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PS3 Firmware 3.60 Patches Security Holes

Good job Sony, glad to hear it. And to think back on all that hyperbole, the hackers exclaiming "PS3 IZ BROKEN, CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE DA SAME!" Such hollow words.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
It seems incomprehensible to me that Sony wouldn't know their random number generator always only returned 4.
It didn't always return 4. They've used a xkcd comic in the slides as a short hand and a joke for this.

It was also used when debian had a security issue. It's just a fun comic and a shared reference for people that go to hacker conferences because it's a well read comic amongst that group.
 
Acquiescence said:
Good job Sony, glad to hear it. And to think back on all that hyperbole, the hackers exclaiming "PS3 IZ BROKEN, CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE DA SAME!" Such hollow words.

Seeing as all currently released games still work on 3.41-3.55 and people are still accessing PSN even after this update I think it's a bit too early to claim Sony's victory.
 
If anything this just goes to show that nobody knows their system best than Sony.

But let's see and wait for what happens next.
 
Acquiescence said:
Good job Sony, glad to hear it. And to think back on all that hyperbole, the hackers exclaiming "PS3 IZ BROKEN, CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE DA SAME!" Such hollow words.

There's hyperbole on both sides. But what's new?
 
I personally don't care at all about homebrewing or what people actually do with their PS3's (that's a debate for other people :)), but I'm really curious about how exactly they have (supposedly) managed to reinvent the "security wheel" for the console. If it's true that they managed to fix pretty much everything, then I'm mighty impressed by the security team at SCE.
 
Lol at all the Sony cheerleaders in this thread.

Yay! Thanks Sony! Now I don't have to live with the burden of responsibility of having free access to some hardware that I legally own! Maybe you could also sell my my next car and lock it down "for my own safety" to the recommend Sony fuel?
 
kurtrussell said:
Lol at all the Sony cheerleaders in this thread.

Yay! Thanks Sony! Now I don't have to live with the burden of responsibility of having free access to some hardware that I legally own! Maybe you could also sell my my next car and lock it down "for my own safety" to the recommend Sony fuel?
People still have custom firmware, it's not like Sony magically invalidated hacks on 3.55 and below.
 
kurtrussell said:
Lol at all the Sony cheerleaders in this thread.

Yay! Thanks Sony! Now I don't have to live with the burden of responsibility of having free access to some hardware that I legally own! Maybe you could also sell my my next car and lock it down "for my own safety" to the recommend Sony fuel?

Starting with a car analogy. I see great things in your future.
 
Go Sony.

It's widespread piracy that matters. Few nerds can have their free games. They'd have rented them anyway.
 
kurtrussell said:
Lol at all the Sony cheerleaders in this thread.

Yay! Thanks Sony! Now I don't have to live with the burden of responsibility of having free access to some hardware that I legally own! Maybe you could also sell my my next car and lock it down "for my own safety" to the recommend Sony fuel?

This is why I like these announcements.

There's always a pirate crying.
 
Maybe we should just bump the last thread with all the same - now standard - replies.

This will go on for years methinks. Until Sony get bored and get distracted by the new shiny (PS4)...
 
PetriP-TNT said:
This is actually very, very impressive from a technical standpoint!
Indeed, it will be awesome if someone could explain how they did it.
 
metareferential said:
This is why I like these announcements.

There's always a pirate crying.


This is why I like these announcements.

There is always someone who equals homebrew with pirating and gets banned.
 
metareferential said:
This is why I like these announcements.

There's always a pirate crying.

Please do not insinuate that I am a pirate just because I object to the idea of Sony having complete control over something that I legally own.
 
Seems like a good fix to me. This is what Sony should have been doing from day one, rather than engaging in shitty anti-consumer lawsuits.
 
Momo said:
People still have custom firmware, it's not like Sony magically invalidated hacks on 3.55 and below.

That is correct. However, I'd like the ability to play *legal* games after I'm done using the cell processor to cross compile binaries for a Linux distro I contribute to. Why should Sony be allowed to restrict me from using the hardware I've purchased the way I want to?
 
kurtrussell said:
That is correct. However, I'd like the ability to play *legal* games after I'm done using the cell processor to cross compile binaries for a Linux distro I contribute to. Why should Sony be allowed to restrict me from using the hardware I've purchased the way I want to?
Like a pc game requiring a service pack installed on an OS? games require specific firmware versions. Too bad.
 
itxaka said:
This is why I like these announcements.

