Chart pretty much shows you get what you pay for.
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Playstation VR GDC Presentation: March 15th
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Chart pretty much shows you get what you pay for.
valkillmore
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Canadian here. Also shitting myself.
And sanity has returned. Never thought for a second that this thing would be $299.99 or $349.99. Those are mainstream prices and this product is for enthusiasts. $399.99 is fine for me and I'm definitely day one.
The Elite
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My theory is $399 US and $529 Canadian. I like to think they will take a $20 hit on the CAD but if not it will be $549.99 Canadian.
darkness_s
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Keep in mind that if the Goldman Sachs estimate is right, it's only for the bill of materials. Manufacturing, R&D, camera, and whatever profit they want to make could easily push it another $50 or $100.
geordiemp
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Its one of the saving graces for Sony, I can imagine the street GBP price to be now where near as bad as trying to import an Occulus from USA.
Sony will be more international is my guess and better for us UK customers, I am expecting $ 399 and £ 330 if they dont totally screw us on exchange rate
Yautja_Warrior
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Guess they aren't going to wait for E3 after all, but at least we don't have to wait too long now to get all the details.
engineer87
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Interested to see what the gaming lineup will look like since it will be vital to PSVR success.
I know this would never happen but a PSVR version of Shadow of the Colossus would be insane.
I know this would never happen but a PSVR version of Shadow of the Colossus would be insane.
mckmas8808
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shortsFortallPeople
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given that it's GDC, i hope they announce that the PSVR will work on PC as well. I think this would be huge for not only moving more units but also for helping the mass adoption of VR as well.
Leaving it as a PS4 only device will really limit its appeal to the consumer who is looking for just one VR headset to buy.
Leaving it as a PS4 only device will really limit its appeal to the consumer who is looking for just one VR headset to buy.
harrisk954
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Why would it be September 11th? (it is a Sunday, btw)
Danlord
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It also muddies the Console VR market space.
For example, if 1 million people buy PSVR, but only 100,000 are actually playing on PS4 and the rest are on PC, then PS4 developers aren't going to be making a lot of potential sales if 10% are actually PS4 players. Keeping it purely PS4, it ensures that developers will know how many people own PSVR and can begin to invest in the market when it's big enough and not develop a PS4 VR title that needs say 250,000 sales to break even, when <=100,000 would even have the opportunity to buy it out of the apparent 1 million sales.
Numbers are there for arguments sake, but Sony and developers wouldn't benefit if they marketed PSVR for PC.
It was originally unlikely to happen, and I think now with their breakout box it'd be even more unlikely - they'd need to write drivers for it to work because they seem to use the HDMI cable for data and not just video to send the 3D spatial audio data which is then processed by the breakout box. So I don't know how technically feasible it would even be to support it on PC.
Graphics Horse
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I'd imagine it can pass audio through without processing if they want, that's all it needs to be pc compatible. I don't really expect it to be supported officially but someone will get it to work if they don't.
They're not going to cannibalise their revenue by supporting PC. It's just not going to happen, officially at least.
I can however see them supporting 360 .mp4 playback, just as they do with regular mp4 to satisfy the porn enthusiasts. There wont be some sort of adult VR store on a PlayStation product (no matter how profitable it could be) so this is an indirect way of supporting it.
I can also see them having a VR app with other interesting VR experiences.
I can however see them supporting 360 .mp4 playback, just as they do with regular mp4 to satisfy the porn enthusiasts. There wont be some sort of adult VR store on a PlayStation product (no matter how profitable it could be) so this is an indirect way of supporting it.
I can also see them having a VR app with other interesting VR experiences.
John Carmack ‏@ID_AA_Carmack 23m23 minutes ago
While the marketing decision is clear, on a purely technical level I might prefer a 2560 RGB stripe display over a 4k pentile one.
Vive and Oculus are both using 2160(/2)x1200 pentile oled. PSVR has 1920x1080 RGB oled (it has a higher sub-pixel level as each pixel-stripe is a RGB-RGB.. pattern, a pentile is RG-BR-GB-RG..). PSVR kicking above its weight.
While the marketing decision is clear, on a purely technical level I might prefer a 2560 RGB stripe display over a 4k pentile one.
Vive and Oculus are both using 2160(/2)x1200 pentile oled. PSVR has 1920x1080 RGB oled (it has a higher sub-pixel level as each pixel-stripe is a RGB-RGB.. pattern, a pentile is RG-BR-GB-RG..). PSVR kicking above its weight.
Give it a week or two.
awesomegamername
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I'm not gonna lie, that's one beautiful piece of kit.
Can't wait for some more info.
Can't wait for some more info.
It's brewing. Been some big other news lately: UC4 trailer & mp-demo, Xbox-platform changing, Windows UWA, HTC Vive per-orders, Nintendo direct and No Man's Sky release details. This was a huge news week.
iamBlkpleAsedoNt
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Its hype for me, I even set a calendar reminder on my phone
Maybe it's better now, but I'm pretty sure BOM analysis put the Vita at well over $300 and it ended up coming out at $250.
iceatcs
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Interesting. And now I can understand why's that GearVR didn't fix it much, even their smartphones have an extreme high resolution than Rifts.
I'm wondering about the price, but I think Sony based in Japan have access for the 120hz mobile screen R&D whereas Korea might be lacking on that. So I won't be surprised PSVR using Japanese screen.
fastest finger
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Hopefully that release date will be sooner rather than later.
