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Possible Jurassic World 2 plot details revealed (potential premise spoilers)

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i bet this guy owns allcreatureshaverights.com

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It'd be really cool if he could reprise his role. I'm sure he's available...
 
How many side female characters will be brutally killed, despite giving the audience no reason to want them or expect them to die in this one. I'm guessing 3.

Also the lab scenes in these movies make me want Resident Evil x Dino Crisis so bad.
 
Will we get tag team dino wombo combos? Because then I don't care what the plot is. I'll watch it. I didn't even know what the plot of the previous one was outside of "it's got dinosaurs because of Jurassic stuff"
 

Aurongel

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Jurassic World was such a perfect culmination of the mindless fan service and nostalgia pandering that modern soft remakes suffer from. It would have had a softer landing if it had a decent script but even that especially brought the whole thing down. That whole film was basically JP fan fiction in the vein of "more means better. Bigger means better!"

The premise here sounds solid and more unique but my expectations are very low.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Low expectations and all, but at least it does develop the franchise past the idea of "Park fails, dinosaurs eat guests", even if Jurassic Park III sort of tried to do something different.

As a sci-fi franchise there's a lot of ground to cover with the idea of dinosaurs being re-introduced into the modern world and the consequences of kind of genetic technology involved.
 
They feel a certain responsibility to the animals. I wonder what responsibility they feel for the thousands of people that died when they opened the giant doors to a dinosaur cage, because they are both the 2 biggest fucking idiots on planet earth, that led to the dino escaping and going on a rampage.
 
They feel a certain responsibility to the animals. I wonder what responsibility they feel for the thousands of people that died when they opened the giant doors to a dinosaur cage, because they are both the 2 biggest fucking idiots on planet earth, that led to the dino escaping and going on a rampage.

That's not what happened lol
 
And even at that, who's to say the movie wont touch on the responsibility for the loss of human life. I suspect it will.

Ingen practically sabotaged the park with the hybrid. I don't really blame what happened on Claire or Owen especially. They didn't know it could camouflage so there was no reason for them to think it was still in the cage. If anything Masrani is more at fault for not directly overseeing the creation of the Indominus. He just let Wu do whatever, those assholes knew the thing would likely escape them at some point.
 

D.Lo

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Can they please pay extra to get the original director back to keep him away from Star Wars?

God JW was so shit.

That was the point of Zara dying, though. It was unexpected.

It didn't work, but it definitely was not due to some nefarious sexism on the part of the writers or director.
that's not how it played at all. They tried to paint her as a 'bad person' since she was not doing her job perfectly, so in film terms she then 'deserved' a slow, violent horrible death. It was disgraceful, if not really sexist.
 
They literally went inside first, and then checked the gps which let them know it was still inside. Only complete idiots would go in before checking the gps. So yes that is what happened.

There's literally no reason for them to think the Indominus was still in there as they had absolutely no idea it could camo. So the guys went into the cage to investigate as Claire hurried to get in touch with Lowery, who then confirmed that it was indeed still in the cage.
 
There's literally no reason for them to think the Indominus was still in there as they had absolutely no idea it could camo. So the guys went into the cage to investigate as Claire hurried to get in touch with Lowery, who then confirmed that it was indeed still in the cage.

What info was going to be divined by them walking into the enclosure? Chris Pratt to other dude: "Yep, those are scratches on a wall. Glad I walked in here". Why would you not just wait until you confirmed it wasn't in there with the gps?

And unless everyone around the enclosure was blind and deaf there is literality every reason to believe it was still in there. There is a zero percent chance not one person saw or heard a giant dinosaur climb over a giant wall and jump down on the other side.
 
What info was going to be divined by them walking into the enclosure? Chris Pratt to other dude: "Yep, those are scratches on a wall. Glad I walked in here". Why would you not just wait until you confirmed it wasn't in there with the gps?

Who knows? They went in there to find out how it got out. It's what they would do. Pratt was literally there to help weed out any fallacies in the enclosure design and structure.

And unless everyone around the enclosure was blind and deaf there is literality every reason to believe it was still in there. There is a zero percent chance not one person saw or heard a giant dinosaur climb over a giant wall and jump down on the other side.

And this is one of those things that's like, if I questioned everything in a movie down to this, I'd always be complaining about something or finding logical issues. In the original movie Nedry literally stammers through his reasoning as to why some of the fences might go down, was sweating, etc. and they didn't suspect anything? Tim closes the car door with the Rex standing next to it, which would have obviously gotten its attention and like shutting a door is going to help them! There's shit like this in everything.

They didn't exactly go around asking personnel if they heard something or whatever, they were trying to figure out what the hell happened.
 
Idk, sounds better than JP3 but it still sounds like a variant of TLW aka another island adventure + I'm sure there will be more InGen monkey wrench shenanigans, "But you didn't tell us you where hiding this black ops HYBRID DIABLOSAURUS on the island!". Was kinda hoping we would go to the mainland.

Actually I wish HBO or someone could get the rights to do a high budget miniseries or something.
 
that's not how it played at all. They tried to paint her as a 'bad person' since she was not doing her job perfectly, so in film terms she then 'deserved' a slow, violent horrible death. It was disgraceful, if not really sexist.

That's really a stretch, dude. Nowhere in the film does it ever show her as someone other than a person that two characters evade at an opportune moment. She's barely even a character.

Like I said, I have issues with how they handled Zara, but to paint some malicious manspiracy on it is really naive.
 
In the original movie Nedry literally stammers through his reasoning as to why some of the fences might go down, was sweating, etc. and they didn't suspect anything? Tim closes the car door with the Rex standing next to it, which would have obviously gotten its attention and like shutting a door is going to help them! There's shit like this in everything.

