This has the potential to effect everyone.How can you hate something that doesn't effect you or anyone else in any way what-so-ever?
This has the potential to effect everyone.How can you hate something that doesn't effect you or anyone else in any way what-so-ever?
Online gaming has no effect on singleplayer games and how they are designed.Maybe everyone should of denounced online gaming in the early days (14.4 Kbps or even baud modems...before my time though) because of high ping times/lag. Maybe everyone should of denounced streaming media in the early days because of low resolution/compression/buffering. My point is any emerging technology isn't going to be a "home run" right out of the gate. As far as how it works today...given the right conditions...streaming gaming works extremely well. PS Now has worked great for me and I've put in over 1,200 hours of game time on OnLive. I've been gaming since the Atari 2600 days and I'm completely fine with streaming game. Will it ever become the "de facto" medium? I don't think so...not for a long time at least but I do think it will make an excellent addition to the current physical media and digital distribution options we have today.
Online gaming has no effect on singleplayer games and how they are designed.
Streaming media has no effect on how it is created
Latency for streaming games is never going to go away until science finds a way to break the laws of physics and send data faster than the speed of light.
Even in some perfect world where they place a data centre within 100km of everyone everywhere and they manage to reduce the lag of encoding + decoding to be effectively 0 and they fix the problems with routing connections to people (telia anyone?) and noone uses wifi in their homes anymore... even then you'll still be looking at at least an extra frame of input lag. (right now and for a long time to come it will be a lot more than that)
If streaming becomes the default way to play games it will drastically influence how games are designed (for the worse)
Just because you are apparently immune (or oblivious) to several frames of delay in your games and can put up with onlive doesn't mean it isn't highly undesirable.
But hey, as long as you get yours bro
All except for the part where the actual free to play games aren't tied to the service...That's the reason for online multiplayer being locked behind the PS Plus paywall. It's not copying Microsoft, it's because they want you to get used to having the "free" games tied to the service.
Games as a service is certainly going to grow, maybe even beyond its heyday at the height of arcades, but I very much doubt it's ever going to outright replace games as a product. They'll be alternative choices in most cases.Games as a service, and not a product, is here, and from what I've seen online, people are all-too-happy to jump in.
So... every console manufacturer needs to include hardware-based BC for all of their consoles forever?
All except for the part where the actual free to play games aren't tied to the service...
Games as a service is certainly going to grow, maybe even beyond its heyday at the height of arcades, but I very much doubt it's ever going to outright replace games as a product. They'll be alternative choices in most cases.
Games as a service, and not a product, is here, and from what I've seen online, people are all-too-happy to jump in.
Stupid ridiculous video.
True, because it is potentially awesome. If you'd have told me 20 years ago that at some point Id be able to watch hundreds of episodes of se of the best TV shows ever made and thousands of movies whenever I wanted for about the price of two chicken sandwiches a month, I'd have called you crazy because nothing that offers that great a value could be real. And yet, there's Netflix.
You now have the potential for a similar game service, streaming potentially hundreds of games, anywhere, at any time, and you want people to think it sucks? Absurd.
And BTW, we still have new shows on regular TV, and even those TV shows made for streaming services get physical releases. As long as there's money to be made, games will continue to be sold on physical media. Any claims to the contrary are baseless fear mongering.
Online gaming has no effect on singleplayer games and how they are designed.
Streaming media has no effect on how it is created
If streaming becomes the default way to play games it will drastically influence how games are designed (for the worse)
Just because you are apparently immune (or oblivious) to several frames of delay in your games and can put up with onlive doesn't mean it isn't highly undesirable.
But hey, as long as you get yours bro
True, because it is potentially awesome. If you'd have told me 20 years ago that at some point Id be able to watch hundreds of episodes of se of the best TV shows ever made and thousands of movies whenever I wanted for about the price of two chicken sandwiches a month, I'd have called you crazy because nothing that offers that great a value could be real. And yet, there's Netflix.
Do you hate streaming music/movies?
So, this dude is essentially getting upset over an optional service that doesn't affect him playing his PS4 in any way, shape or form?
