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Polygon Updates Battlefield 4 PS4/XB1 Review Score: 7.5 -> 4
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WTF? Sarcasm?
Conflict NZ
Member
Can't believe I actually agree with Giesy on something but I applaud this. I bought the game for Xbox one and I haven't been able to finish one multiplayer match yet. Constantly get the crash back to home screen. It's abhorrent that this was able to be released in such a condition.
NullPointer
Member
I think the justification here is that its been a month to fix things and the game is still broken, thus the downgrade.
For those of you who haven't run into problems, thank your lucky stars.
Ninja Scooter
Member
AT some point we need to ask what the fuck is wrong with this industry, in all phases, that a huge company like EA can release a high profile game like Battlefield, during the holidays, with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of budget, and have it be broken, and it's not even a big story. Like literally the most we get is a shitty little review score update from Polygon and not people calling for heads? Like why are we so accepting of this? It's so crazy it's kind of funny. It's the equivalent of going to watch Iron Man 3 and having the movie just cut off and glitch out halfway through or something. I don't get why things like this are not bigger stories.
Hip Hop
Member
The game runs much better than Battlefield 3 for me.
It's more optimized for sure.
I bought it for $20 and I've been enjoying it. Not one crash yet. Though I have been having some issues today.
Well it was reviewed with pre release code with the understanding of a day one patch. So I can understand why it would change. I'd argue that if you need a review out there day one, to withhold a score till its been played out in the open with any day one patch.
admartian
Member
blazeuk
Member
I've not played a single game that hasn't been laggy and had rubberbanding going on, had plenty of crashes too usually after about 3 games (that's trying out a mixture of all game types too). It feels like there's a good game underneath that but it's terrible in it's current state and deserves it's score lowered (I wouldn't recommend it to anyone).
It should never have to come to changing the score though, reviewers should seriously reconsider how they review games, just preview the game and if they're so obsessed with numbers, score the preview and then write an actual review a week after launch when they can get some real experience with it rather than in a stress free environment.
If you read their 11/27 update that tested the Xbox One and PS4 versions, they say that the initial launch was problematic, but a bunch of fixes made the multiplayer experience basically fine for them. They also added a caveat saying that players should wait anyways to see how the multiplayer stuff plays out.
And they probably thought the very first launch was fine because
PanicFreak
Member
Battlefield has been pretty buggy for me. I've probably played it four times since I got it and it's booted me twice. It's not a huge deal since the Xbox One gets me into games faster than the 360 but it can be annoying.
I've been playing on PS4 since launch. Yes, the crashes can be frustrating as with any other game. Server stability also leaves a lot of potential fun out in the cold. Still, the game is one of the best Battlefields ever made. Easily there with BF2 and BC2.
Sometimes I feel Polygon does these review updates more for sensationalism than journalism. They can double their view count with a simple negative paragraph every few weeks. Rarely do I see a review update that's actually positive, even after the issues that undermined the original review are addressed.
It's a good site, and their reviews are generally well written, though everything is viewed through a pretentious guise that's hard to shake.
Sometimes I feel Polygon does these review updates more for sensationalism than journalism. They can double their view count with a simple negative paragraph every few weeks. Rarely do I see a review update that's actually positive, even after the issues that undermined the original review are addressed.
It's a good site, and their reviews are generally well written, though everything is viewed through a pretentious guise that's hard to shake.
No egg on my face it's a rental. I find it funny that polygon is the bad guy here. Dice is the same company who released the buggiest pc game ever in Battlefield 2. Review scores haven't mattered to me in a long while.
SniperHunter
Banned
holy shit
Ninja Scooter
Member
A reviewer should not just give a PR mouth the benefit of the doubt and a handshake "understanding" that everything will be okay. This should not be acceptable. It's pathetic really. Goes to show you that reviewer-->PR relationship is far more sacred then reviewer-->consumer. You are supposed to be cynical of the multi-billion dollar corporations, not the guys sitting at home reading your reviews.
Future PhaZe
Member
Reviewers rarely play multiplayer
Listen to a giant bomb episode and take a shot for everytime you hear the quote, " That stuff seems okay/alright". There's an accepted casual indifference to multiplayer by reviewers that barely goes beyond checking to see what new systems have been added.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Dice/EA went out there and committed daylight robbery on people, took their money and ran for it. The supposed police officers aka the game reviewers are suppose to stop this, but they went along for the ride.
Now weeks later the police officer is sitting at his desk cursing that he helped the thief run into the night. The police officer is now telling the robbed civilian how big of a jerk the robber was while he waves his finger in a disapproving way.