They didn't exactly go around asking personnel if they heard something or whatever, they were trying to figure out what the hell happened.


Nedry is an employee that they're clearly putting a huge amount of trust in.


Tim's a kid, kids are stupid.

OT: New plot points seem decent, sounds like it's going to be a race against the clock.
 

Amalthea

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I wonder if the guy who made fun of Malcom in the beginning of The Lost World felt ever sorry for his words and deeds.
The point where you realize how shoehorned in the San Diego rampage was is when he didn't get eaten there. Seriously, this might be TLW's big missed opportunity.
 
After Henry Wu was spirited away in the aftermath of Jurassic World's chaos, he was relocated to another facility in the Andaman archipelago. Once again, another island becomes INGEN's ace in the hole, and amid another menagerie of prehistoric beasts, Wu brings back one of the great hunters long since deemed extinct...

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After Henry Wu was spirited away in the aftermath of Jurassic World's chaos, he was relocated to another facility in the Andaman archipelago. Once again, another island becomes INGEN's ace in the hole, and amid another menagerie of prehistoric beasts, Wu brings back one of the great hunters long since deemed extinct...

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D.Lo

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That's really a stretch, dude. Nowhere in the film does it ever show her as someone other than a person that two characters evade at an opportune moment. She's barely even a character.

Like I said, I have issues with how they handled Zara, but to paint some malicious manspiracy on it is really naive.
Then why did she get a two minute long extreme violence-porn death? Far more painful and slow than any other death on the franchise? In normal film language that is punishment.
 
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Contica

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Then why did she get a two minute long extreme violence-porn death? Far more painful and slow than any other death on the franchise? In normal film language that is punishment.

She died because dinosaurs are animals and animals don't give a damn who you are. The whole point was that horrible things can happen to people who really don't deserve it.

From Trevorrow himself: “And Zara was about trying to surprise moviegoers, who I think can see everything coming,” Trevorrow said. “We're all screenwriters. We're all screenwriters, and an earned death — that's a screenwriting term — to me, unearned death is the definition of terror.”

I think you'll enjoy movies more if you stop thinking there are set rules that decide how, why and when things happen.
 

D.Lo

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She died because dinosaurs are animals and animals don't give a damn who you are. The whole point was that horrible things can happen to people who really don't deserve it.

From Trevorrow himself: “And Zara was about trying to surprise moviegoers, who I think can see everything coming,” Trevorrow said. “We're all screenwriters. We're all screenwriters, and an earned death — that's a screenwriting term — to me, unearned death is the definition of terror.”

I think you'll enjoy movies more if you stop thinking there are set rules that decide how, why and when things happen.
Ugh, it's not a 'random surprise' when it's done as a semi-comedy routine where she is passed amongst several dinos before finally being eaten by the giant one. The film made a point that this particular death was super horrible in a very unlikely way.

And you have to obey the understood language of film, especially in a blockbuster. If they were trying to usurp that with 'that's so random' they failed big time.
 
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Contica

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And you have to obey the understood language of film, especially in a blockbuster.

And by language you mean rules saying gruesome, elaborate and pointless death must fall on deserving victim? I feel like I'm missing something here, because everything you say flies in the face of creativity itself.

I mean, we're not discussing the execution here, we're talking about whether or not it's legal under the universal law of film?
 

D.Lo

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And by language you mean rules saying gruesome, elaborate and pointless death must fall on deserving victim? I feel like I'm missing something here, because everything you say flies in the face of creativity itself.

I mean, we're not discussing the execution here, we're talking about whether or not it's legal under the universal law of film?
The execution is part of it, they are intertwined. It would be fine if she was just snatched quickly. Instead the movie clearly makes a big point about her death being especially horrific.
 
Then why did she get a two minute long extreme violence-porn death? Far more painful and slow than any other death on the franchise? In normal film language that is punishment.

Her death really bothered me but probably because it was also so drawn out
but technically it wasn't much worse than
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might just be the tone throwing it off so much.
 
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Contica

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The execution is part of it, they are intertwined. It would be fine if she was just snatched quickly. Instead the movie clearly makes a big point about her death being especially horrific.

Ok, whatever. I'm just really glad I don't let imagined rules guide my enjoyment of entertainment.
 

D.Lo

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Her death really bothered me but probably because it was also so drawn out
but technically it wasn't much worse than
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might just be the tone throwing it off so much.
That one was half as long, and at least wasn't silly, it was just two animals killing something somewhat realistically, not a rube-goldberg style completely impossible series of events where the victim is passed among five separate attacking animals.

EDIT: Had the scene wrong, was viewing gif on my phone.
 
Yeah my bad I edited.
I mean im agreeing with you
but for me the execution was what ruins the whole scene.

Like I think it had the tone of a satisfactory villain death which was just weird
Had it felt more horror-ish as Eddie's had it would have somewhat worked.
(especially when its easily the worst in the movie)
 

D.Lo

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I mean im agreeing with you
but for me the execution was what ruins the whole scene.

Like I think it had the tone of a satisfactory villain death which was just weird
Had it felt more horror-ish as Eddie's had it would have somewhat worked.
(especially when its easily the worst in the movie)
Yeah totally. And on top of that she was painted as a 'minor' villain by the movie due to letting the kids get away. If she was a clear good guy it would just be a horror thing, if poorly done.

Of course on top of that the movie had many other busted character issues, like how the two 'heroes' actually caused the whole thing, and don't get me started on Private Pyle.
 
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