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Playstation Store 08/13/09 IS MAHVEL BAYBEE!

netguy503

Member
topofuji said:
All the reasons I see you guys stating are "uh, it only has a code" or "it's just a case"! That holds no weight in the thought that it may become a valuable collector's item down the road and go for a pretty penny on Ebay.

You serious....no wait, Ebay buyers ARE pretty stupid sometimes. You may have a point.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
bigosc2k said:
Why is PSN torturing by not putting up the MVC2?

Because SCEA sucks, that's why.

I fully expect it to be up at midnight Friday, just like Biohazard took forever.
 
vazel said:
Just think on it for a second. You're hoping a container will appreciate in value. You usually need actual content for something to be worth something.

And most importantly it doesn't matter wether it how limited it is. It's all about wether people actually want it. Do you really think that box you have is that neat?

Just think on it for a second. A starbucks brand insulated cold cups retail for less than 20 dollars, and they are essentially just a container, and they do appreciate in value. They go for 240 bucks on ebay.
 

Ashhong

Member
topofuji said:
All the reasons I see you guys stating are "uh, it only has a code" or "it's just a case"! That holds no weight in the thought that it may become a valuable collector's item down the road and go for a pretty penny on Ebay.

take it from someone who resells a lot of stuff. nothing about the retail package will be in high demand. the only reason the PS2 version was in high demand was because you couldnt get the actual game anywhere else. you MAY make a dollar or 2 if youre lucky. ebay fees for video games have gone up and you probably wont even make that. seriously, its worth nothing.

is the game not up on US store? i hope i can dl it after putting in my voucher code...stupid system update

xS1TH L0RDx said:
Just think on it for a second. A starbucks brand insulated cold cups retail for less than 20 dollars, and they are essentially just a container, and they do appreciate in value. They go for 240 bucks on ebay.

its really not the same. if you dont see why...i just dont know what to say.
 

vazel

Banned
xS1TH L0RDx said:
Just think on it for a second. A starbucks brand insulated cold cups retail for less than 20 dollars, and they are essentially just a container, and they do appreciate in value. They go for 240 bucks on ebay.
ugh please edit me out. I edited out my post. I don't want anymore part in this.
 

Cruzader

Banned
I would buy(might actually) the boxed version and then get the PS2 disk and it inside or something. For $15, its an alright deal. Its not like you are spending more on it. And Sekoku, you must hate free games. (Socom/PAIN) Next time you get something for free on PSN, just give it to me so you wont end up complaining about it :D
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Cruzader said:
I would buy(might actually) the boxed version and then get the PS2 disk and it inside or something. For $15, its an alright deal. Its not like you are spending more on it. And Sekoku, you must hate free games. (Socom/PAIN) Next time you get something for free on PSN, just give it to me so you wont end up complaining about it :D

No, I just hate terrible games.

You can ask dragonlife29, I recommended Aegis Wing (on the 360) to him because it's a good free SHMUP. Can't say the same for Socom/Pain (which generally want you to BUY them).

Ashhong said:
bah, voucher doesnt work either! fucking SCEA. how dare you sell a retail package that doesnt work

Just a crazy idea but... wait until it's uploaded, dude? :lol
 

netguy503

Member
Cruzader said:
I would buy(might actually) the boxed version and then get the PS2 disk and it inside or something. For $15, its an alright deal. Its not like you are spending more on it. And Sekoku, you must hate free games. (Socom/PAIN) Next time you get something for free on PSN, just give it to me so you wont end up complaining about it :D

There's no disc inside.
 
topofuji said:
I think you're missing the point. It doesn't matter what it actually plays, but the limited rarity of the product. Is the Nintendo Competition Cartridge holding much more than some average joe can go play for free on an emulator? No.

Yea, everyone else is missing the point:lol. The difference is, the Nintendo cart is something you can play, with some signifigance related to the hobby, not an empty case.

You hold on to that sealed case though and then in 10 years maybe you can laugh at the world instead of it being the other way around
 

vazel

Banned
xS1TH L0RDx said:
The fuck? it's exactly the same thing. it's a container with art on it.
Those starbucks cups from what I'm reading still hold value in discounts you get at starbucks with it.
 

Ashhong

Member
TheSeks said:
Just a crazy idea but... wait until it's uploaded, dude? :lol

:lol :lol :lol :lol you think? i was hoping it was uploaded just not showing on the store. retail box says nothing about waiting for it to be uploaded.

xS1TH L0RDx said:
The fuck? it's exactly the same thing. it's a container with art on it.

what everyone else said. you really think a starbucks cup that you would actually use and has benefits is the same as a regular ps3 game case with a cover art that has big ugly ass markings on it?
 
topofuji said:
I think you're missing the point. It doesn't matter what it actually plays, but the limited rarity of the product. Is the Nintendo Competition Cartridge holding much more than some average joe can go play for free on an emulator? No.
Just becuase it's limited doesn't mean its value will rise. People need to actually want the damn thing.
The Competition Cartdridge is actually rare as fuck and people want it because of nostalgia/nintendo worship.

