WrenchNinja
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Man fuck off Nintendo
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Project AM2R getting legally slammed by Nintendo; file hosts hit with DMCA notices
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NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Well no, they own the Metroid brand. If you want to play Metroid 2, they still sell it. This remake is potentially lost sales for them so they're going to get it taken down.
How deep in corporate fanboyism do you have to be to post like this?
That they do absolutely fuck all with...yep. Protective.
But there are people who didn't. I didn't play Metroid 2 before this remake. Now that this is out, there's no purpose for me to get Metroid 2 on the eshop at all. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Look at it the other way. The developer could have listened to the warnings (and common sense), put very little additional effort into the game and swapped some sprites and changed the title. He would probably own a legitimate indie hit now and get a far better payoff from the years of work he put into the project.
Hope Nintendo doesn't go after him or settles out of court.
Without a statement it's hard to tell, for all we know Nintendo could be looking for a way to bring the team on or hire them to officially release this (with some additional Nintendo polish).
Its a bad look right now but I'm sure so much (if any of) the discussion is behind closed doors and we have no clue what's happening.
That being said.
Praise umbasa I downloaded it last night.
Its a bad look right now but I'm sure so much (if any of) the discussion is behind closed doors and we have no clue what's happening.
That being said.
Praise umbasa I downloaded it last night.
Message anyone on here who has it. They'll gladly share it.
Holy Order Sol
Member
None of this warrants the type of shit people do when fangames are mentioned. If one is announced and all you're going to say is something like "in before C&D lololo" then yeah you deserve to be told to fuck off regardless of what ends up happening, and especially when acting like the game was going to be prevented from coming out at all which wasn't the case.
Green Mamba
Member
I already own Metroid II a couple times, and their pathetic excuse for a 3DS Metroid title does a good enough job of losing sales on its own.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I mean, if you consider multiple games in the past decade, appearances in spinoff titles and and upcoming 3DS title "fuck all", sure.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
This CANNOT be mentioned ENOUGH!!
Fan/mod developers-If you're using an I.P. that isn't yours, KEEP IT QUIET. NO TALK, NOTHING, UNTIL YOU ARE ABLE TO RELEASE IT. Obviously, I don't condone taking liberties with the I.P. like turning Samus into a porn star or something and don't monetize it.
Knew Nintendo would jump on this, glad I snagged a copy.
P.S. Nintendo should hire this guy.
I made a conscious choice to not buy Metroid 2 on eshop because it's well... awful. But I am playing this remake because it's great. I am sure a lot of people feel that way as well.
GhostTrick
Banned
Yes, especially upcoming 3DS title is "fuck all".
Let's be honest, Nintendo are idiots when it comes to manage some of their IPs.
It'll never not be. People still have it and will happily reupload and share.
SinCityAssassin
Member
They are taking it down, so they can hire that person and port it to NX/3DS. BELIEVE!Never ever going to happen.
On the unlikely chance of that happening I hope they just make a new remake. As good as this one is I didn't really like the feel of it all too much. Also the camera is pretty zoomed out so it feels like Samus is too small.
If by multiple games in the past decade you mean one shitty game and by upcoming 3DS title you mean Federation Force then yeah that pretty much is the definition of fuck all.
Exactly. Valve in particular pretty much only releases fangames nowadays.
Nintendo is within their rights to do whatever they want with their IP, but that doesn't mean people can't criticize said shitty decisions.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
The developer should have remade Metroid 2 and changed the enemies and main character to avoid any copyright issues.
Christian Whitehead builds his own engine that is a near 100% replication of Genesis Sonic, this guy does the same thing for Metroid.
SEGA notices this and hires him to release his upgraded remasters of their games to mobile as well as other HD platforms, and later lets him and his team make an entirely original game.
Nintendo calls their lawyers and shuts it down. Enjoy Federation Force, fuckers.
SEGA notices this and hires him to release his upgraded remasters of their games to mobile as well as other HD platforms, and later lets him and his team make an entirely original game.
Nintendo calls their lawyers and shuts it down. Enjoy Federation Force, fuckers.
Multiple? Last game people gave a damn about was Corruption 3, which is almost a decade old. Ok, some smash appearances, and other random things. Where are the Metroid games people actually CARE about. The reception to Federation Hunters has been downright abysmal.
So yea, fuck all.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
I don't have to be deep in "corporate fanboyism" bullshit. The law is the law. I sure as hell wouldn't like people doing things with my IP if I wasn't notified ahead of time when the project was in its inception. It's disrespectful and makes people think they can do anything without consequence because of passion instead of taking the right steps and make sure that they're allowed to do this.
