Yoboman
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Xbox exclusives are fine, why not create their own studios to do it?So to summarize, Sony exclusives good for gamers and the industry, Xbox exclusives bad.
Xbox exclusives are fine, why not create their own studios to do it?So to summarize, Sony exclusives good for gamers and the industry, Xbox exclusives bad.
They have. And they have bought some. Just like Sony.Xbox exclusives are fine, why not create their own studios to do it?
Microsoft is plaything the long game. This is why they spent $70b on Activision and whatever the hell they spent on Bethesda. It wasn't to shore up exclusives for this gen it was to bolster their portfolio moving forward when gaming inevitably begins to resemble Netflix and Hulu, or Spotify and Apple Music, etc.You can be sure they're going to renegotiate that after the contract expires.
As I said, these corporations are not your friend. They won't keep COD console exclusive because they'll be pissing away the revenue that the PS userbase brings in. Isn't the PS userbase almost double that of Xbox?
PlayStation sales for Call of Duty: Vanguard physical version accounted for over 70% of its total sales. Activision's shooter primary sales figures included PS5 accounting for 41% of sales, PS4 29%, Xbox One 19%, and Xbox Series X and S 11%.
Xbox stand to lose close to $1 Billion in sales if it keeps COD off the PS platform.
So again, what benefit is there to keeping COD console exclusive and losing out on all that money. The aim for any business is profit. Xbox doesn't profit from cutting PS out of the deal.
Lmao so Sony can buy studios and Microsoft buying studios is not ok ? Cause they didn’t start them from scratch? Well looking at Microsoft recent history they started 343 from scratch and the coalition from scratch and one of those is a doing their best the other is struggling there’s challenges to starting studios from scratch. Where as established studios you don’t have to hire for already exist and available what’s wrong with buying them? Or is it only ok when Sony buys things cause it’s for the players?Xbox exclusives are fine, why not create their own studios to do it?
Bought "some" is an interesting spin on about $80 billion worthThey have. And they have bought some. Just like Sony.
educate yourself lunaticCo developed? You mean a few Sony folk served coffee? It's a from software game through and through same as demon's souls.
I’ll be honest: I don’t know how to interpret this one.
It’s hilarious how many people don’t realize this, Marvel owns the IP & licensed Sony the copyrights to fund/publish a video game for their console. Microsoft if they wanted right now, could go to Marvel & pay them a hefty sum for a license & publish their own Spider-Man, nothing’s stopping them. Take it up with Phil.
Sony acquiring Insomniac had fuck all to do with whether or not the game was coming to Xbox, the game was already out on PS4 before Insomniac got acquired.
If Sony buy a publisher and take all their games off Xbox we can talk. As of now the closest Sony has done is buy Bungie and kept them multiplatformLmao so Sony can buy studios and Microsoft buying studios is not ok ? Cause they didn’t start them from scratch? Well looking at Microsoft recent history they started 343 from scratch and the coalition from scratch and one of those is a doing their best the other is struggling there’s challenges to starting studios from scratch. Where as established studios you don’t have to hire for already exist and available what’s wrong with buying them? Or is it only ok when Sony buys things cause it’s for the players?
No need to be salty.Bought "some" is an interesting spin on about $80 billion worth
didnt xbox bought 10 studios or something? what are you on about?Lmao so Sony can buy studios and Microsoft buying studios is not ok ? Cause they didn’t start them from scratch? Well looking at Microsoft recent history they started 343 from scratch and the coalition from scratch and one of those is a doing their best the other is struggling there’s challenges to starting studios from scratch. Where as established studios you don’t have to hire for already exist and available what’s wrong with buying them? Or is it only ok when Sony buys things cause it’s for the players?
haha i dont know whats going on
Course I am. Gaming keeps contracting. We are down to a few players owning everything and smaller devs getting killed off all the time.No need to be salty.
Like I've said, this is so petty.
Im gonna start calling you Goldenfish, cuz your memory only lasts 5 seconds.
I think the difference here is money at stake. If Sony had the cash to take on someone like Bethesda or Activision, they would have --- who wouldn't? One could argue that Sony was able to do more, with less --- and that's admirable, because it put them in the position of market leader by a commanding amount.If Sony buy a publisher and take all their games off Xbox we can talk. As of now the closest Sony has done is buy Bungie and kept them multiplatform
They've bought studios with no owned IP. It's the difference between the two, one is buying talent and the other is buying IP
Hold on, you mean they not buying them to make Pitfall games?
Sure Sony were never in the running for Activision. But there's nothing to indicate Sony would have if they could have. They've been in gaming for decades and acquisitions were rare. In fact until recently they hadn't bought anyone they hadn't worked with in a publishing capacity beforeI think the difference here is money at stake. If Sony had the cash to take on someone like Bethesda or Activision, they would have --- who wouldn't? One could argue that Sony was able to do more, with less --- and that's admirable, because it put them in the position of market leader by a commanding amount.