Same thing, if not worse happened with Skyrim on PS3, none of them bothered to warn people. Only months later would they even bother acknowledging it
Now weeks later the police officer is sitting at his desk cursing that he helped the thief run into the night. The police officer is now telling the robbed civilian how big of a jerk the robber was while he waves his finger in a disapproving way.
Same thing, if not worse happened with Skyrim on PS3, none of them bothered to warn people. Only months later would they even bother acknowledging it
It's a rule around here that you have to hate Arthur Gies!
You don't understand because you're not part of the cool in-crowd.
- Freezing on loading screens
- Rubber-band lag
- Frequent crashes
- Campaign progress being deleted.
- Sound cutting out (non-major)
illustri0us
Banned
So U don't quote my full post?
In 2013, any game getting 9's or 10's better have good ai, especially a goty single player focused stealth type game
Polygon don't follow the crowd... They obviously not bothered about upsetting a powerhouse like EA
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
It is stupid to review a mp game like this or Killzone definitively after having only played several sessions of the multiplayer just for the sake of getting a review score out there in time.
But I thought the whole point of updating review scores was so that they could raise/lower the score of a game as it improves/worsens. But instead they give a game a higher score than it deserves at the beginning in the hopes that it will improve in the near future. They rated the game based on what it could be instead of what it currently is. Kinda defeats the purpose of updating scores, don't you think? They should have given the game a lower score at the beginning so that they can raise it later whenever the game improves.
He's super inconsistent.
It is a problem. But I don't really know what options there are given game development practices. Not post any reviews till a week or two after release? Review it as if the pre release code is it and thus every game with online probably should get a 4 or less?
Maybe that would encourage publishers to wait till shits ready, I don't know.
Delusibeta
Banned
Kids, this sort of thing is why game reviews are shit, and Polygon's reviews are shittiest. The publishers have too much control (the initial review was based on a review event hosted by EA), and games with a heavy multiplayer element are flat-out unreviewable until launch day. Hence Polygon's idea of updating scores, which would make sense if they updated the scores in any event other than "EA game is unplayable at launch", which utterly defeats the point.
In 4-5 months time I'm confident it will be awesome, at the moment though, it's just not worth bothering with.
NullPointer
Member
No disagreement here.
If they also make a way to properly join games with your friends and squad up, then sure. That could happen.
But right now, even if this game worked it wouldn't work.
It never worked
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/10/30/battlefield-4-how-xbox-one-and-ps4-stack-up-against-pc/
and single player was broken too
On one hand, they shouldn't have released a broken product.
On the other hand, I'm really enjoying the game. And if I had to choose between playing the game now with zits and all or waiting until say, March. I'd choose now.
Maybe they should've put this on Steam Early Access. :V
On the other hand, I'm really enjoying the game. And if I had to choose between playing the game now with zits and all or waiting until say, March. I'd choose now.
Maybe they should've put this on Steam Early Access. :V
Maninthemirror
Banned
By lowering the score , Geis has lowered the score of the meta score of all released games for ps4 at a higher degree than xbox 1 due to the quantity of games released.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Yeah, I'm coming around to the idea.
This kind of post-release mess is unacceptable if you've already paid and a deterrent to buy it while it continues.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Everyone should do this. I bought the game friday after they supposedly fixed some of the issues but the game is still definitely broken. There is no excuse for this. I sold the game today and will never buy it again. EA needs to give people their money back.
Yea, so NOW you update the score as if you're doing gamers a favor. I commend them from not completely ignoring the issues though...
Also, I guess framerate differences don't matter with this one. /devil's advocate
I think all devs need to be accountable for their games AT LAUNCH. Stop sucking up to the publisher and do your job because you only encourage this bullshit to happen if you don't call them on it. We see more and more games launch incomplete because they fucking get away with it.
Also, I guess framerate differences don't matter with this one. /devil's advocate
I think all devs need to be accountable for their games AT LAUNCH. Stop sucking up to the publisher and do your job because you only encourage this bullshit to happen if you don't call them on it. We see more and more games launch incomplete because they fucking get away with it.
Vicetrailia
Member
I did not enjoy that video review, still didn't get an impression of how the game is. "It's not just clever, it's smart" Overwritten already.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I actually am
For the life of me, I can't get this game to run smooth on my PC. My mouse movements are so choppy that I can't see a damned thing and get shot before I ever knew what happened. I tried tweaking sensitivities all over the place and it's a jumpy mess.
I just gave up for the time being and will never buy a Battlefiled game so close after launch again. If ever even buy another one.