There's no reason why the developer couldn't make this a business pitch to Nintendo. They could have had all the leverage in the world by doing so through increased social media awareness, thirst for a new Metroid game etc.
GhostTrick
Banned
People wanted to play a Metroid game. That's the thing though. I know it may sound weird for Nintendo, but people actually like this IP.
Law is law, and that's their right. Now it doesn't mean excercizing your rights is always a good thing to do. In that case, it'll hurt them more than anything.
ITT people who can't grasp that you can't just create stuff using other people's property because emotions
The fucked up part is the people advertising this remake and spreading the word screwed the entire project. Shoulda kept it on the down low. The desire for it do "do well" led to its demise
The fucked up part is the people advertising this remake and spreading the word screwed the entire project. Shoulda kept it on the down low. The desire for it do "do well" led to its demise
Just not enough to sell well.
SinCityAssassin
Member
When your IP has been in shambles longer than Metroid's been inactive, you gotta take what you can get.
Valve just saw an opportunity for extra pocket money.
SEGA is teh exception, not the rule.
Man, some people are really stubborn
SEGA set a new standard of quality.
Man, some people are really quick to defend their favorite company's shenigans.
GhostTrick
Banned
Nearly all mainline games sold over a million though. And there' s a Metroid thirst now.
10 years...multiple games? Metroid Prime 3 was alright, but not a 2D release and the weakest in the Prime trilogy. Metroid Other M was pure concentrated shit and Federation Force is the equivalent of pissing on the fans and wondering why none of them like the taste of urine
Metroid Fusion sold just fine as far as I recall
SinCityAssassin
Member
I would argue that MP3 didn't sell well by Wii standards, but yeah the demand has been growing.
SEGA set a new standard of quality.
Man, some people are really quick to defend their favorite company's shenigans.
SEGA
Quality
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Can't wait to enjoy Federation Force! A game so half-assed, the difficulty doesn't even scale to the amount of players! Amazing! Nintendo truly knows what Metroid fans want!
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Metroid: Other M
Nintendoland
Super Smash Bros for Wii U
Super Smash Bros for Nintendo 3DS
NES Remix
Metroid Prime Federation Force
Virtual Console releases of multiple games in the series on multiple platforms
All of the above contains Metroid content in the past ten years, plus some I'm forgetting. Nintendo uses the Metroid IP often in multiple products, we're not talking about an IP that hasn't seen the light of day in almost 30 years like Alex Kidd.
SliceSabre
Banned
People say this all the time but outside of the super hardcore .5% of gamers paying attention, I doubt this will affect their bottom line by any significant measure.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm pretty sure a 2D Metroid can do as well as Kirby on the 3DS, and he got a fuckton of games in these years.
Nintendo could have been another exception here but they decided not to, which is what people are trying to point out lol.SEGA is teh exception, not the rule.
Man, some people are really stubborn
Yes they did what they're legally allowed to do, but did it to a fan game of a franchise with a fanbase they're having a really bad time connecting with and now it's about to get much worse because of all this.
They're further killing their relationship with their fans with this, it's not that hard to grasp.
SEGA is teh exception, not the rule.
Man, some people are really stubborn
Activision has allowed the same with some of the old Sierra properties that they own, both before and after they starting selling them on GoG.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Still wouldn't do well in Japan though :'(
Fusion sold over a million copies, and the Zero Mission remake sold more than half a million. And this was before the indie revival made 2D games cool again. Nintendo has followed that up by releasing zero 2D Metroids in the last decade.
you have gotta be kidding me
theres not a decent Metroid experience in that entire list, aside from Prime 3 the VC releases. You're seriously reaching - using Nintendoland as an example of a decent Metroid experience? oh man
Again, that people actually care about. i acknowledged the smash and other guest appearances. But the fact they havent done a proper, mainline entry that fans actually WANT (Other M was not well received either), means they pretty much consider the IP dead.
That caveat is stupid and completely irrelevant to the principle of what's going on here. The AM2R developer made a high quality product that people want and would be willing to pay for, just like talented SEGA and Valve fans have in the past. There's precedence for these kinds of projects being adopted as official products as a sign of goodwill and positive consumer relations, as well as, frankly, "extra pocket money".
Instead, Nintendo chose to anger their fanbase and shut this down with no consolation for no reason.