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Polygon's marathon Xbox One live stream

So what's the tangible consensus here about XBone after this? Is there anyone that was legitimately swayed to hold off on the system after viewing this?
 
There is a distinct difference between this Polygon video review of the Xbox One and what they actually demonstrated for the past 12 hours.

Ok so even forgetting the fact that Polygon scored the Xbone higher than the PS4, how do these people reconcile the fact that the stream we all just saw in no way, shape, or form lines up with their glowing written review of the same product? I mean it's one thing to be inconsistent across multiple products, but the same product? WTF? I seriously can't wait until these corporate shithole gaming sites go the way of the Dodo.

There is but one answer. Search in your heart, you know it to be true.

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I wouldn't be a surprised to see a difference between early impressions and how people feel after the honeymoon period is over.

I'm glad that reviewers seem to be hitting this point now instead of 3 months form now.
 
So what's the legitimate consensus here about XBone after this? Is there anyone that was legitimately swayed to hold off on the system viewing this?

For me, it doesn't seem like it's worth the price tag if it doesn't work all the time.

The moment Kinect fails to recognize a command one time, most casual people will give up using voice command altogether.

The games are there, but no real must have exclusives makes it easy to hold off on buying one until they drop the price or make a SKU without Kinect.
 
I wouldn't be a surprised to see a difference between first impressions and how people feel after the honeymoon period is over.

I'm glad that reviewers seem to be hitting this point now instead of 3 months form now.

Yeah at the end they were only using the controller, no voice commands. That says something to me
 
So what's the tangible consensus here about XBone after this? Is there anyone that was legitimately swayed to hold off on the system after viewing this?

Stating the obvious, it's clear it's not finished. Kinect 2.0 has the same accuracy as kinect 1.0. TV stuff imo makes no sense and have no idea why anyone would use it. If your that much into tv (dvr/tivo service) you still have to use that cable box 90% of the time. I know tv is where the money is at especially ads, but it doesn't even seem like they put huge thought into making it work. Stuff like google tv fails for a reason. The market isn't there.

Despite all that, they have a solid lineup in 2014 so at least they didn't totally drop the ball in that area.
 
Stating the obvious, it's clear it's not finished. Kinect 2.0 has the same accuracy as kinect 1.0. TV stuff imo makes no sense and have no idea why anyone would use it. If your that much into tv (dvr/tivo service) you still have to use that cable box 90% of the time. I know tv is where the money is at especially ads, but it doesn't even seem like they put huge thought into making it work. Stuff like google tv fails for a reason. The market isn't there.

Despite all that, they have a solid lineup in 2014 so at least they didn't totally drop the ball in that area.

Yeah. More or less what I got out of it as well. I started the stream and after watching them fumble around with the interface / Kinect, and saw how the games looked, I cancelled my about to ship Xbox One from Amazon.

I'll grab one for Titanfall.
 
So what's the tangible consensus here about XBone after this? Is there anyone that was legitimately swayed to hold off on the system after viewing this?

Personally, I was hugely turned off by the system by this stream, I won't even look at this system till at least a $100 price drop. Kinect is just not something I'm going to want to mess with and I won't be forced to pay that $100 premium for it. Game wise we are already seeing multi plat games all being better on the PS4 so that means there needs to be nice library of exclusive AAA Xbone titles before I purchase it.
 
Yeah. More or less what I got out of it as well. I started the stream and after watching them fumble around with the interface / Kinect, and saw how the games looked, I cancelled my about to ship Xbox One from Amazon.

I'll grab one for Titanfall.

Coulda made some cash selling it.
 
What was so bad about the Xbox One during the livestream that it seems to conflict with their hardware review?

I haven't read their hardware review but via the stream Kinect was a mess, worked less then half the time but someone claimed it worked 100% of the time for them personally lol. Also the menus seemed like a mess.
 
I haven't read their hardware review but via the stream Kinect was a mess, worked less then half the time but someone claimed it worked 100% of the time for them personally lol. Also the menus seemed like a mess.

Their hardware review ends with "8/10, this feels like something from the FUTURE".
 
Something feels off about Gies not being there, somewhere i envision a man in a raincoat on a rooftop with two cats and a bottle of grey goose wondering "is it over yet?"
 
The load/install times are bad. Surprised it's not getting that much attention.

Noticed that on Dead Rising on the Gamespot stream yesterday, took a while to load the game then another long wait for the campaign to load. Not GTA slow but pretty damn slow.

