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oo Kosma oo said:
Also it makes no sense, where did these rumors come from?

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Graphics Horse said:
Do BR only drives even exist?
I think that some early BD-R burners didn't support CD/DVD but in any case Sony make their own BD drives for the PS3 so they can make a BR only drive if they want (it wouldn't be that much cheaper that the one that they use now in any case).
 
deathkiller said:
I think that some early BD-R burners didn't support CD/DVD but in any case Sony make their own BD drives for the PS3 so they can make a BR only drive if they want (it wouldn't be that much cheaper that the one that they use now in any case).
The DVD license costs money (maybe free for Sony however), you can have a machine that could technically play DVDs but not have the license, like the Wii. Not sure about CD but I think the whole idea makes no sense considering PS2/PS1 games NEED that red laser to work.
 
kay said:
The DVD license costs money (maybe free for Sony however), you can have a machine that could technically play DVDs but not have the license, like the Wii. Not sure about CD but I think the whole idea makes no sense considering PS2/PS1 games NEED that red laser to work.
Of course, I was responding to the affirmation that dropping PS1 BC (software only) would not make the PS3's hardware cheaper so I answered that it would if they dropped also the CD/DVD support.
 
Dvd license is like 5$ or something. And as Sony is responsible for their own software emu I don't see how it costs them money. I haven't seen any proof that the BC in Europe isn't entirely software too btw.
 
I don't want features taken out just so I can afford a Ps3. I want what the early adopters got (or better) at an affordable price. I'll buy a Ps3 at $399, but I won't sacrifice wifi, ports, backwards compatibility or anything else to get it.
 
VanMardigan said:
I don't want features taken out just so I can afford a Ps3. I want what the early adopters got (or better) at an affordable price. I'll buy a Ps3 at $399, but I won't sacrifice wifi, ports, backwards compatibility or anything else to get it.
You will have to sacrifice your soul to get one.
 
VanMardigan said:
I don't want features taken out just so I can afford a Ps3. I want what the early adopters got (or better) at an affordable price. I'll buy a Ps3 at $399, but I won't sacrifice wifi, ports, backwards compatibility or anything else to get it.

The problem is that it was initially that people bitched about the PS3's high price due to the fact that Sony included a lot of things which were unnecessary to them. I mean, people were perfectly fine with the premium 360 which didn't include wifi (same with the elite) and shoddy BC anyways.

Basically you get for what you pay for in terms of hardware features.
 
VanMardigan said:
I don't want features taken out just so I can afford a Ps3. I want what the early adopters got (or better) at an affordable price. I'll buy a Ps3 at $399, but I won't sacrifice wifi, ports, backwards compatibility or anything else to get it.

I'd be willing to part with hardware-based BC (and will probably have to), and maybe some ports, but I want my WiFi dammit. Time to bite the pillow Sony give us a fully-functional and affordable PS3.
 
Tf53 said:
Bubububu... one per cent... bububu... :D

I just hope the official distributor wasn't bullshitting us.
I think you are screwed either way unless you expand upon no BC. PS1 will always be there.
 
oo Kosma oo said:
I haven't seen any proof that the BC in Europe isn't entirely software too btw.
I have seen the EU motherboard. The GS is still there. I honestly doubt anything close to 100% PS2 emulation will be possible in-software only on PS3. RSX doesn't have enough bandwidth to 100% emulate the EDRAM part of GS.
 
VanMardigan said:
I don't want features taken out just so I can afford a Ps3. I want what the early adopters got (or better) at an affordable price. I'll buy a Ps3 at $399, but I won't sacrifice wifi, ports, backwards compatibility or anything else to get it.

I want a Mercedes SLK for 20k too, but that doesn't mean anyone is going to sell one to me at that price. If you can't/won't afford the PS3, just stay away from it. The 360 has most of what the PS3 offers at the price point you mentioned...just no bluray, wifi, BC, Bluetooth.
 
Marconelly said:
I have seen the EU motherboard. The GS is still there. I honestly doubt anything close to 100% PS2 emulation will be possible in-software only on PS3. RSX doesn't have enough bandwidth to 100% emulate the EDRAM part of GS.

Yeah, that's right. The GS is heavily bound to RSX on the EU motherboard, though, with tons of traces connecting the two. I was hoping that Sony would suck the GS into their next revision of RSX and reduce their component count that way, but if these rumors are true, I guess not.
 
jonabbey said:
Yeah, that's right. The GS is heavily bound to RSX on the EU motherboard, though, with tons of traces connecting the two.
Yeah, I remember thinking how funny it looked - for someone uneducated, it would be easy to mistake GS for the most important chip on the board - it seemed like everything is connected to it with thousands of traces.
 
maybe it comes with two USB ports and no card readers...the card readers really aren't necessary anyway.

I'd like to upgrade my 20 gig to one with WiFi, I wonder how much that will end up costing me.
 
I don't care about the 40 gig PS3, all I care about is that they hit the $300 price point.

On the other hand, a $400 PS3 is one step closer to the price I am willing to pay for it.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
I don't care about the 40 gig PS3, all I care about is that they hit the $300 price point.

On the other hand, a $400 PS3 is one step closer to the price I am willing to pay for it.

Why must you repeat this in every damn PS3 thread? It won't be $300 for a long time...
 
Avalon said:
Why must you repeat this in every damn PS3 thread? It won't be $300 for a long time...

