Wow that looks hella creepy
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PROMETHEUS Full Theatrical Trailer (2:32) + International UK trailer (2:47)
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Wow that looks hella creepy
Anton Sugar
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Some shots from the Comic-Con trailer:
And I'm not posting this one because it may be a spoiler. In the trailer, the thing is moving up: http://i.imgur.com/Hd8Ew.jpg
Who is this? http://i.imgur.com/RUSMx.jpg
And I'm not posting this one because it may be a spoiler. In the trailer, the thing is moving up: http://i.imgur.com/Hd8Ew.jpg
Who is this? http://i.imgur.com/RUSMx.jpg
TheKaeptain
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guys GUYS! There are only two Alien films.
Jamesways
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Oh yeah, I forgot this an Avatar and James Cameron is God thread.
Sorry, that noise doesn't make Fern Gully 3D any better.
The English Conquistador
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After that trailer, I'm done looking at pics etc. I know this film will blow people away. And the best apart about a film like this, is the sense of "what the fuck is going on?" that it brings. Continue looking at all this stuff, and that will be highly diminished.
Simo
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D.Lo
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RE: Prometheus being 'In the same universe but not about the Alien'
I wish more franchises did this. A particular example is a direct descendant - Metroid. How good would Metroid have been if they spun it off as a 'Samus Aran' series. It could be Indiana Jones in space, without having to always work one particular alien species into the plot.
Alien itself should have done this from the start. It became 'The adventures of Ellen Ripley' but of course they couldn't have a movie either without her or the creatures after the success of the first, marketing-wise. One of the big failures of Aliens: forcing hero-status on a previously deliberately ordinary (albeit strong female) character.
AVP was shit, but if you remove the predator element and make something that's an 'Aliens hit earth' plot sans-Ripley, you have an awesome base to go from. But demographics/marketing/shithouse director etc.
Prometheus is finally a sequel/prequel that Alien deserves. Even if it fails.
I wish more franchises did this. A particular example is a direct descendant - Metroid. How good would Metroid have been if they spun it off as a 'Samus Aran' series. It could be Indiana Jones in space, without having to always work one particular alien species into the plot.
Alien itself should have done this from the start. It became 'The adventures of Ellen Ripley' but of course they couldn't have a movie either without her or the creatures after the success of the first, marketing-wise. One of the big failures of Aliens: forcing hero-status on a previously deliberately ordinary (albeit strong female) character.
AVP was shit, but if you remove the predator element and make something that's an 'Aliens hit earth' plot sans-Ripley, you have an awesome base to go from. But demographics/marketing/shithouse director etc.
Prometheus is finally a sequel/prequel that Alien deserves. Even if it fails.
I've got Rules of Attraction and American Psycho off the top of my head because I was reading about them recently. I'm sure there are more.
We ended up doing pizza and wandering around Target getting Easter stuff. Still a fun date.
I like the sound, I just feel like it's being over played - in every trailer, in every ad.
Actually, having typed that, it might just be me who is over playing the trailers. I'm probably nearing triple digit viewings between them. :lol
Various Fast and the Furious movies? Maybe Tokyo Drift?
Karma Kramer
Banned
DUDES!
this looks fucking unreal! like the best fucking visuals of any movie since 2001 space odyssey (for its time).
ok maybe that is going too far cause it doesnt blow prior special effects out of the water, but in terms of reaching realism, I don't know how it could look much better.
this looks fucking unreal! like the best fucking visuals of any movie since 2001 space odyssey (for its time).
ok maybe that is going too far cause it doesnt blow prior special effects out of the water, but in terms of reaching realism, I don't know how it could look much better.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
I think I broke my Hype meter. Might have to ignore upcoming trailers to be more impressed by the film.
Harry Potter
Banned
I need this shit inside me right now.
I know the size of Space Jockeys and the scale has been brought up a few times but it's pretty weird. In the trailer you see ol' Monolithic Baldy looming above Noomi Rapace but he looks pretty much human-sized, just fairly muscular:
http://www.abload.de/img/8252229aca9393497f6fefvbtj.png
But if he's supposed to be the Space Jockey, which seems the popular notion, then you've got this:
http://www.abload.de/img/prom-sj181bgs.jpg
Where they seem pretty huge. Not quite pilot-from-Alien huge, it doesn't seem, but still much bigger than a human, and notably bigger than Baldy from that first pic.
