seems clueless at times.
Should've made something that brings something new to the table this gen if they wanted it to be successful.
PSV ads were all over the place here in Germany. Also I do remember move specific ads from back in the days. But why throw good money after bad? Maybe if they made support mandatory it could've seen at least some minor success. Lack of interest from all sides just killed this thing swiftly.
Lulz.
You consider that success? Both are dead in the water. But the PSPGo surely was the bigger fail.
I remember when Wii Balance Board was on the verge to outshipping the PS3.
Still doesn't have a must-have game. All it has are awful kids games and Wii rip-offs. The technology is good but the support from Sony was beyond terrible, there is nothing software-wise to distinguish this device from the Wii.