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PS Vita - Now vs. 1 year ago - Has Sony turned it around?
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They should have multiple internal studios at Japan making games for it, specially RPGs. Sony didn't learn anything from the PSP. Killzone, Tearaway and a bunch of multiplatform indies are not going to save the Vita. Japanese games could.
opticalmace
Member
I don't think they really have, but it might benefit from the whole remote play thing. Who knows.
It's much worse than last year. There were a ton of interesting games to play last year (whether they ended up being good or not is another story) but there hasn't been anything until Killzone this year, 9 months into the year.
Becoming an indie port machine is a pretty embarrassing fate to be honest. There's no motivation to play these games on there instead of PC or PS3.
Becoming an indie port machine is a pretty embarrassing fate to be honest. There's no motivation to play these games on there instead of PC or PS3.
TheRedSnifit
Member
Because I want to drop $200 to play games that a five year old laptop could play.
The Vita is much, much worse off.
The Vita is much, much worse off.
Coffee Dog
Banned
They didn't give up on it, and that's what I was hoping for. It'll be a niche little device for ports, indies, and small japanese games, and I am perfectly fine with that.
bigmit3737
Member
I'm baffled too with Killzone and teraway- the most important market is Japan and those games don't appeal to Japan.
GhostTrick
Banned
It seems that Sony is more willing to transform Vita into an accessory for PS4.
JacksUsername
Member
It had a really rough drought through the first half of the year, with only a couple of great offerings (Guacamelee!), but recently with Dragon's Crown, Killlzone, and the indie offerings, it's turning into a solid platform.
The major problem is that there's still is no killer app for the masses, and Sony hasn't been providing many reasons to have faith for future titles. It seems like it's mostly ignored at trade shows, and the focus seems to be switching from a dedicated handheld gaming system to a companion device to the consoles, which I don't really have much interest in.
The major problem is that there's still is no killer app for the masses, and Sony hasn't been providing many reasons to have faith for future titles. It seems like it's mostly ignored at trade shows, and the focus seems to be switching from a dedicated handheld gaming system to a companion device to the consoles, which I don't really have much interest in.
There is nothing in its future that interests me in the slightest, and the sales are still atrocious. I'm gonna go with no for this one.
Are they treating Sony specific people very well? Yeah. PS4 + Vita seems very good, but I still don't believe that to be an actual market as it's too expensive.
Are they treating Sony specific people very well? Yeah. PS4 + Vita seems very good, but I still don't believe that to be an actual market as it's too expensive.
highrider
Banned
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Also surprised to see so many dismissive of remote play. Pretty compelling to me.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
No, it still lacks games that the mass market would want. It lacks a Monster Hunter for one (And no Frontier is an MMO that no one plays), so no. Vita is still a lacking handheld that the only reason you could have one is to stream PS3/4 games when the service is available.
As a piece of tech is great, as a handheld device dedicated to gaming, is lack luster at best. I would want to sell my Vita, but no one in here cares about handheld gaming and all the games that are out for it are either direct ports or poorly crafted "new" games from assets of PS3 games.
As a piece of tech is great, as a handheld device dedicated to gaming, is lack luster at best. I would want to sell my Vita, but no one in here cares about handheld gaming and all the games that are out for it are either direct ports or poorly crafted "new" games from assets of PS3 games.
lordchompy
Member
There is no question that Vita has lost the race. With certain sites reporting 3DS to be outselling Vita 5:1 it isn't a matter of Vita winning the race, it's a matter of whether it finishes at all at this point.
I think with the help of Vita TV, it just might last for a few years longer, and might yet receive some strong third-party support. But Vita primarily as a portable device as of now has no chance of becoming a resounding success, and I'm guessing Sony doesn't expect it to.
Megadragon15
Member
The Vita is the definition of the wrong product at the wrong time. (History is laced with these products like the Wii U.)
InsaneZero
Member
If your definition of "turning it around" includes transitioning a major handheld product line into a niche console accessory, then sure.
Media Create has figures that go from 7:1 to 10:1 on 3DS vs Vita for the past few weeks.
It's still to early to say that.
Well, it kinda does I think... it's not that Sony is doing everything it can to get some awesome games on it.
But you're right, the Vita has potential.
lordchompy
Member
I was referring to global numbers, but that the console is struggling where handheld gaming is most important just further illustrates Sony's dire straits in its home region.
In terms of its direct success, no. That much is still up in the air.