Mysteries, yo.
Those pics aren't really spoilery - they're just a couple stills from the trailers - but linking to it just in case.
Also I'm just gonna leave this here; it's a gif so it may be more spoilery:
http://www.abload.de/img/bluemankijyt.gif
Seems like Baldy
Hard to tell.
Anyways, I'm done with the nutty speculating. Blackout for me till the movie comes out :b
http://www.abload.de/img/8252229aca9393497f6fefvbtj.png
But if he's supposed to be the Space Jockey, which seems the popular notion, then you've got this:
http://www.abload.de/img/prom-sj181bgs.jpg
Where they seem pretty huge. Not quite pilot-from-Alien huge, it doesn't seem, but still much bigger than a human, and notably bigger than Baldy from that first pic.
Mysteries, yo.
Those pics aren't really spoilery - they're just a couple stills from the trailers - but linking to it just in case.
Also I'm just gonna leave this here; it's a gif so it may be more spoilery:http://www.abload.de/img/bluemankijyt.gif
Seems like Baldy
grows in size over time?
Anyways, I'm done with the nutty speculating. Blackout for me till the movie comes out :b
That's what I'm guessing.
Seems baldy/jockey is some kind of bio-mechanical creature, that takes over an 'infected' host (in this case, humans). I think we're seeing different phases of that process when we see the worm thing going into that dude's eye; the guy with the dark, infected veins; the dude in the suit on fire leaping down on the crew and tossing them around; the one in your pic standing over Noomi, etc. The huge guy laying on the ground might be the final form.
I have no idea, I've stayed spoiler-free (well, aside from the trailers).
Trailers and this tread for me. I wish i could have resisted the urge to check last 2 trailers and this tread.
The whole plot is pretty much known by now.Yeah could be it, though another thing that's strange is
if the Space Jockey with the elephantine mask is some suit, and that suit is involved with sitting in the pilot chair, then why would there be a need to be in that suit when you're not sitting in the chair?
In that part of the trailer with the Space Jockey sitting in the pilot chair - the one in the bigger pic posted above by Anton Sugar - the suit seems to wrap around him like some harness. So it seems like the suit is more a part of the chair itself, and not just something you wear for whatever.
But then along with the dead, decapitated Space Jockey who is clearly not in the chair, there's also that one pic with Noomi in the foreground and those statue-like Space Jockey suits in the background. So I dunno.
In that part of the trailer with the Space Jockey sitting in the pilot chair - the one in the bigger pic posted above by Anton Sugar - the suit seems to wrap around him like some harness. So it seems like the suit is more a part of the chair itself, and not just something you wear for whatever.
But then along with the dead, decapitated Space Jockey who is clearly not in the chair, there's also that one pic with Noomi in the foreground and those statue-like Space Jockey suits in the background. So I dunno.
So much for not speculating anymore, haha. I can't help myself. It's fun though.
Maybe the
bald guys aren't exactly the space jockeys but some kind of "servant" for them (similar to how we use androids), they could just be there to operate things for the real jockeys, whatever they are.
Memphis Reigns
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I know the size of Space Jockeys and the scale has been brought up a few times but it's pretty weird. In the trailer you see ol' Monolithic Baldy looming above Noomi Rapace but he looks pretty much human-sized, just fairly muscular:
http://www.abload.de/img/8252229aca9393497f6fefvbtj.png
But if he's supposed to be the Space Jockey, which seems the popular notion, then you've got this:
http://www.abload.de/img/prom-sj181bgs.jpg
Where they seem pretty huge. Not quite pilot-from-Alien huge, it doesn't seem, but still much bigger than a human, and notably bigger than Baldy from that first pic.
Mysteries, yo.
Those pics aren't really spoilery - they're just a couple stills from the trailers - but linking to it just in case.
http://www.abload.de/img/bluemankijyt.gif
Seems like BaldyHard to tell.grows in size over time?
Anyways, I'm done with the nutty speculating. Blackout for me till the movie comes out :b
The distinction in size between the various pics and cuts we've seen of the SJ has been the main topic between me and my brother. We too are confused on which one is him. The SJ from Alien is clearly the largest and quite honestly I think that they may be scaled down in Promo. I'm hoping it doesn't lose any impact. Part of what makes the creature so menacing was that it's fucking huge. I hope that is is the decapitated version and not the blue man. Then again they look nothing similar so maybe they aren't the same thing.
