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PS3 firmware 3.56 is here. What does it do?

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Metalmurphy said:
Fixed it for you. Just like now, we are suffering for the "greater good" of a few, I'm hoping that soon, the few of you suffer for our greater good.

your 'greater good' = reduced functionality and removed features?
 
LovingSteam said:
And that response wasn't to you, was it.

First word in the tag really suits you.

Lyphen said:
I'd love to see a few GAME OVERs next month.

I doubt it but man I hope that Directv victory gives other companies ways to fight the hackers. That would be awesome.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
'greater good' = reduced functionality and removed features?

greater good = no piracy, no hacks, no pointless updates, etc

If 10% of PS3 owners have to go without homebrew, well I can live with that. Just like right now those 10% are living with the fact that 90% of ps3 owners will have their experienced worsened, and that games can now be easily pirated on PS3.
 
Being forced to download an update that prevents you from getting online until its completed ....then having it sit at 0% after downloading for 5 minutes is pretty much the definition of shitty.

Oh yay it just got to 1%, this update must be bigger than the DC Universe patches...
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
your 'greater good' = reduced functionality and removed features?

A PS3 slim wasn't manufactured with PS2 BC in mind.... If they took that feature away from the fatties, then you'd have a point. And didn't Sony have an issue with security as a reason to remove otherOS besides cost cutting? (I've used this in another thread but...) Oh the irony.
 
MoonsaultSlayer said:
A PS3 slim wasn't manufactured with PS2 BC in mind.... If they took that feature away from the fatties, then you'd have a point.
Then he has a point. It wasn't taken away from existing users who had it, but it was removed from some 'fatties'.
 
The DirectTV hack would have been even more epic if the final update was sent right at the start of the Super Bowl instead of a week before. Oh well, still awesome.
 
Heshinsi said:
Sony needs those engineers ASAP. lol

DTV was shutting the cards down somehow. So far sony hasn't done something to shutdown CFW from going on PSN other than needing the update. Maybe make it so their CFWs that allow playing PS3 games off the HDDs to not work?
 
StuBurns said:
Then he has a point.
He kinda doesn't. No PS3 with BC sold has had their BC removed. If you bought one without it then you can't really expect it to have it. You get what you paid for.

OtherOS however...
 
Are people really complaining about 15 minute updates? I just installed an xbox update I dont even know what it's for but I was like okay, and did it without complaining. Gosh.
 
Mikey Jr. said:
4 pages for a minor security patch.

The fuck is wrong with you people?


Are you blind or did you just not read my post.

Great attitude by the way, with the whole bitching about bitching.

Cruceh said:
Are people really complaining about 15 minute updates? I just installed an xbox update I dont even know what it's for but I was like okay, and did it without complaining. Gosh.

Yea why are people complaining, I had ice cream today and it was great.

I hope you are kidding btw.

Hopefully I'll get to play some Dead Space 2 online before I have to go to work tomorrow :(.
 
Metalmurphy said:
He kinda doesn't. No PS3 with BC sold has had their BC removed. If you bought one without it then you can't really expect it to have it. You get what you paid for.

OtherOS however...
Doesn't the user agreement include that Sony can changes features of the system?
 
Lince said:
I'm starting to hate the term "homebrew", fucking ridiculous excuses for piracy when everything you're supposedly trying to do (emulators mainly) with your CFW PS3 you can already do with a 10 years old PC.
I own handhelds like the GP2X, Dingoo and Pandora because they're homebrew based. I donate money to indie and homebrew devs. I contribute to the various homebrew scenes however I can, because collaboration is fun. I run XBMC on my original Xbox, and look forward to the same on my PS3.

I wonder, is accusing homebrewers of being pirates bannable across the board, or just the dedicated homebrew threads?
 
Wario64 said:
Sunshine has BD playback problems IIRC. He didn't mean the quality of the movie

Yes, but it's already been mentioned in this thread. And it's not Sony's fault, it's Fox's. They're doing a free replacement program because of it.
 
StuBurns said:
Doesn't the user agreement include that Sony can changes features of the system?
Not sure about the US, but that shit doesn't really fly under EU laws.

I mean they can, but anyone would be allowed to return it for a full refund if they make enough noise.
 
Metalmurphy said:
greater good = no piracy, no hacks.

If 10% of PS3 owners have to go without homebrew, well I can live with that. Just like right now those 10% are living with the fact that 90% of ps3 owners will have their experienced worsened.

Please direct me to examples of this. (*patiently awaits videos of the already broken MW2*)

The only thing I can deduce when you say experience worsened is "crying in a corner because their PS3s can do things mine can't".


MoonsaultSlayer said:
A PS3 slim wasn't manufactured with PS2 BC in mind.... If they took that feature away from the fatties, then you'd have a point. And didn't Sony have an issue with security as a reason to remove otherOS besides cost cutting? (I've used this in another thread but...) Oh the irony.