What you have may have a run of at least 100.000 and it's nothing people will ever pay more than $20 for. Because you're selling a plastic box with a pretty picture in it.
By the time it "might" be worth something (15 years), the actual content will even be useless.
 
For example, try taking any game that is considered a collector's item. Now take the game out and try to sell the empty case and see how much money you get.
 
xS1TH L0RDx said:
No. do you consume the nothing that's in the cup when you put it up on ebay?

No, but the cup is actually used for something like a drink, rather than a game box that will have never have any use other than sitting there looking pretty.

Which is hard because of Udon's horrible art...but that's another topic entirely.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Ashhong said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol you think? i was hoping it was uploaded just not showing on the store. retail box says nothing about waiting for it to be uploaded.

Oh, trust me, dude... I know. I tried using my Gamestop U2 demo code and it's not up until the 16th. I really wish they would upload stuff in secret and let people get it through codes before it hits stores, but I guess that technically isn't fair (and the U2 demo/beta wouldn't be turned on so it'd just be sitting there on the PS3 looking pretty).
 

Cruzader

Banned
netguy503 said:
There's no disc inside.
i meant to say put the ps2/dc disk inside just for the hell of it.

I dont get what the fuss is about really. Case+voucher=PSN buy=$14.99 Since the case w/art is a little bonus, its a nice deal. End of story.
 
Ashhong said:
what everyone else said. you really think a starbucks cup that you would actually use and has benefits is the same as a regular ps3 game case with a cover art that has big ugly ass markings on it?

:lol :lol :lol

the cups cost less than $20 in the store, yet people buy them and sell them for insane amounts on ebay.

All of you people are missing the point: To Joe Blow in small town usa that collects starbucks cups, one that he finds on ebay could be the holy grail for him and he's willing to pay ridiculous amounts for a cup because he likes the artwork. The same can be said for the marvel retail package. Why is this so hard for you people to understand?

EDIT:
vazel said:
Those starbucks cups from what I'm reading still hold value in discounts you get at starbucks with it.

...yeah, and?

It still doesn't change the fact that you can still walk into a starbucks, buy a cup that get you discounts at starbucks FOR A FRACTION of the price of the cups on ebay, and there are still people selling them to collectors online.
 

dallow_bg

nods at old men
Absoludacrous said:
For example, try taking any game that is considered a collector's item. Now take the game out and try to sell the empty case and see how much money you get.
There hasn't been an example of this type of situation before.

It's an essentially limited game case with a voucher for a $15 game inside.
Will it's value rise?

Who knows.
 
xS1TH L0RDx said:
:lol :lol :lol

the cups cost less than $20 in the store, yet people buy them and sell them for insane amounts on ebay.

All of you people are missing the point: To Joe Blow in small town usa that collects starbucks cups, one that he finds on ebay could be the holy grail for him and he's willing to pay ridiculous amounts for a cup because he likes the artwork. The same can be said for the marvel retail package. Why is this so hard for you people to understand?

I think you should buy 3 and let us know how it goes.
 

vazel

Banned
xS1TH L0RDx said:
:lol :lol :lol

the cups cost less than $20 in the store, yet people buy them and sell them for insane amounts on ebay.

All of you people are missing the point: To Joe Blow in small town usa that collects starbucks cups, one that he finds on ebay could be the holy grail for him and he's willing to pay ridiculous amounts for a cup because he likes the artwork. The same can be said for the marvel retail package. Why is this so hard for you people to understand?
Like I've said before the value in those starbucks cups comes not from collector's value but from being able to reuse it at starbucks with discounts.
 

Ashhong

Member
TheSeks said:
Oh, trust me, dude... I know. I tried using my Gamestop U2 demo code and it's not up until the 16th. I really wish they would upload stuff in secret and let people get it through codes before it hits stores, but I guess that technically isn't fair (and the U2 demo/beta wouldn't be turned on so it'd just be sitting there on the PS3 looking pretty).

little different because that says a date. this is a retail game that people buy expecting to play. not to mention we already have the demo, arent we just waiting for the unlock code?
 

Psy-Phi

Member
It's hard for people to understand because there are no collectors of Game packages we've ever seen. I know I've never seen someone looking to buy Panzer Dragoon Saga's Case and Instruction Booklet for more than a couple of bucks...and that's to replace their now lost or bent insert/book.


Go ahead and buy them up and prove us wrong though. I expect to see results from your selling in no more than 5 years. Marking it on my calendar right....now.
 

vazel

Banned
xS1TH L0RDx said:
EDIT:

...yeah, and?