Well the difference in size between the SJ in Alien and the one in Prometheus is understandable. Been over 30 years since that movie and they probably just made him smaller to work better logistically. In Alien the Space Jockey was just meant to inspire a sense of awe, not necessarily to work from a mechanical standpoint.
This pic is a very good comparison of the two:
You can see how even the design of the chair has changed quite a bit, but they're probably meant to be the same guy in the same chair. I think we can just chalk up those changes to different sensibilities, different material, etc, plus the chair in Alien was much older and the SJ fossilized.
I was talking more about the differences in supposed Space Jockey size just in Prometheus itself.
Monocle
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Haha, well stated.
Memphis Reigns
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Well the difference in size between the SJ in Alien and the one in Prometheus is understandable. Been over 30 years since that movie and they probably just made him smaller to work better logistically. In Alien the Space Jockey was just meant to inspire a sense of awe, not necessarily to work from a mechanical standpoint.
This pic is a very good comparison of the two:
You can see how even the design of the chair has changed quite a bit, but they're probably meant to be the same guy in the same chair. I think we can just chalk up those changes to different sensibilities, different material, etc, plus the chair in Alien was much older and the SJ fossilized.
I was talking more about the differences in supposed Space Jockey size just in Prometheus itself.
I guess I can see that. It wouldn't be a fair fight if they were as big as they appeared in Alien so that change I can understand. But it gets tricky with the footage we've seen of Prometheus. The few shots of the SJ we're familiar with have size continuity (decapitation shot, chair, and statues all look about the same size). The bluish guy is definitely a bit smaller. But I am assuming they are different creatures, which i'm not sure if you are assuming that as well. There seems to be some discrepancies with the size of the blue guy. He looks a tad about average standing over shaw, but while standing in the chamber with the rising chair, he looks much bigger.
And if thats him walking behind the command console with the hologram then that's huge; the crew member looks tiny standing on top of it.
Yeah, that's the odd part. That's why I was saying that maybe he is the SJ but just that the
infection makes him grow over time in phases
chicko1983
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I'm thinking the SJ is actually a creature to be released by the bald guy.
so there's
Humans
Bald guy (being of the superior alien race)
Space jockey - guard dog of the alien (hence why the alien is releasing him to attack the humans)
Mutated human - shaws boyfriend after he gets infected
so there's
Humans
Bald guy (being of the superior alien race)
Space jockey - guard dog of the alien (hence why the alien is releasing him to attack the humans)
Mutated human - shaws boyfriend after he gets infected
PrivateWHudson
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Isn't that sense of awe the what makes/made the Space Jockey Awe- wait for it -some? Why bother bringing them into it if your going to leave out the awesome? We'll see, but my hype meter is staying throttled. That and the potential PG-13.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Sorry if this has been answered to death in this thread already, but is this trailer being shown in front of anything in the theaters? I NEED to see it on the big screen. I was disappointed that The Hunger Games didn't show it
Next biggish Fox release (+3D release like Prometheus) is Titanic 3D. I need to see this fucking trailer in 3D.
3D is just a fad. People are already starting to get sick of it!
SCULLIBUNDO
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Lulz! Avatar trying to release mainly in 3D? Suicide. Bomba written all over this thing. Cameron has too much faith in himself.
Cameron is already repenting for his sins by diving into the abyss!
SCULLIBUNDO
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When Cameron dives into the abyss, the abyss also dives into Cameron.
- Arnold Schwarzenegger.
VistraNorrez
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I don't think they're supposed to be the same Space Jockey, but if they are, then I suspect the Prometheus one isn't fully grown into the chair yet. I'm thinking the chair makes them bigger. It could be an exoskeleton or it could even torture them. Another possibility is that a human decided to sit in the chair. There's no reason for Scott and crew to miss that or change it. They have CG and a far bigger budget, they can make anything happen.
And the only reason we keep saying fossilize is because Dallas said so and Ash didn't correct him. They could be wrong. But we know that the appearance of the Space Jockey (suit) is how it always looks. These are not just bones, and fossilization does not work on skin (we also don't know how bio-mechanical organisms fossilize). There's also the possibility that the ship has some sort of self-preservation process that looks like fossilization.