I repeat it in every damn thread because any thread that deals with potential new models with price reductions will ultimately affect my purchase of the console.
 
bishoptl said:
too late! ahahahahahahaaa

Oh, that is harsh, harsh I tells you.

Don't hurt me

Tf53 said:
Tf53
40G PAL PS3 w/no BC by Xmas 2007 or my account's toast
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Wollan said:
Look at that.

Well, I hope you enjoyed your tenure here, Tf53, for it will soon come to an end I think :(
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
I don't care about the 40 gig PS3, all I care about is that they hit the $300 price point.

On the other hand, a $400 PS3 is one step closer to the price I am willing to pay for it.
Come back in 2009 peasant.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
I don't care about the 40 gig PS3, all I care about is that they hit the $300 price point.

On the other hand, a $400 PS3 is one step closer to the price I am willing to pay for it.


I agree. I yearn for the $400 (and $300) price point less because I'm "cheap" and more because I want to make sure I'm buying a system that's competitive.
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
I agree. I yearn for the $400 (and $300) price point less because I'm "cheap" and more because I want to make sure I'm buying a system that's competitive.

With a Sony Card application, the PS3 is $350 at sonystyle.com. Cancel the card when you get the system.
 
tanod said:
With a Sony Card application, the PS3 is $350 at sonystyle.com. Cancel the card when you get the system.

Tried that. Insufficient Credit History.

Of all my financial decisions, not building credit has been my biggest problem. I've never had debt, and now it's costing me.

I've recently acquired to low-balance, high interest CCs to hopefully resolve this issue over the next several months. :lol
 
Can you use the sony style credit card anywhere like amazon and still get the 100$ off?Sonystyle doesn't have the 60GB, just wondering.
 
My connection is fubar at work ... so I can't really look through this thread. That said, I'll take a shot at some of the things I expect to be in here.



1) 40GB HDD - In an of itself, seems unlikely as a major price reduction. Exactly who is making them in quantity at this point? A 40GB HDD is unlikely to save Sony money right now (or at least very little), and will likely cost more than an 80GB very soon.

2) USB - You can't remove them, since they charge the controllers. Beyond that, the cost savings are insignificant.

3) BC - The GS could be removed to save money (and PS1 compatibility would remain). Again, how much does it gain them though? It could be enough to be worth it for an overall price reduction. By itself however, I don't see it being enough to create a viable 2nd SKU that actually is of significant savings.

4) DVD/CD compatibility - While CD could be removed, DVD cannot if Sony wishes to continue advertising PS3 as being BD compatible. DVD support is part of the BD spec, so Sony would have to remove all mention of BD on the SKU ... including listing it as BD compatible.
 
Onix said:
My connection is fubar at work ... so I can't really look through this thread. That said, I'll take a shot at some of the things I expect to be in here.



1) 40GB HDD - In an of itself, seems unlikely as a major price reduction. Exactly who is making them in quantity at this point? A 40GB HDD is unlikely to save Sony money right now (or at least very little), and will likely cost more than an 80GB very soon.

The only reason why they would lower the hard drive size is basically a visceral designation that it is a lesser equipped PS3.
 
gcubed said:
The only reason why they would lower the hard drive size is basically a visceral designation that it is a lesser equipped PS3.

Ditto with reducing the number of USB ports.

It wouldn't be about reducing cost per se, but maintaining the value proposition of higher priced, and lower loss SKUs, one of which (80GB) will continue to sell alongside it, and which needs to have sufficient attractive differentiators.

What might enable them to offer a lower priced SKU, more than USB ports or smallers HDDs, is maybe something like 65nm Cell, along with smaller savings elsewhere that add up.
 
I don't believe this. This is the same rumor we have heard before. If Sony was going to bring out a $400 system this year then they would have announced it at the TGS. Also, They just dropped the system from $600 to $500 3 months ago. Lets use logic here people ,another price drop this year is not going to happen. If they dropped the price again it would look like Sony has no faith in thier product.
 
tanod said:
With a Sony Card application, the PS3 is $350 at sonystyle.com. Cancel the card when you get the system.

Please don't do this. Once you've applied for the card, leaving it open can only help your score. Closing it means that you get the initial credit point loss for your application AND the possibility of additional point loss when your credit ratio goes from (currentdebt/currentcredit) to (currentdebt/(currentcredit-sonycardlimit)).

As a general rule, additional open cards only help your score. Use the Sony card once a year on a pack of gum, pay it off, and then put it back in your sock drawer until next year.
 
The Faceless Master said:
the perceived value thing sounds like the only good reason.

it would be a pure marketshare move.

God, how I've longed for a 'pure marketshare move'!

C'monnnnn, Sony, you'll be poppularrrrrr!!!
 
Kasumi1970 said:
I don't believe this. This is the same rumor we have heard before. If Sony was going to bring out a $400 system this year then they would have announced it at the TGS. Also, They just dropped the system from $600 to $500 3 months ago. Lets use logic here people ,another price drop this year is not going to happen. If they dropped the price again it would look like Sony has no faith in thier product.
Hasn't Sony basically already conceded that it doesn't have faith in the PS3 selling at it's current price point? I think it's beyond obvious now that price is at the foremost of Sony's mind and they do need to work on how to lower the price and they need to do it soon or they will get absolutely blitzed this holiday season.

Hell, they are going to have the worst lineup and the most expensive console on the market. Not exactly enticing for people to run and buy.
 
Ryck said:
I didn't want to start my own thread...

My friend bought a 60 gig last week does his system have the EE?

NTSC? Yes, PAL? Not a chance.
 
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