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[Paracelsus]

We need more 3D comparisons, some games like VC3 and PE3 would benefit a lot from the filtering.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Peace Walker looked really good in the RSG stream.

 

[Jinfash]

The screen-grab function is here to stay, its importance far outweighs fanboy wars. But who knows, maybe it'll motivate devs to make their games more presentable, if it becomes too much of problem that is...

Naaaah, this solution is much more realistic: http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psvita/basic/capture.html

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Opt-out.

 

[Izayoi]

especially how there will now be games that are rendered below the vita's native resolution.

I must've missed this?

 

[Jinfash]

I must've missed this?

Uncharted and Mingol are reportedly running @ a sub-544 res.

 

[neptunes]

I must've missed this?

Isn't there a game that's rendered below 960×544?

 

[Castor Krieg]

FFS Namco, this is PSP graphics you fucks! Let me guess, runs at 20FPS, and goes down to 10FPS in stages where you can pick houses, ocean tiles, etc.?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

To be fair, some of the console ones didn't look that much better either. But yes, how does it run, anyone?

 

[Jinfash]

FFS Namco, this is PSP graphics you fucks! Let me guess, runs at 20FPS, and goes down to 10FPS in stages where you can pick houses, ocean tiles, etc.?

Actually it looked really fun on the stream. Remember, KD was never meant to be a graphical showcase in any capacity. I'm actually considering picking it up now.

 

[e_i]

But that isn't a solution either, because us Westerners don't have access to the digital version of the proper Ridge Racer PSP release (RR2).

Bah...I'm getting Wipeout. Ridge Racer Vita can sit on the store shelves.

 

[iceatcs]

Vita: (right resolution? but you could see both have different engine)

iPhone:

Wow iphone look completely shit, but due of old models.

 

[gkryhewy]

Ouch Namco, it looks just like the iPhone game.

 

[iceatcs]

Ouch Namco, it looks just like the iPhone game.

Your eyes need to check up. The texture and object may look same, but the light is different. I mean iphone have no shadow lolol whatever.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Here's a few others robbed off Twitter:

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What is this?

 

[gkryhewy]

Your eyes need to check up. The texture and object may look same, but the light is different. I mean iphone have no shadow lolol whatever.

Are you serious? Big deal. I can give up shadows to save 34 bucks.

 

[Jinfash]

PS2:

PSP:

It always looked this way

I don't wanna blindly defend it, but changing how it looks (by upping the poly-count or adding complex lighting) would probably change one of the franchise's main design philosophies.

What everyone should bitch about, is whether this entry has enough gameplay changes/improvements to be relevant vs. being another Bamco rehash.

 

[Izayoi]

Uncharted and Mingol are reportedly running @ a sub-544 res.

Wow, what? That's crazy. Source?

 

[Risk Breaker]

Hey guys 360 = Vita = PSP = PS2 omg

 

[yurinka]

Can someone post a direct screenshot of a PSP game running in Vita with both the AA filter enabled and disabled?

 

[Wazzim]

What is this?

Nico Nico App

 

[neptunes]

Can someone post a direct screenshot of a PSP game running in Vita with both the AA filter enabled and disabled?

The screen-grab function is disabled when running in PSP emulation mode

 

[jett]

Wow, what? That's crazy. Source?

You can tell by looking at captures that Uncharted doesn't run at the Vita's native resolution. I remember noticing it in another game too but I don't remember which.

 

[Castor Krieg]

What is this?

Nico Nico Douga app.

EDIT: Beaten.

 

[iceatcs]

Are you serious? Big deal. I can give up shadows to save 34 bucks.

Wait, what are we talking about. I didn't know graphics is a money.

 

[Wazzim]

Can someone post a direct screenshot of a PSP game running in Vita with both the AA filter enabled and disabled?

AA filter? Doesn't it only allow a Texture filter and color depth option? I didn't saw anything about AA.

But seriously. Why are the shadows so bad?

Because Scamco couldn't care less.

 

[jackdoe]

Hey guys 360 = Vita = PSP = PS2 omg

Not true at all. The 360 is so much more powerful than the Vita as evidenced by the better shadows. That truly takes a lot of horsepower.

But seriously. Why are the shadows so bad?

You can tell by looking at captures that Uncharted doesn't run at the Vita's native resolution. I remember noticing it in another game too but I don't remember which.

Yup. But it's close enough that with a few optimizations, Bend should be able to hit that native resolution. Now, Resistance Burning Skies on the other hand...

 

[Raonak]

I like the simplistic look of katamari. But goddam, that game needs some anti-aliasing BADLY!

and LOL@people wanting the screenshot function to create bullshots. I for one appreciate it gives us proper screenshots. Im sick of this bullshot buisness.

 

[hyp]

Ouch Namco, it looks just like the iPhone game.

totally, they both look like shit. great job Namco.

 

[gkryhewy]

totally, they both look like shit. great job Namco.

I find it more objectionable that they're charging, or attempting to charge, 40 USD for the Vita version and 7 USD for the iOS version for what are clearly essentially the same game in the same engine. This is the kind of thing that will kill dedicated handhelds.