They took away OtherOS from fat PS3s too - that right there is a big reason to want it back. Of course, opponents of CFW will say: "well just don't update and you can still use that feature" - but then you can't use PSN anyway or play the newest games, effectively gimping other aspects of your console. It's like the other mantra opponents of CFW like to say: "you can't have your cake and eat it too".
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
Please direct me to examples of this. (*patiently awaits videos of the already broken MW2*)
That's one thing. This update right here is another. GT5 has been hacked as well. Shit will only get worst. Also read my edit.

I NEED SCISSORS said:
The only thing I can deduce when you say experience worsened is "crying in a corner because their PS3s can do things mine can't".
Hey look, another one! Ain't you smart.
 
LovingSteam said:
AHAHAHAHAHA thanks for the laugh.

what kind of reply is that? now we're laughing at other forum members' opinions? I guess the only clown here is you, "douchebag prophet".
 
Metalmurphy said:
Not sure about the US, but that shit doesn't really fly under EU laws.

I mean they can, but anyone would be allowed to return it for a full refund if they make enough noise.
That's fair enough, but in the motif of 'you get what you pay for', you pay for a system that Sony can alter after your purchase.

I think it's disgusting that it's possible to buy a system and have Sony take something that got you to buy it, but if you can get a refund, that's all I think you're entitled to.


EDIT: Regarding piracy, the only thing I did, and intended to do was install a SNES emulator because I wanted to play on my big TV with my DS3. Yes, I could get a emulator for PC, hook the computer up to the TV, hook the controller up to the PC, but that's a lot harder.
 
Lince said:
what kind of reply is that? now we're laughing at other forum members' opinions? I guess the only clown here is you, "douchebag prophet".

I mean, it was pretty funny how extreme your comment sounded. 'Homebrew' didn't kill your family.
 
Lince said:
what kind of reply is that? now we're laughing at other forum members' opinions? I guess the only clown here is you, "douchebag prophet".

I'm starting to hate the term "homebrew", fucking ridiculous excuses for piracy when everything you're supposedly trying to do (emulators mainly) with your CFW PS3 you can already do with a 10 years old PC.

Except that is a dumbass opinion that is potentially bannable on this forum. You are equating homebrew with piracy as if they are one and the same. Some opinions deserve to be laughed out of the building.
 
StuBurns said:
Doesn't the user agreement include that Sony can changes features of the system?

You gave them permission to if you're talking about otheros. There was a lot of warnings in the text saying that "installing this firmware will remove OtherOS, Are you sure?"
 
Ploid 3.0 said:
You gave them permission to if you're talking about otheros. There was a lot of warnings in the text saying that "installing this firmware will remove OtherOS, Are you sure?"


but if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to use PSN
 
Sew said:
I own handhelds like the GP2X, Dingoo and Pandora because they're homebrew based. I donate money to indie and homebrew devs. I contribute to the various homebrew scenes however I can, because collaboration is fun. I run XBMC on my original Xbox, and look forward to the same on my PS3.

I wonder, is accusing homebrewers of being pirates bannable across the board, or just the dedicated homebrew threads?

Homebrew gets a bad name in the console side because of what it brings with it. Light is rarely shined on the good it seems, from what I can tell. Piracy aspect is a threat to gamers (fear that devs would probably avoid the system or put less work into it).

That's a good thing you're doing, and I didn't know those products were homebrew based. Should have a homebrew console made for the fans.

Rebel Leader said:
but if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to use PSN

They had a choice. They could have waited to find another way to use linux, or if they couldn't just give up sony's service until a replacement for linux was found.
 
LovingSteam said:
Except that is a dumbass opinion that is potentially bannable on this forum. You are equating homebrew with piracy as if they are one and the same. Some opinions deserve to be laughed out of the building.

so I deserve to be laughed at for expressing my "dumbass" opinion here? what's this? Mozambique? you sir are a true clown.

well we have right here a rather active and dedicated thread explaining in detail the tools and methods required to "legally" play "backups" and "ROMs" (I wonder where and how do people here get the roms from their arcade boards like Street Fighter III to begin with) with PS3 CFW, I'm sure lots of GAF lurkers will use that thread as reference material to pirate games and whatnot, I don't know whether that's a bannable offense according to the GAF terms of service but it's teaching people how to pirate games, indeed it is. Of all places.
 
Lince said:
I'm starting to hate the term "homebrew",
fucking ridiculous excuses for piracy
when everything you're supposedly trying to do (emulators mainly) with your CFW PS3 you can already do with a 10 years old PC.
Ahem. Are you implying something about those of us on CFW? I hope not...
 
Metalmurphy said:
That's one thing. This update right here is another. GT5 has been hacked as well. Shit will only get worst. Also read my edit.

So your example is two games (one of which has already been hacked since day one - November 2009 - through save game exploits), and the potential hacks that could arise in the future? So compromised.. i'm chopping up my credit card and burning my PSN passwords as we speak.

Metalmurphy said:
Hey look, another one! Ain't you smart.

Are you going to refute it or just brush it off pretending it isn't true? Because that's pretty much what i'm seeing here.
 
Right.

If it turns out the update has some new feature worth discussing, feel free to start a new thread about it tomorrow.
 
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