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[scorcho]

It seems like both candidates are pretty much the same.

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for you to make such a base statement says to me you haven't been paying attention to anything but the horse race.

 

[UltimaKilo]

you obviously haven't been doing your reading.

Nope, I try not to read partisan papers. And I don't have to read the NYT to see his political style.

 

[The Librarian]

It seems like both candidates are pretty much the same.

:lol Have you done any research whatsoever?

 

[UltimaKilo]

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for you to make such a base statement says to me you haven't been paying attention to anything but the horse race.

What I mean is that they both agree with each other on what has to be done, they just disagree on how to do it.

 

[TDG]

No it's the fact that she attacked and put down Obama as if she were a republican. Her dirty tactics are not what Obama needs in his campaign

I was playing devil's advocate. But I do think that her tough style and mainstream appeal are actually exactly what Obama could use.

 

[scorcho]

Nope, I try not to read partisan papers. And I don't have to read the NYT to see his political style.

so you refuse to do critical reading to expose a candidate's platform, paint the NYT as a 'partisan' paper (hint: a liberal rag wouldn't have oh-fuck-me Kristol in its op-ed pages) and then claim that McCain and Obama are the same.

good work!

What I mean is that they both agree with each other on what has to be done, they just disagree on how to do it.

McCain and Obama want to improve the country, but disagree on what has to be done. ergo, they are the same.

 

[Father_Brain]

Nope, I try not to read partisan papers

what

 

[soul creator]

What I mean is that they both agree with each other on what has to be done, they just disagree on how to do it.

well that's a pretty vague statement

 

[PhoenixDark]

They're both men, they wear suits. Sound similar to me!

 

[VistraNorrez]

What I mean is that they both agree with each other on what has to be done, they just disagree on how to do it.

Even if that were true, which it isn't, the whole how to do it makes them very different. The means is just as important as the result.

 

[UltimaKilo]

so you refuse to do critical reading to expose a candidate's platform, paint the NYT as a 'partisan' paper (hint: a liberal rag wouldn't have oh-fuck-me Kristol in its op-ed pages) and then claim that McCain and Obama are the same.

good work!


McCain and Obama want to improve the country, but disagree on what has to be done. ergo, they are the same.

To say that the NYT is not partisan is to say that the Washington Post isn't either. Meaning you can't see things objectively, but rather just partisan.

Obviously they both want to improve the country, but they don't really differ in a lot of issues. Sure healthcare, but those kinds of issues are always the same with Republicans and Democrats. When you look at energy, McCain supports everything and so does Obama, minus off-shore drilling (which he seems to have shifted on).

They both agree that out troops have to be pulled from Iraq and shifted to Afghanistan, and they both seems to be on the same timetable (now that is seems like a 2012 pullout anyways) .

 

[The Librarian]

To say that the NYT is not partisan is to say that the Washington Post isn't either. Meaning you can't see things objectively, but rather just partisan.

Obviously they both want to improve the country, but they don't really differ in a lot of issues. Sure healthcare, but those kinds of issues are always the same with Republicans and Democrats. When you look at energy, McCain supports everything and so does Obama, minus off-shore drilling (which he seems to have shifted on).

They both agree that out troops have to be pulled from Iraq and shifted to Afghanistan, and they both seems to be on the same timetable (now that is seems like a 2012 pullout anyways) .

facepalm

 

[RubxQub]

To say that the NYT is not partisan is to say that the Washington Post isn't either. Meaning you can't see things objectively, but rather just partisan.

Obviously they both want to improve the country, but they don't really differ in a lot of issues. Sure healthcare, but those kinds of issues are always the same with Republicans and Democrats. When you look at energy, McCain supports everything and so does Obama, minus off-shore drilling (which he seems to have shifted on).

They both agree that out troops have to be pulled from Iraq and shifted to Afghanistan, and they both seems to be on the same timetable (now that is seems like a 2012 pullout anyways) .

Hoooooooly hell dude.

Read the hell up on these guys policies on each of their official websites...like ASAP

 

[scorcho]

To say that the NYT is not partisan is to say that the Washington Post isn't either. Meaning you can't see things objectively, but rather just partisan.

Obviously they both want to improve the country, but they don't really differ in a lot of issues. Sure healthcare, but those kinds of issues are always the same with Republicans and Democrats. When you look at energy, McCain supports everything and so does Obama, minus off-shore drilling (which he seems to have shifted on).