It still doesn't change the fact that you can still walk into a starbucks, buy a cup that get you discounts at starbucks FOR A FRACTION of the price of the cups on ebay, and there are still people selling them to collectors online.
I'm under the impression that the ones being sold on ebay are sold out. This is from the description of one of the listings.
You are bidding on 2 Iced Venti Double Walled Insulated Tumbler from Starbucks. Made from Clear hard plastic - double insulated with screw on lid, and green plastic straw. These mugs sold out very quickly from all stores and are quite popular since they can make a statement in their size and you also get a discount each time you use these mugs in a Starbucks. These work well as a gift for yourself or any friend or family member who really enjoys Starbucks. Bidding and Shipping -All sales are final, please ask all questions prior to bidding. Thank you! -Item will ship within 1business day of receipt of payment.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Starbucks-Ven...in_0?hash=item3a51e83eb0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
 

topofuji

Banned
Absoludacrous said:
For example, try taking any game that is considered a collector's item. Now take the game out and try to sell the empty case and see how much money you get.

Look, I don't think you understand still. Those games you are comparing this to have discs. This doesn't. This is the only retail edition release of PSN MVC2. which is supposedly in a limited run (we will see the extent of that in the coming weeks). It doesn't matter what it contains, it matters on the rarity of the product as I said and how sought after it will be as a collector's item in years, not as something to be played and used rigorously. Let me throw out another example: Do people who buy sealed limited run Famicoms on Ebay plan on opening it and playing it? No.
It appears xS1TH L0RDx is one of the only ones who understands what I'm trying to say, and is using a realistic example.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Ashhong said:
little different because that says a date. this is a retail game that people buy expecting to play. not to mention we already have the demo, arent we just waiting for the unlock code?

Well, if the UK store is anything there is a "full game" download. So, I'm assuming not. But who knows.
 

vazel

Banned
topofuji said:
Look, I don't think you understand still. Those games you are comparing this to have discs. This doesn't. This is the only retail edition release of PSN MVC2. It doesn't matter what it contains, it matters on the rarity of the product as I said and how sought after it will be as a collector's item in years, not as something to be played and used rigorously. Let me throw out another example: Do people who buy sealed limited run Famicoms on Ebay plan on opening it and playing it? No.
It appears xS1TH L0RDx is one of the only ones who understands what I'm trying to say, and is using a realistic example.
Rarity does not equal value. I've seen a comic book statue with a run of 500 units not appreciate in value and that's in a hobby rife with collectors.
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
Is the Starbucks Store updated yet? I can't get on Starbucks Network because my login keeps timing out...
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
jvm said:
Is the Starbucks Store updated yet? I can't get on Starbucks Network because my login keeps timing out...

Sadly no. My Java vs Python 2: New Age of Code coffee mug can't be filled up yet. :(
 

Ashhong

Member
vazel said:
Rarity does not equal value. I've seen a comic book statue with a run of 500 units not appreciate in value and that's in a hobby rife with collectors.

true, just look at master chief cat helmets.

the POINT is, its all about whether people will want it later. you asked us if we thought it would rise in value, and we said no, to which you replied, "fuck you ur all stupid!". in most of our opinions, it wont be worth anything over 15.00. THE END
 
Just wanted to tell you guys US PSN store is up.

3 ps1 games. Tomb Raider, Tin Pin Alley, and Dead In The Water.

Disgaea 3 DLC Complete bundle for 49.99
 

DMeisterJ

Banned
DMPrince said:
Just wanted to tell you guys US PSN store is up.

3 ps1 games. Tomb Raider, Tin Pin Alley, and Dead In The Water.

Disgaea 3 DLC Complete bundle for 49.99

Blah. Where is Xenogears? FFT? RE2? RE3? Ugh.
 

Aru

Member
DMPrince said:
Just wanted to tell you guys US PSN store is up.

3 ps1 games. Tomb Raider, Tin Pin Alley, and Dead In The Water.

Disgaea 3 DLC Complete bundle for 49.99

50$ of DLC ? Holy shit :/
Meh for the PS1 games.
 
xS1TH L0RDx said:
Just think on it for a second. A starbucks brand insulated cold cups retail for less than 20 dollars, and they are essentially just a container, and they do appreciate in value. They go for 240 bucks on ebay.
what? is there a story to a starbucks cup costing 240 bucks?
 

DMeisterJ

Banned
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No PSP games? Only eight weeks left to the Go launch and over 240 games to go... Wonder how that'll work out.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Edag Plata said:
Yeah, it's up. Tomb Raider too.

For $10. WTF. :/

DMPrince said:
Disgaea 3 DLC Complete bundle for 49.99

Too bad I got what I wanted, minus the Raspbryl stuff.

Also MvC2 won't unlock with the demo from June. So you may have to redownload the "demo" if you didn't delete that demo. Trying it now since my "full game" 6kb unlock didn't unlock it. :/
 

vazel

Banned
damaster129 said:
what? is there a story to a starbucks cup costing 240 bucks?
You can reuse those cups at starbucks for a discount. They're apparently sold out at most places(for now anyway). He's exaggerating on the price btw, they sell nowhere near $240.
 

topofuji

Banned
FINALLY!!!! :D The MVC2 mania has officially begun on the PS3.

Gonna be getting shit sleep due to this, but whatever. It's so worth it. :lol
 
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