Nappuccino
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its also rather obvious they photoshopped her head on. It is like 2 times too big for the body.
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PROMETHEUS Full Theatrical Trailer (2:32) + International UK trailer (2:47)
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Cameron should just drop his plans for avatar and sign up for two sequels of Prometheus instead. It's a much more interesting universe than "John Carter-Lite"
Just get Alien and Aliens, watch the theatrical cut of Alien, the director cut of Aliens.
EDIT: Apparently it's the 'special edition' of Aliens, but still.
Nappuccino
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Alien and Aliens are both worth picking up.
Don't listen to Sculli (or stu), watch the theatrical versions of both (and then watch the directors cut of Aliens later if you're interested)
Yup, my standing advice is, watch the theatrical of both. Then watch the extended editions of both and make up your own mind. At the very least, the longer versions have some interesting additions.
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The Aliens Special Edition is the definitive version of the film. Theatrical cut is missing a lot of key things and some of the scenes in the extended version are actually pretty famous and were very influential on various video games over the years
Nappuccino
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It's also missing a lot of extra cheesy dialog and a some establishing information that ruins some of the surprise of what happens later.
What about The Abyss? I don't think there are any advantages to the theatrical cut except being an inferior story.
Indeed. There is content in the special edition that is detrimental to the film, mixed with much that adds to it. The intro on LV426 is the largest chunk of the former.
This would be my pick also. The extended edition is has no content I'd have liked to see removed, though it's been a long time since I saw the theatrical version for comparison. It feels like a different movie.
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A million times yes. The effects used in the first two Alien movies look really good today. To me practical effects are more impressive and hold up way more than CG. The acid scene in the first movie still blows my mind.
I'd suggest watching the theatrical versions of Alien, and Aliens. Skip the others.
Edit: The Special Edition is the definitive version of Aliens, but on your first watch go with the theatrical cut. I'd never suggest watching the Special Edition first.
I actually prefer the theatrical cut of The Abyss, I think the Special Edition is way too heavy handed, I like the slightly subtler conclusion to the original.
T2 I prefer the theatrical cut, but it's missing the scene in which they remove his learning chip and consider killing him, which is beautiful, but the other additions weaken the film, the horrible smile scene for example.
I like the middle length cut of Avatar the most, but I like the scene which breaks up the learning montage in the longest cut, which was my biggest issue with the original cut.
They're all hit and miss, but Aliens is just flat out superior in it's longer iteration for me.
The "extended" edition of Alien actually runs a minute less.
The changes made are honestly minimal, it's nothing like Aliens' Special Edition.Anticitizen One
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really? like what?
That's an interesting opinion, and one I haven't heard a lot from. I can actually see your point about the larger beats of the Special Edition, especially in how a lot of the mystery is completely taken out towards the end in favor of a conclusive tree-hugging ending. But my counter-point is that I don't feel the Theatrical Cut was very good at all, and the lack of character development and the way the story doesn't really feel paced towards anything hurts it a lot. So I definitely prefer the more heavy handed version because at least it feels complete.
I agree with this completely. I prefer the original cut, and I wish some scenes were added in, but not the others.
The "extended" edition of Alien actually runs a minute less.
Oh, I know, I just keep struggling with what to call it. It's not a director's cut, so that didn't work. I love that Scott made nips and tucks to compensate for the impact on pacing that the new scenes had. The original is still the best cut, but it helped the other cut considerably.
The entire sequence showing the colonists finding the derelict ship was needless.
As was Hudson's added macho speech on the drop ship, and someone getting scared by a rat...
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I like that bit in the international trailer where Charlize like... her hair is wet and she's staring at us as she crouches. Her intense stare into my soul makes me hard. For some reason.
I hope the nightmare drone has a full track on the soundtrack.
I hope the nightmare drone has a full track on the soundtrack.
Nappuccino
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It cuts out all of the colony stuff from Hadley's Hope. This includes Newt's parents finding the space ship from Alien and returning with a face hugger on her father. So you know it is the same kind of alien and there is no question that it has already struck.
Without those scenes, they are just investigating something that might be a broken transmitter. With those scenes, you know what has happened with makes that discovery much less surprising/ engaging.
This is the worst thing.
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Empire's May issue cover
Makes me happy I renewed my subscription (although this was to get the newest Assassin's Creed as a gift with it, just like the previous year). The subscriber covers always look way better.
Yeah that scene, while kinda funny in a vacuum, completely ruins the drop. In my opinion all of Aliens' added stuff should just be tucked away in a "Deleted Scenes" menu.
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My perfect cut of Aliens would include the sentry gun scene and the name exchange scene. If the scene where she finds out
her daughter is dead
It's hard to really say with any of these things because you need to have seen them all to know which you prefer, at which point anything missing you still can't help but know. I saw the extended cut of The Abyss before the theatrical cut, so seeing that, it's easier for me just to see the more restrained ending as a significant positive, without the other draw backs inherent to the shorter length. That sounds convoluted I'm sure, and it's hard to explain what I really mean.
Purely academic, Promethese is an inevitability.
People asked which versions of Alien/Aliens to watch, which got us caught in the Cameron Feedback Loop.
I honestly can't imagine Aliens existing without these two scenes. They pretty much make the movie. It's probably why I'm never going to bother with the theatrical cut.
Nappuccino
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Goddamnit! Sculli is screwing with us even when he's not directly posting! ARGH!!!
SCULLIBUNDO
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Empire's May issue cover
i'm totally getting this for the gibson & glover piece.
(i was gonna buy it, anyway.)
VistraNorrez
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In Alien The Company seems to know there is something out on LV-426, but if the original Prometheus mission went there you would think the Company would get back to LV-246 faster than the 30-40 year time difference between the 2 films.
SCULLIBUNDO
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1. They might not know the exact coordinates, since the crew might all die/ship blows up before their last report.
2. We don't know how long it takes to reach LV426.
Nappuccino
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He only made changes that Ridley asked for.
Apparently a large majority of the script is the same from before he started working on it.
The first point is good, the second point is kinda invalidated by the fact that in Prometheus they will be covering the entire discovery of the coordinates and the actual flight to the destination. So it can't take awfully long to get there - maybe a few years at most. Certainly not decades.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Well not certainly. But most likely not decades.
It's certainly not decades, because Scott and Lindelof actually mention the years iirc.
symphonask
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stop toying with my dreams!
Ok, so who was the primary writer? Jon Spaihts? Who the heck is this guy? That doesn't help to alleviate my concerns.
SCULLIBUNDO
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https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/timeline
Didn't Scott say in the Q+A that this takes place in the late 2090's?
symphonask
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He said late 2080s early 2090s.
That sounds like the Earth scenes take place in the late 80s, and the mission takes place in the early 90s to me.
Black Mamba
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Has the Wondercon trailer thing been posted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxrFWh96bNU
it's not the 2:32 one. There's new stuff in this one (i think).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxrFWh96bNU
it's not the 2:32 one. There's new stuff in this one (i think).
tentacle while noomi looking through glass for example
Also, charlize fighting with fassbender
Also, charlize fighting with fassbender
This was posted in its own thread the day before the full trailer hit. We actually have 3 Prometheus trailer threads. Lol.
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