They both agree that out troops have to be pulled from Iraq and shifted to Afghanistan, and they both seems to be on the same timetable (now that is seems like a 2012 pullout anyways) .

the EDITORIAL BOARD may have a tilt (NYT to the left, WaPo to the right), but the basic reporting is pretty devoid of it. that is, unless you mindlessly buy into conservative cries of a 'liberal media'.

as to the rest, we can all reduce their platforms to arching themes of what they want to do, but the specifics are pretty damn important (especially with regards to health care, the economy, foreign policy, everything, etc.). you can rationalize your ignorance and freedom from actually inspecting the campaigns, but expect a lot of lulz at your expense.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Hoooooooly hell dude.

Read the hell up on these guys policies on each of their official websites...like ASAP

Don't have to, I've worked for their campaigns to familiarize myself with them.

 

[Chrono]

UltimaKilo is the problem Obama can't solve. How the fuck can he win people this stupid? The polite thing to say is that they haven't been paying attention. Poor things just don't have the info they need. This moron has all the info he needs, he's in this fucking thread for heaven's sake.

 

[pxleyes]

Don't have to, I've worked for their campaigns to familiarize myself with them.

You've work with both campaigns? WAT?! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[UltimaKilo]

the EDITORIAL BOARD may have a tilt (NYT to the left, WaPo to the right), but the basic reporting is pretty devoid of it. that is, unless you mindlessly buy into conservative cries of a 'liberal media'.

as to the rest, we can all reduce their platforms to arching themes of what they want to do, but the specifics are pretty damn important (especially with regards to health care, the economy, foreign policy, everything, etc.). you can rationalize your ignorance and freedom from actually inspecting the campaigns, but expect a lot of lulz at your expense.

Argentina v USA back on, I'll come back when the game is over! I'm just asking for people to look at things objectively and not blurt things out like "lawlz Obama is a muslim and McCain is Bush 1.5". But that will never happen!

You've work with both campaigns? WAT?! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Indeed. I worked for the McCain campaign during the primaries, and I was an intern in the Obama campaign in Florida.

 

[Father_Brain]

To say that the NYT is not partisan is to say that the Washington Post isn't either. Meaning you can't see things objectively, but rather just partisan.

yes, the pro-war newspaper that gives David Broder and Fred Hiatt more money than I will see in my entire life to shit out their columns every week is truly the epitome of liberalism

 

[RubxQub]

Don't have to, I've worked for their campaigns to familiarize myself with them.

If your conclusion is: "that both candidates are basically the same"...then you are severly incorrect.

 

[scorcho]

\I'm just asking for people to look at things objectively and not blurt things out like "lawlz Obama is a muslim and McCain is Bush 1.5". But that will never happen!

when you quip that both candidates are roughly the same the irony meter goes off and whatever weight your point had is gone.

 

[Karish]

I think Obama will send the text at 9am PST so that he doesn't wake up any of his supporters.

 

[tanod]

I guess I was wrong this seven story has gotten some traction with the media. It's just silly that of all the stupid and even scary shit McCain has done lately this is the story they run with.

I'd say so, but the Obama campaign is partly responsible since they're pushing it so hard.

Some of the media has been equating this to the "voted for before I voted against" and the parasailing video from the 2004 campaign.

Woohoo!

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I think Obama will send the text at 9am PST so that he doesn't wake up any of his supporters.

so any minute now

 

[UltimaKilo]

yes, the pro-war newspaper that gives David Broder and Fred Hiatt more money than I will see in my entire life to shit out their columns every week is truly the epitome of liberalism

Exactly my point?

 

[tanod]

After the announcement, I'd love to hear that the Obama campaign told Biden that he would be VP but only if he was able to keep it a secret until the formal announcement. If he couldn't keep his mouth shut, they'd pick Kaine or something.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

who the hell is Chet Edwards?

 

[HylianTom]

who the hell is Chet Edwards?

He's a Texas Congreszzzzzz.......

 

[maynerd]

I think Obama will send the text at 9am PST so that he doesn't wake up any of his supporters.

Not everyone gets up by 9am.

 

[pxleyes]

Not everyone gets up by 9am.

It still makes sense.

 

[Father_Brain]

Exactly my point?

I would hope so, considering your other posts.

 

[RubxQub]

It still makes sense.

My productivity is fucking eating it today because I'm GAFing and checking my TXT messages every second.