But they sure as heck have made it a more appealing platform to anyone looking for a gadgety handheld. Its growing indie library and cross-buy games have been punctuated by a few new and upcoming retail games that have really helped it get attention. The recently announced games like Gravity Rush 2, a new Phantasy Star and Gods Eater 2 have my ear to the ground. This is a system that I recommend to people regularly, and that's easier with the way they're giving resources to developing how the PS4 will pair with it.
But they sure as heck have made it a more appealing platform to anyone looking for a gadgety handheld. Its growing indie library and cross-buy games have been punctuated by a few new and upcoming retail games that have really helped it get attention. The recently announced games like Gravity Rush 2, a new Phantasy Star and Gods Eater 2 have my ear to the ground. This is a system that I recommend to people regularly, and that's easier with the way they're giving resources to developing how the PS4 will pair with it.
The next few months will give a clearer answer to this. If the release of the 2000 and Vita TV, along with all of the software releases coming out from now until the end of December in Japan (and there are quite a lot) don't increase sales significantly, then the answer will be no. If they do, the answer will be yes.
Right now, sales aren't much different from this time last year. The software catalog, available and announced, however, is far better than a year ago.
Right now, sales aren't much different from this time last year. The software catalog, available and announced, however, is far better than a year ago.
The Vita is definitely in a worse position now than it was a year ago. The 3DS Has finally entered its stride, delivering the first half of its Pocket Monster Hunter 1-2 punch, killing any hopes the Vita had on gaining mainstream traction. Nintendo is also making more of an effort to appeal to indies, which would kill the Vita's USP if developers value the 3DS' larger install base to the Vita's more impressive hardware.
kobashi100
Banned
dude the race was over a long time ago.. Unless you have been living in a cave for the last 12 months you should know and accept that.
velociraptor
Junior Member
I hadn't played a Vita until today.
Screenshots of Vita games tend to look awful in every conceivable way.
Had a go at Uncharted Golden Abyss and Killzone Mercenary. Needless to say, I was blown away.
The IQ was far better than I had originally anticipated. Controls work fairly well although it's a shame that the analog sticks are not clickable.
Screenshots of Vita games tend to look awful in every conceivable way.
Had a go at Uncharted Golden Abyss and Killzone Mercenary. Needless to say, I was blown away.
The IQ was far better than I had originally anticipated. Controls work fairly well although it's a shame that the analog sticks are not clickable.
There's an extreme lack of drive from Sony actually supporting the thing. There's 1 Sony release left in the year and a disappointing amount of titles announced at TGS. Nintendo is actually releasing a lot of titles for Wii U this year which is doing worse than the Vita, showing they actually care to salvage it, in addition to releasing games for the 3DS.
They seem content to relegate it to a streaming device for the PS4, rather than making it its own product worth owning for the games exclusive to it, like the 3DS. It comes down to games, games, and games. Most people will not buy a Vita for the ability to play PS4 games anywhere in their house instead of just playing it on the TV. I also don't see why they'd buy a Vita TV for it either.
They seem content to relegate it to a streaming device for the PS4, rather than making it its own product worth owning for the games exclusive to it, like the 3DS. It comes down to games, games, and games. Most people will not buy a Vita for the ability to play PS4 games anywhere in their house instead of just playing it on the TV. I also don't see why they'd buy a Vita TV for it either.
Handheld gaming doesnt do it for people anymore. None of my friends really care about it, those that do only play it in their houses.
On the other hand almost everyone i know who knows about remote play is really really hyped for it. Its just something about being able to play PS4 games on a handheld that is getting a lot of people exited more than Gravity Rush 2 or even Monster Hunter would.
Considering I've put more hours into my Vita over the last year than my PS3, I'm in love with this device. It's been rough though, I've been having to trudge my way through the backlog but, I think the lack of games thing is just equal to, lack of games coming out all the time. Because honestly, the only thing holding me back is that it have to constantly delete things from my Vita to make room for other things.
I don't get the whole indie pushback either. Just because you can play these games on your computer, doesn't mean it's not better playing them on the Vita. You'd have to try really hard to convince me that playing Spelunky or Guacamelle on the keyboard is better than playing it on the Vita. A game is a game is a game. And right now that's what I'm playing on my Vita.
A year ago I would have a hard time selling a Vita to a friend. But now, with Remote Play and Cross Buy, it's really just a matter if time.