EDIT: I see that this is a 30 USD Vita game; better, but still sad.

 

[Risk Breaker]

But seriously. Why are the shadows so bad?

If I were to guess I'd say that the engine is pretty damn old. Super Monkey Ball, while kinda sharing the visual style looks much cleaner and attractive.

 

[jackdoe]

I find it more objectionable that they're charging, or attempting to charge, 40 USD for the Vita version and 7 USD for the iOS version for what are clearly essentially the same game in the same engine. This is the kind of thing that will kill dedicated handhelds.

Amazon says it's $30. That's still overpriced though, as it should be at most $20.

If I were to guess I'd say that the engine is pretty damn old. Super Monkey Ball, while kinda sharing the visual style looks much cleaner and attractive.

That's true, but the PS3 and 360 versions have much cleaner shadows so they can make the tweaks if they need to.

 

[Wario64]

I find it more objectionable that they're charging, or attempting to charge, 40 USD for the Vita version and 7 USD for the iOS version for what are clearly essentially the same game in the same engine. This is the kind of thing that will kill dedicated handhelds.

Not to mention the IAP/DLC unlocks on both versions. Disgusting.

 

[Raistlin]

Uhm.. you know what's the resolution of the Vita?... Why would you want the game to run at a higher resolution than the console and then be downscaled? It makes absolutely no sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersampling - It's actually the best IQ solution

Spoiler

yes I know that's not what he meant

 

[Jinfash]

Amazon says it's $30. That's still overpriced though, as it should be at most $20.

That's how much Takahashi-sama always intended them to cost.

 

[gkryhewy]

Not to mention the IAP/DLC unlocks on both versions. Disgusting.

Of course. And yet I preordered Ridge Racer for Vita today. Shit.

 

[hyp]

Not to mention the IAP/DLC unlocks on both versions. Disgusting.

seems like no one noticed your rebuttal to yoshida's "PWNAGE" tweet either. he was straight quiet after the 99 cent comment.

vita looks great and I want one eventually but the games better be running at native res and use the hardware to its fullest for me to justify the price of games.

 

[Castor Krieg]

Of course. And yet I preordered Ridge Racer for Vita today. Shit.

You are part of the problem.

 

[gkryhewy]

You are part of the problem.

Well, I still have time to cancel the whole thing depending on how sales in Japan go. If it looks like a sustainable platform, I'll bite the bullet on Ridge.

 

[RiZ III]

Are you guys fucking serious about the katamari comments??? Have you played the the original?! The art style is just simplistic! Christ. I don't have a vita nor care to buy one, but this just shows that you idiots missed out on a ps2 classic and don't seem to have any clue about the fact that the whoe series is built around a simple art style.

 

[Castor Krieg]

Are you guys fucking serious about the katamari comments??? Have you played the the original?! The art style is just simplistic! Christ. I don't have a vita nor care to buy one, but this just shows that you idiots missed out on a ps2 classic and don't seem to have any clue about the fact that the whoe series is built around a simple art style.

Simple =! pixelated mess in each game. Game started on PS2, I demand something more from PS3/Vita. PS3 did it nice with brushes, but it was a pain to unlock the.

Most important thing - is it running at sub-30FPS? I didn't see the stream yet, can anyone comment?

 

[Metalmurphy]

You can tell by looking at captures that Uncharted doesn't run at the Vita's native resolution. I remember noticing it in another game too but I don't remember which.

Resistance. And apparently it's not just those 2 either.

 

[Jinfash]

Most important thing - is it running at sub-30FPS? I didn't see the stream yet, can anyone comment?

It looked like a stable 30fps, but I'm waiting for more information on how big the base game is, since we already know they're planning an extravagant DLC schedule.

 

[Castor Krieg]

It looked like a stable 30fps, but I'm waiting for more information on how big the base game is, since we already know they're planning an extravagant DLC schedule.

Still, I expected 60FPS. One of the brushes on PS3 was running the game at 60FPS, which was even more bizzare due to the fact that default brush was 30FPS.

 

[chalkitdown1]

I scaled down the Uncharted pics to ACTUAL Vita sized screens( 5 inches, based on my monitor's resolution of course)

Anyone complaining about the graphics is a lunatic.

 

[Y2Kev]

dunno if it works like that lol

(but yeah it will look great on the Viter, which is how someone from alabama says vita)

 

[Jinfash]

(but yeah it will look great on the Viter, which is how someone from alabama says vita)

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[orioto]

I scaled down the Uncharted pics to ACTUAL Vita sized screens( 5 inches, based on my monitor's resolution of course)

It's cheating to begin with, and it's not enough to hide the horrible resolution of the buffer on the background here...

Vita has an awesome and well defined screen, so you'll see this heavily aliased bridge a lot more than you're trying to hide here.

 

[EhrgeizVII]

Aliasing reminds me of PS2. I kinda like it.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I haven't even seen 1 stream complain about UC. Of course is lacking proper AA but that doesn't take a lot away from it. I've watched more UC GA than I should have the last 2 days and it's definitely stunning and I imagine seeing it with your own 2 eyes helps a lot.

 

[darkwing]

so people saying it's the best looking portable game is just wrong?