 

[maynerd]

My productivity is fucking eating it today because I'm GAFing and checking my TXT messages every second.

Doesn't your phone alert you when you get a text message?

 

[TDG]

My productivity is fucking eating it today because I'm GAFing and checking my TXT messages every second.

I'm just waiting for that buzzing coming from my pocket. I can't wait.

Spoiler

I'm not getting my hopes up, I think the texts will go out tomorrow morning.

 

[RubxQub]

Doesn't your phone alert you when you get a text message?

Have a Blackberry hooked into work e-mail. My phone buzzes 24/7 natually

 

[maynerd]

Have a Blackberry hooked into work e-mail. My phone buzzes 24/7 natually

Can't you change the alert sound for text messages vs emails?

think outside the box man!

 

[BotoxAgent]

To say that the NYT is not partisan is to say that the Washington Post isn't either. Meaning you can't see things objectively, but rather just partisan.

Obviously they both want to improve the country, but they don't really differ in a lot of issues. Sure healthcare, but those kinds of issues are always the same with Republicans and Democrats. When you look at energy, McCain supports everything and so does Obama, minus off-shore drilling (which he seems to have shifted on).

They both agree that out troops have to be pulled from Iraq and shifted to Afghanistan, and they both seems to be on the same timetable (now that is seems like a 2012 pullout anyways) .

It's all a question of competence. McCain isn't exactly the brightest bulb out there, definitely not a guy I want as president.

 

[Mumei]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/what-would-miss-manners-say/

Cell phone etiquette may have sunk to a new low.

A man attending a town hall meeting here with Senator Barack Obama was yakking on his phone while Mr. Obama was speaking Thursday. Mr. Obama noticed him and called him out on it, so to speak.

“Now, this gentleman is on the phone,” a slightly amazed Mr. Obama told the crowd of a couple of thousand people seated attentively before him in a school gym. He had been talking about the economy but stopped. Gesturing to the man, Mr. Obama told him: “Get off the phone.”

The man said something inaudible, and Mr. Obama, who assumed the man was talking to his wife, replied: “Now you’ll really have something to tell her when you call her back.” Pause. “Oh, he says it wasn’t his wife,” Mr. Obama said, eliciting a big groan from the audience.

“That’s worse,” Mr. Obama said. “I hope your wife wasn’t watching on TV when you just said that.”

The candidate said he was just teasing and then carried on with his discussion.

 

[RubxQub]

Can't you change the alert sound for text messages vs emails?

think outside the box man!

I prefer to freak out after every buzz to keep me on edge!

I'M A DONKEY ON THE EDGE!

 

[Captain Pants]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/what-would-miss-manners-say/

I would have been shitting bricks if I was that guy.

 

[maynerd]

Make it happen Barack!

 

[The Librarian]

My productivity is fucking eating it today because I'm GAFing and checking my TXT messages every second.

Come on, Obama, you can only tease your supporters for so long.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

what is the Biden love about?

 

[TDG]

I don't understand, why would Obama announce today, 24 hours before they actually appear together.

You kids are getting your hopes up for nothing, I'm thinking.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Huh, drudge/ap is saying Chet Edwards is also on the shortlist?

 

[StopMakingSense]

what is the Biden love about?

Everyone loves a dick.



(he's my guess/choice as well)

 

[The Librarian]

I don't understand, why would Obama announce today, 24 hours before they actually appear together.

You kids are getting your hopes up for nothing, I'm thinking.

It makes less sense to send his supporters a text message of who it is 1 hour, hell, even the day he is suppose to appear with his pick.

 

[NLB2]

so you refuse to do critical reading to expose a candidate's platform, paint the NYT as a 'partisan' paper (hint: a liberal rag wouldn't have oh-fuck-me Kristol in its op-ed pages) and then claim that McCain and Obama are the same.

good work!


McCain and Obama want to improve the country, but disagree on what has to be done. ergo, they are the same.

The WSJ and IBD print editorials from liberals all the time. Does that mean they're not conservative newspapers?

Do you remember this?

 

[TDG]

It makes less sense to send his supporters a text message of who it is 1 hour, hell, even the day he is suppose to appear with his pick.

Why does that make less sense? You give them the heads-up just in advance, and then an hour later you've got the signs online and the two appearing together at the event.


Besides, it's 9am Pacific, and I didn't get no text message.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

drudgereport has a new red Obama news alert every 5 minutes that damn site is freaking me out...