Tried the beta. Couldn't do it. CRAP image quality, and even just a split second input delay was enough for me to hate it.
So, this dude is essentially getting upset over an optional service that doesn't affect him playing his PS4 in any way, shape or form?
But south parks combat requires a quick response...It could be fine for games that don't require real time interaction or quick response. Just like mobile games are okay for extremely simple or menu based games.
I'd love to rent and play south park stick of truth on PS now.
I haven't played it, is it like paper Mario or something? Thought it was just menu based RPG combat.But south parks combat requires a quick response...
Yeah you have to time your attacks to get crits and blocking is time based also.I haven't played it, is it like paper Mario or something?
What about the ownership and archival aspect?ignorance.
streaming games will be the future. tech will only get better. someone has to start from somewhere.
there will come a time when the speed of the data going back and forth will be as fast or faster than what we have for local machines.
Unlike DD, I can't see this being anywhere near as popular. I was much more into the DD movement than this. Even if it's just an optional service bringing some added games and backwards compatibility.Did you even watch the video?
He's saying that he's worried that if it's successful, how it can harm gaming if Console Makers and Publishers take advantage of it exclusively, much like they do with things now to wring every dollar they can out of you, and how it could ruin the legacy of that game.
What about the ownership and archival aspect?
They're afraid that streaming will become good enough to replace localized playing and that the renting model will be pushed instead of ownership. That still hasn't happened with other digital content though, as you can freely stream or purchase/store digital films today, and I doubt publishers will ever take away the option for you to drop $60 on the spot for ownership.
He is talking about the future. More games than the PS4 can use streaming technology in the future."You can't access or alter the files that make the game"
Ummmm okay I guess if you want to hack into ps3 games and tinker with code this is bad.
He is talking about the future. More games than the PS4 can use streaming technology in the future."No modding, no homebrewing"
Uh it's not a PC so yeah.
This is about the future. You don't know about the future, and neither does he."This will eliminate competitive play"
No it won't. Discs are still coming out.
He means that it uses no data past the initial download. It is on your drive and you can access it at anytime. No downtime or server issues can stop you. Licensing issues are another thing."When you purchase a digital game you can access that on your hard drive"
No not really.
You can use an external drive to backup 90% of everything on consoles."You can crack a backup off your hard drive"
On consoles no you can't unless they are hacked.
You don't know about the future. I don't think it will either, but who knows."Sony might make Killzone 6 exclusive to it and then after five years say we can't stream it anymore so they can control gaming history mannnnnnnnnn! What if sony closes then you can't stream games!"
No they won't.
What about the ownership and archival aspect?
He is talking about the future. More games than the PS4 can use streaming technology in the future.
He is talking about the future. More games than the PS4 can use streaming technology in the future.
This is about the future. You don't know about the future, and neither does he.
He means that it uses no data past the initial download. It is on your drive and you can access it at anytime. No downtime or server issues can stop you. Licensing issues are another thing.
You can use an external drive to backup 99% of everything on consoles.
You don't know about the future. I don't think it will either, but who knows.
.
Well, music can be at least.Of course not. Music and Movies arent interactive.
Sure was the direction Xbox One was originally heading into. They had to cool their jets, but now there are an awful lot of digital access/streaming services popping up like this and EA Access, with EA Access already starting to pull some exclusivity shenanigans. With the other publishers making it clear they are watching and coming up with their own services. When Xbox went back on their DRM plans I said way back then it wasn't over, that now it was just going to get more insidious. MS and these companies tried being just blunt and forceful with their tactics and it didn't turn out good. Now these companies, including Sony, are going to go with the persuasive, gradual pied piper tactic and lead gamers where they want with a big 'ol smile on their faces the whole time.
Everything has a start, this is the start of this generation and i'm wondering what its going to end up looking like. Last gen started out like normal, then when ended up with $60 games, sections of those games taken out and sold back to us as day one DLC, Horse Armor, paying extra for content already on the disc that we bought and all the while gamers defending all of these actions against our best interests. It's like an extreme ongoing case of Stockholm Syndrome.