Nothing that ive seen today feels like "its from the future". Thats a pretty bold statement.

So it's not "So Future"?
 
Noticed that on Dead Rising on the Gamespot stream yesterday, took a while to load the game then another long wait for the campaign to load. Not GTA slow but pretty damn slow.



So it's not "So Future"?

Everything I saw from the 12 hour stream today did not come close to 'so future'. The most 'futuristic' ability on these new consoles so far (well on PS4 so far) is the ability to stream in a couple button presses. Everything else could have been done on current consoles.
 
Everything I saw from the 12 hour stream today did not come close to 'so future'. The most 'futuristic' ability on these new consoles so far (well on PS4 so far) is the ability to stream in a couple button presses. Everything else could have been done on current consoles.

Not really. The fast switching between apps and games (keeping them suspended) etc. would not be possible at all on the 360. There is a reason that the 360 is slow as shit now.

And while the One doesn't seem super fast, give them some time. Unlike Nintendo, Microsoft will actually tweak the performance of the system OS and speed it up.
 
Dunno why but I was imagining what an episode of Star Trek would be like if the crew had to issue commands multiple times like in this livestream. I think that would make for a really funny Star Trek parody.
 
Looks like Polygon ironically reviewed the Xbox One based on how it might perform in the future. Because presently, that's several streams now I've watched where Kinect is cumbersome to use and takes multiple voice commands to even register certain tasks. Why would anyone use this over the controller? Fact that Polygon themselves switched over to the pad instead of sticking with Kinect says it all.

Polygon continue to embarrass themselves.
 
Noticed that on Dead Rising on the Gamespot stream yesterday, took a while to load the game then another long wait for the campaign to load. Not GTA slow but pretty damn slow.

The installs sound crazy bad. COD had a 20 min install before you can play. That shit is just unacceptable and weird how that got glossed over. There playgo system doesn't sound as functional as the PS4's. For KI they had to wait til it was 75% to be playable and it's only a 3GB game. I'm not sure how other games were but that doesn't sound good so far.
 
Not really. The fast switching between apps and games (keeping them suspended) etc. would not be possible at all on the 360. There is a reason that the 360 is slow as shit now.

And while the One doesn't seem super fast, give them some time. Unlike Nintendo, Microsoft will actually tweak the performance of the system OS and speed it up.

Of course it will get better but what I mean is switching apps fast didnt make me go 'oh shit, wow, so nice, too future'. I mean every device I own right now switches apps mighty fast, my computer, my laptop, my ipad, iphone etc. Streaming from a console with no extra hardware was kind of like an 'oh shit' moment for me. Just my opinion and all...

That's really a line from the review? Seems like something they would say just so MS would quote them in an ad campaign or something

Thats how the video review ended, yes.

Any clips of this stream yet from when they were failing at kinect and moving the couch?

http://new.livestream.com/polygon/xbox-one-live-stream

Go down to the 3rd video thats named "Xbox One live stream playing Kinect games". It starts there.
 
Watching some bits of the stream, man the Verge guys really tear it apart haha. O and Zoo Tycoon seems like a must have app for parents to play with their kids, dunno if little kids would know how to navigate the menus and setup their zoos
 
Watching some bits of the stream, man the Verge guys really tear it apart haha. O and Zoo Tycoon seems like a must have app for parents to play with their kids, dunno if little kids would know how to navigate the menus and setup their zoos

Only want to watch the parts where the Verge guys show up. Can you tell me which video they show up on?

Edit** Pretty funny that they have all these Xbone ads all over the place.
 
Forza has been discussed to death at this point; but after that GAF thread awhile back, discussing how Forza handles "reflections" on cars. I couldn't help but have my attention on it.

One thing that was painfully obvious during this stream is the "pop out" of meshes visible on the back of your car. Just watch the reflection on the back of the car and wait for any pole, sign, etc. to be visible on it. Then wait a second after that point and it will pop out very visibly.
 
Only want to watch the parts where the Verge guys show up. Can you tell me which video they show up on?

Edit** Pretty funny that they have all these Xbone ads all over the place.
Go to the link in the OP they split up the stream into chunks already and find the one with the verge in the title
 
This was much better than their PS4 snarkathon. My main man Chris Plante is one hell of a dancer and Griffin Mcelroy nailed it at the end.
 
Loved the verge segment but stopped watching when they switch to the games - do they have an archive I can watch?