I don't get the whole indie pushback either. Just because you can play these games on your computer, doesn't mean it's not better playing them on the Vita. You'd have to try really hard to convince me that playing Spelunky or Guacamelle on the keyboard is better than playing it on the Vita. A game is a game is a game. And right now that's what I'm playing on my Vita.
A year ago I would have a hard time selling a Vita to a friend. But now, with Remote Play and Cross Buy, it's really just a matter if time.
timetokill
Banned
It has some hope as a PS4 accessory I guess.
I guess that's better than a year ago when it had no hope at all.
I guess that's better than a year ago when it had no hope at all.
yeah whatever
How exactly is it in a worse position? If anything the Vita is gonna going to strive in the upcoming months.
So the Wii U is dead?
Isnt that the general feeling about it?
No race is over in 1 year. The Wii had complete domination in the early years, but PS3 and Xbox 360 did great in the later years. Vita is by no means out of it just because of one year.
JonathanPower
Member
Yes, SD card support or at least providing a model with 64GB of embedded memory.
nhlducks35
Member
I don't want to be pessimistic but I don't think PS4 streaming will set Vita on fire. I'm not sure if you have noticed, but people tend to not care a lot about devices that let you play console games on a "handheld" device that needs to never leave home, Nintendo is quite aware of this 
damn there are some shortsided people in here. There is no chance for it to surpass the 3DS for obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean its doomed to failure. If, IF, remote play works as advertised, it will sell systems. Considering the amount of PS4s that will seemingly be sold in the next year, there will be a lot higher demand for the Vita if the remote play feature works. More Vitas in the wild = larger customer base and a higher interest for publishers to make games for it.
And thats not even considering Minecraft.
And thats not even considering Minecraft.
So you're not joking?
Pretty much. Do consider the big games are yet to come, so it might sell a little more.
No. It's even worse. Sorry.
RIP VITA. We loved thee so.
Remote play won't really sell anyone. The barrier to entry is insane and the appeal is that you have people wanting to play fully fledged console games on the go (really at hotels or whatever). This strategy has failed Sony two times already.
Vita is awesome. By far the most comfortable and impressive and awesomeo device on the market for playing games. But it bomba.
Let it go. Become Cloud letting Aeris drift into the lake. It is time.
That said, Vita TV is really neat. I still don't think it will do shizz.
RIP VITA. We loved thee so.
Remote play won't really sell anyone. The barrier to entry is insane and the appeal is that you have people wanting to play fully fledged console games on the go (really at hotels or whatever). This strategy has failed Sony two times already.
Vita is awesome. By far the most comfortable and impressive and awesomeo device on the market for playing games. But it bomba.
Let it go. Become Cloud letting Aeris drift into the lake. It is time.
That said, Vita TV is really neat. I still don't think it will do shizz.
kobashi100
Banned
So 3DS will have a total lack of releases why Vita gets a shit load of system selling titles..
Seriously, time to wake up and come back to planet earth. Its not gonna happen!
people are not gonna pay that much $$$ for a PS4 accessory.
famousmortimer
Banned
It hasn't turned anything around. It has been and continues to be an amazing device for enthusiasts though.
If you base the value of the vita on how many units it sells versus the 3ds - you're fucking weird - but you're also not going to like the results. If you base the value of it on your experience with it - you're likely to end up happy. Unless, of course, you hate Sony first party games and indie games. But if you hate those things the vita was never, ever going to be for you.
If you base the value of the vita on how many units it sells versus the 3ds - you're fucking weird - but you're also not going to like the results. If you base the value of it on your experience with it - you're likely to end up happy. Unless, of course, you hate Sony first party games and indie games. But if you hate those things the vita was never, ever going to be for you.
Four_Chamber
Member
Hell no. It's still an irrelevant gaming platform (at least in the US).
I still don't see how remote play will appeal to anything beyond the hardcore few who have already purchased the Vita.
I still don't see how remote play will appeal to anything beyond the hardcore few who have already purchased the Vita.
Cha
Member
I don't want to be pessimistic but I don't think PS4 streaming will set Vita on fire. I'm not sure if you have noticed, but people tend to not care a lot about devices that let you play console games on a "handheld" device that needs to never leave home, Nintendo is quite aware of this
Not to say that you're not on point, but you can remote play to a vita outside your home through the internet. Wouldn't be anywhere near as lag free as local remote play (I'd imagine), but still, it can be done.
On topic - Nope. They haven't turned it around, but they are certainly moving in the right direction in my opinion.