Unfortunately their competition just so happens to be massively larger and has demonstrated a renewed vigor to compete. It's going to be an interesting generation, that's for sure.
Lmao so Sony can buy studios and Microsoft buying studios is not ok ? Cause they didn’t start them from scratch? Well looking at Microsoft recent history they started 343 from scratch and the coalition from scratch and one of those is a doing their best the other is struggling there’s challenges to starting studios from scratch. Where as established studios you don’t have to hire for already exist and available what’s wrong with buying them? Or is it only ok when Sony buys things cause it’s for the players?
I’ll be honest: I don’t know how to interpret this one.
Because I had been told many times that Sony was after Bethesda at one point as well and that comes from a guy who would 100% know.If your console and profits hinge on Call of Duty, you're in trouble. Let it go Sony, this deal is going through and take what you can get. I didn't see Sony fighting Bethesda. Microsoft doesn't have to play nice with this stuff, just nice enough to get the deal through. Exclusives are a real thing. Sony feels so desperate and not prepared for any of this, so disappointing.
Yeah big business is weird sometimes.Jim Ryan crying about MS deciding the future of an IP that MS owns.
Poor Jimmy. Condolences buddy boy.
The fucking LUNACY that is going on in this thread.They have. And they have bought some. Just like Sony.
So wait, Phil gives them an extra 3 years with COD, that's basically this entire generation and Jim is saying it's inadequate? What does he expect?
Mind you, this doesn't mean they can't come back to the table in 6 years and renew a deal.
Jim looks really weak in my opinion. It's like COD is all Sony has...which is complete bullshit. All these super talented studios he has at his disposal and they can't figure out a way to compete?
I think both companies need rhinoplasty at this point.
Ok, cool - I actually agree. I thought perhaps you were insinuating that PlayStation was somehow going to "go loud". Up until this generation, Sony has been competing with Xbox, and winning. In my opinion, they're now competing with Microsoft. It's Spencer's game to lose.Watch the Xbox documentary that just came out. The whole reason for the original Xbox's existence is because Sony was taunting MS by calling the PS2 the "PlayStation 2 Computer Entertainment System". MS saw how Sony owned the living room with TVs and was terrified of them moving in on the PC. So they got into the console business. Then Sony spent the latter half of the PS3 era and the PS4 era buying exclusive content to fight MS. Now MS has opened their giant wallet and is fighting an arms race Sony is going to have a hard time keeping up with, so you're seeing comments like the one this thread is about.
Honestly, I'd prefer it to any COD gamebut imagine a AAA Pitfall game tho... Uncharted competitor right there!
To summarize...haha i dont know whats going on
haha i dont know whats going on
Where the fuck do these lunatics come from?Eat shit and die Sony. I never played a COD game and never will but as the skillup tweet above states it's very satisfying to watch Sony whine about exclusive content when they have been money hatting since 1994.
Besides why they whine so much about a run of the mill dirty third party game when their amazing first party studios decimate the industry? Sure pumping out a MP Fps should be easy for the naughty gods right?
The truth is that Sony is what it is thanks to third party games (and rampant piracy on their first 2 generations cough cough). Take 2 games out of the following 3 and they become colecovision
COD
FIFA
GTA
Watch the Xbox documentary that just came out. The whole reason for the original Xbox's existence is because Sony was taunting MS by calling the PS2 the "PlayStation 2 Computer Entertainment System". MS saw how Sony owned the living room with TVs and was terrified of them moving in on the PC. So they got into the console business. Then Sony spent the latter half of the PS3 era and the PS4 era buying exclusive content to fight MS. Now MS has opened their giant wallet and is fighting an arms race Sony is going to have a hard time keeping up with, so you're seeing comments like the one this thread is about.
I do some moderating on Twitch and did a lot on Mixer (RIP) but no way I would want to be a Mod on a forum like this.Where the fuck do these lunatics come from?
Not surprised this dude is banned
Its more the 'Sony eat shit and die' part that had me like Dude WTF?I do some moderating on Twitch and did a lot on Mixer (RIP) but no way I would want to be a Mod on a forum like this.
I can just imagine the Mods reactions when they see something Phil or Jimmie says and they know the wars are coming
100% the pure warriors are just the worstIts more the 'eat shit and die' part that had me like Dude WTF?
There's far bigger problems in the world today to warrant a reaction like that. Gaming isn't it.
Ok, cool - I actually agree. I thought perhaps you were insinuating that PlayStation was somehow going to "go loud". Up until this generation, Sony has been competing with Xbox, and winning. In my opinion, they're now competing with Microsoft. It's Spencer's game to lose.
That's not accurate, the Xbox was already being worked on in some form by a team who though there was reason for MS to get into gaming because well, they already were.
What you said is the reason why Microsoft greenlit project that would eventually become the Xbox with the budget that they did. It's likely MS was going to have a console anyway, but it may have been entirely different, with lower budget allocation.
No, he's typing from his Xperia phone.I bet you're typing these responses from Sony's very successful line of VAIO laptops...