I realise they are more technical than other game sites, but many of their comments echo game sites impressions - voice recognition is OK (but OK isn't good enough for the primary interaction), navigation with a controller is confusing, and TV isn't perfect. Yet there are so many positive reviews of the hardware. Are sites reviewing what they hope it'll be?

I also liked one of the Polygon guys comments about the oneguide. He thought the live TV, 1998 tivo-style passthrough was just a stepping stone, a 'this is what we can do now without needing deals with cable companies'. The app channels are the real meat of where oneguide can go. I don't think Sony is in a position to compete with integrating those video apps in a guide like that, and letting you search across services, nor can it compete with the number of apps that MS could bring if they open the Xbox up to windows 8 apps.

That's where I think MS should focus,not on the HDMI a passthrough stuff. Do live TV&video via apps
 
Stating the obvious, it's clear it's not finished. Kinect 2.0 has the same accuracy as kinect 1.0. TV stuff imo makes no sense and have no idea why anyone would use it. If your that much into tv (dvr/tivo service) you still have to use that cable box 90% of the time. I know tv is where the money is at especially ads, but it doesn't even seem like they put huge thought into making it work. Stuff like google tv fails for a reason. The market isn't there.

Despite all that, they have a solid lineup in 2014 so at least they didn't totally drop the ball in that area.

You also have to consider they're making original tv content, so they aren't just relying on what is out there on cable.
 
Because, generally speaking, ambition is better than not attempting anything at all, even if it is poorly executed. We're talking about a site that fetishizes multitasking/multifunction devices. The PS4 would of course seem a little bland from that perspective.

Ambition is nothing without some ability to execute. If you took a go kart to an F1 race I'd admire your ambition but you'd still lose.

IR blaster plus video pass through is late '90s tech. TiVo did it. MS already tried it once too, and Google TVs is the latest failure. Perhaps the goal is right but the solution isn't?

And if you're marking ambition, why does that have to use a fancy UI or gadgets to wave your arms at? Sony are investing in IPTV as their solution to bring live TV to their platforms, they've had accessory boxes that bring live TV (and DVR capability) to PS3. They don't lack ambition in this space, they're just focusing the message elsewhere at the moment.

Apps could be huge for MS and I really hope they do open the floodgates as Nilay put it. It probably won't be anywhere near as huge as the ios App Store, but it could be *the* gamechanger for MS.
 
Zoo Tycoon looks great but the load times don't help me inspire confidence in the 360 version being as good as this. :(.

Damn it, I want a PC version. :( I'd take this over Titanfall (don't kill me please, I'm a big Zooty fan :( )

edit: yup... looks like I'm hoping for a PC version or getting this when the XBone is a lot cheaper. :(
 
Loved the verge segment but stopped watching when they switch to the games - do they have an archive I can watch?

I realise they are more technical than other game sites, but many of their comments echo game sites impressions - voice recognition is OK (but OK isn't good enough for the primary interaction), navigation with a controller is confusing, and TV isn't perfect. Yet there are so many positive reviews of the hardware. Are sites reviewing what they hope it'll be?

I also liked one of the Polygon guys comments about the oneguide. He thought the live TV, 1998 tivo-style passthrough was just a stepping stone, a 'this is what we can do now without needing deals with cable companies'. The app channels are the real meat of where oneguide can go. I don't think Sony is in a position to compete with integrating those video apps in a guide like that, and letting you search across services, nor can it compete with the number of apps that MS could bring if they open the Xbox up to windows 8 apps.

That's where I think MS should focus,not on the HDMI a passthrough stuff. Do live TV&video via apps

I don't understand the focus on live programming at a time when the vast majority of people don't watch live television, and those that do only do so a small percentage of the time. And since the Xbox doesn't work with DVRs its tv functions are extremely limited.

People keep using the word " future" in regard to this system, but it smells a whole lot like the past to me.
 
Streaming from a console with no extra hardware was kind of like an 'oh shit' moment for me. Just my opinion and all...

Whatever floats your boat I guess.

That stuff is useless to me. All it does is create unnecessary data and create huge amounts of network traffic for Twitch and co. (which I am sure they get compensated for by the platform holders).

The game dvr stuff, sharing short clips that is cool. But streaming and archiving some random dude playing a game? Nah, if you really want to stream and have an audience that watches your shit, you already have the hardware (and it also is much better quality as well).
 
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