Interestingly, the forthcoming 3.50 firmware contains health and safety info for using the VR headset.
Those poor under 12s.......
https://twitter.com/ps4vrnews/status/706056875285028864
Interestingly, the forthcoming 3.50 firmware contains health and safety info for using the VR headset.
Those poor under 12s.......
https://twitter.com/ps4vrnews/status/706056875285028864
jimbobsmells
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Eurogamer has an article asking if the PSVR is VR's best chance at mainstream success. I think the answer is 'duh, of course'.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...-is-ps4-vr-best-chance-for-mainstream-success
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...-is-ps4-vr-best-chance-for-mainstream-success
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Deleted member 10571
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This will be more expensive than most hope, but less expensive than some fear. I'll go with 379 for a no-move set, 499 for PSVR, cam, move and an additional game, 699 for a set including PS4.
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Omnistalgic
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Sounds good to me, only I would think the base unit would not go over $349 because thats he price of the PS4. If Sony is selling this as an upgrade to PS4, it shouldnt cost more than the base console.
With a bundle and games sure, but just the head set alone should be comparable tot he base product. No way to shake the stigma that its an add on, even with all the this is a new platform marketing.
Still, they only plan to sell 2 million, I think they can get more people that that with PS4s to buy one if compelling games are available.
Graphics Horse
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The middle one would be a really bad deal, you could buy a camera and 2 moves from Amazon for less right now.
iamBlkpleAsedoNt
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My hopes are as follows $299 headset $399 set $699 console bundle. I highly doubt they will price it more than the console.
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Deleted member 10571
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Maybe, I didn't really check beforehand, just going by gut feeling
Throw in a game then!Sidewinder
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I'm still very hype!
Wether Sony go out and support Pc or not it doesn't really matter. There will always be some person or group who will make it work on Pc eventually.
Vol5
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I think Sony will play this like they do with all their PS hardware. Units sell at a loss while making dollar on the attach rate. Vive and Oculus it seems are simply trying to make money from the hardware and because there's no license costs on PC going back to those guys the initial costs are quite high.
If the PSVR headset itself is anymore than £250 or $300 I'd be surprised as it would indicate a huge shift in their strategy.
If the PSVR headset itself is anymore than £250 or $300 I'd be surprised as it would indicate a huge shift in their strategy.
MonsieurPaul
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After the success of Vive preorder, my guess is that PSVR just became 50 $ more expensive.
If No Man's Sky is indeed available for PSVR, they could charge 599$ for it and still have trouble delivering enough units.
If No Man's Sky is indeed available for PSVR, they could charge 599$ for it and still have trouble delivering enough units.
Handy Fake
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I've been saying this all along as well, aye. Mind, I'm prepared for a shattering disappointment.
useyourfist
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£349 is my guess. Surprised no insider hints yet
I'm in the UK too. I'm hoping/budgeting for £350 max. If it verges towards £400 I'll be amazed quite frankly. Just bought an S7 through Samsung directly and they had a credit method that was pretty reasonable, pay over 2 years and costs 15% more than buying outright. I don't know why more companies don't offer options like this. I know Apple do too actually via Paypal Credit although interest is a bit higher I think. For purchases such as this it would be great to have a decent credit option for it direct from Sony. A lot of people might not be prepared to plump down £300 or so on VR off the bat. I am but I'm very much an enthusiast who's been waiting for this since it was announced.
I still think UK pricing could be pretty reasonable, I still hope and dream of a headset only option for £250, with a £350 one with camera and possible moves and/or a game bundle too. Up against US pricing it tallies up with expectations over there of hopefully $350 to $450.
vpance
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Megaton, make a new thread.
Preorders go live on the 15th, and release in June is my guess.
Audioboxer
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I'm absolutely desperate for a VR No Mans Sky announcement. Unless the price is daylight robbery I'll be on it day 1 like crazy if NMS can get support.
It's the perfect fit and Sony would be mad not to throw resources like crazy at it to help the small studio out.
It's the perfect fit and Sony would be mad not to throw resources like crazy at it to help the small studio out.
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Deleted member 10571
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I can't believe the PS4 has the power to transport a standard, great looking PS4 game to VR. All Demos so far have been more than noticably inferior to regular games in terms of graphics and/or extent of environment.
And by "regular games" in this case of course I mean generally good looking/AAA ones, not the occasional pixel indie title. Only exception so far on first glance would be that Driveclub title, but so far we have no idea how big, extensive etc it is.
That said, I'd be immensely happy to be wrong
Audioboxer
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I can't believe the PS4 has the power to transport a standard, great looking PS4 game to VR. All Demos so far have been more than noticably inferior to regular games in terms of graphics and/or extent of environment.
And by "regular games" in this case of course I mean generally good looking/AAA ones, not the occasional pixel indie title. Only exception so far on first glance would be that Driveclub title, but so far we have no idea how big, extensive etc it is.
That said, I'd be immensely happy to be wrong
I'd happily take a knock in graphics fidelity. I'm sure NMS will introduce a lot of great masking techniques for hiding/introducing draw distance, so I have to believe it's possible to do a VR version. It's the perfect match.
IMO it's more the colour palette that makes the game look great, than any insane texture work.
iamBlkpleAsedoNt
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Look at Golem for VR. That runs at 90fps. NMS just needs to hit 60.
sems4arsenal
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Rushy hinting at Driveclub VR at GDC on Twitter. Surely GTSport will be there too?