We should also compare the rooms of the Space Jockey. They look pretty different in Alien and Prometheus. I wouldn't be surprised if the Prometheus Derelict and the Alien Derelict are different ships. They keep saying that this isn't a direct prequel and any sequel to Prometheus would veer even further away from the Alien franchise (could just be throwing us off the trail of course).
Whatever it is, I'm damned excited to find out.
And the only reason we keep saying fossilize is because Dallas said so and Ash didn't correct him. They could be wrong. But we know that the appearance of the Space Jockey (suit) is how it always looks. These are not just bones, and fossilization does not work on skin (we also don't know how bio-mechanical organisms fossilize). There's also the possibility that the ship has some sort of self-preservation process that looks like fossilization.
We should also compare the rooms of the Space Jockey. They look pretty different in Alien and Prometheus. I wouldn't be surprised if the Prometheus Derelict and the Alien Derelict are different ships. They keep saying that this isn't a direct prequel and any sequel to Prometheus would veer even further away from the Alien franchise (could just be throwing us off the trail of course).
Whatever it is, I'm damned excited to find out.
Kai Dracon
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Besides the difference in size between OG and new school space jockey there's also the point that the OG SJ is much more organic and freeform disturbing - more like Giger's disproportionate artwork. Just check out the OG version's disproportionate arm lengths and torso sections compared to the new guy in the chair.
I suppose if this is really a parallel "reboot" then all this is just a part of that. Scott is starting over and reusing some of his original characters, creatures, and settings but telling a new story that will end up going to new places. Some of the details have just been modified along the way, since absolute continuity with Alien is irrelevant.
In a sense the OG jockey would inspire more of a sense of awe and horror (based on what we have seen so far mind you) both due to his size and his more purely Gigeresque physicality.
I suppose if this is really a parallel "reboot" then all this is just a part of that. Scott is starting over and reusing some of his original characters, creatures, and settings but telling a new story that will end up going to new places. Some of the details have just been modified along the way, since absolute continuity with Alien is irrelevant.
In a sense the OG jockey would inspire more of a sense of awe and horror (based on what we have seen so far mind you) both due to his size and his more purely Gigeresque physicality.
Dammit, I'm not seeing Titanic in theaters again....
SCULLIBUNDO
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SCULLIBUNDO
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There is one. He's waiting on the weather at the surface. Recently sent it down and back up unmanned successfully.
I think if the bald dudes are biomechanical beings that take control of the host (living beings that explore or inhabit the planet), then they're probably not really the original creature but just something the jockeys created before they go "extinct", then the Fossilized jockeys from alien could still be true, if they go with that idea, then they won't have to touch the xenomorphs concept and linking into the first alien film, and they could play around with the concept of jockeys that's near the end of their life cycle (before they go extinct), and they probably have evolved into something a little bit different than the ones in the ship in alien, or more technological advanced.
Also they could work backwards that way, the eggs in alien (assuming they were testing that shit) could then be an older version of what we have in prometheus, instead of thinking the eggs were an improved version from the jars, because the jockeys were probably testing the egg shit and ditched that concept and made them into something more safe for themselves, and the finalized version is probably in prometheus.
That way they can have more freedom with the designs since they are jockeys from a different time, the suit, the ship, and the alien eggs/jars could've improved since the one in alien is a noob jockey.
Also they could work backwards that way, the eggs in alien (assuming they were testing that shit) could then be an older version of what we have in prometheus, instead of thinking the eggs were an improved version from the jars, because the jockeys were probably testing the egg shit and ditched that concept and made them into something more safe for themselves, and the finalized version is probably in prometheus.
That way they can have more freedom with the designs since they are jockeys from a different time, the suit, the ship, and the alien eggs/jars could've improved since the one in alien is a noob jockey.
foxdvd
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It's okay. Just try to remember anything. Anything at all.
LOL
Cameron twitter: 12:45 pm - "sitting on the toilet"
Cameron twitter: 13:12 pm - "eating ham sandwich"
Cameron twitter: 13:18 pm - "sitting on the toilet again, bad ham sandwich, gives me new idea for a movie!"
Is there a reason why he isn't doing this live like all the cool kids do with this kind of shit? Why isn't there more media attention and live coverage of THE EVENT?
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