There is always someone who equals homebrew with pirating and gets banned.
Well, once games come out that absolutely require 3.60, let's see how many people still stick to CFW if they only have one console and actually care about the games. This will probably also put a damper on the development of anything beyond the usual emus and boot managers.
 
kurtrussell said:
That is correct. However, I'd like the ability to play *legal* games after I'm done using the cell processor to cross compile binaries for a Linux distro I contribute to. Why should Sony be allowed to restrict me from using the hardware I've purchased the way I want to?
Your hardware is still functional good sir. You chose to go the CFW route, so your efforts would be best spent trying to put together/make/persuade cfw devs to make a solution for playing newer games on 3.55.

The choice to me is clear right now, you go ofw and Sony are your OS vendors, or you go cfw with the homebrew scene being your vendor.

You whaling at Sony for not making allowances for your custom OS is extremely silly.
 
kurtrussell said:
Citation needed.
Look, either way it's at Sony's discretion if they want their games to run on a specific firmware version. You can't dictate that to them, and if you don't like it then take your business elsewhere or buy a second console that plays by their rules.
Also, if I wanted to use the Cell's power to plot missile trajectories, should I be allowed to do that?
 
Momo said:
You whaling at Sony for not making allowances for your custom OS is extremely silly.

Right, people who want their entitlement cake and gorge on it too just frustrate me to no end. Fuck you.
 
Momo said:
You whaling at Sony for not making allowances for your custom OS is extremely silly.

I think that the homebrew objection is more that Sony are actively fighting against them rather than simply not making allowances for them. What really hurts is that Sony seem able to do so reasonably effectively, in spite of all the "informed" predictions to the contrary.
 
Good for Sony. I might hurry up with getting that second ps3 then, as i'd like to keep my options there.
 
kurtrussell said:
Lol at all the Sony cheerleaders in this thread.

Yay! Thanks Sony! Now I don't have to live with the burden of responsibility of having free access to some hardware that I legally own! Maybe you could also sell my my next car and lock it down "for my own safety" to the recommend Sony fuel?

Can GAF plz quit with the car analagies
 
shagg_187 said:
MW2 is already patched, if I am correct (happened a few days ago).
Yep, i noticed this today. I tried a few rounds earlier and i didnt notice any cheaters so far :)


kurtrussell said:
Lol at all the Sony cheerleaders in this thread.

Yay! Thanks Sony! Now I don't have to live with the burden of responsibility of having free access to some hardware that I legally own! Maybe you could also sell my my next car and lock it down "for my own safety" to the recommend Sony fuel?
Even Geohot said that companies should have every right to secure their system. That debate has been more about if people should be allowed to break/bypass the security systems so that you can do whatever you want with the console/system, it hasnt been about that companies shouldnt be allowed to improve the security on their products.

No matter what people's view are on Sony, i dont see anything wrong with applauding Sony for actually being able to fix this (so far at least), especially when there were talk that Sony would never be able to fix it unless they did a hardware change :)
 
kurtrussell said:
That is correct. However, I'd like the ability to play *legal* games after I'm done using the cell processor to cross compile binaries for a Linux distro I contribute to. Why should Sony be allowed to restrict me from using the hardware I've purchased the way I want to?

What exactly are you compiling that couldn't be achieved faster on any modern PC CPU?
 
Fuck ya, the big, bad corporation won! Yay for Sony and yay for my online experience not being hindered anymore!

Now get back to work on cross game chat NOW!!!!

onken said:
What exactly are you compiling that couldn't be achieved faster on any modern PC CPU?
To him, it shouldnt matter, he should be able to do it because he wants too. Plus he wants to sit on his couch with his 50in. At least thats the only argument he could come up with at this point :\
 
I hope no one puts banana peels on the floor and readies the cartoon slip sounds when some realize it has been tightened :O
 
BritBloke916 said:
I think that the homebrew objection is more that Sony are actively fighting against them rather than simply not making allowances for them. What really hurts is that Sony seem able to do so reasonably effectively, in spite of all the "informed" predictions to the contrary.
Which they should be doing. Only the very naive would believe sony wouldn't put countermeasures in place to protect future games from potential piracy. Custom firmware still works today, homebrew is still there is it not? The onus is on homebrew devs to implement/maintain/upgrade future cfw, it always has been. If ofw outruns cfw like it current seems to be going you shouldn't be shaking your stick at Sony, but at the scene, your vendor.

I use custom firmware on my psp, and I dabble in homebrew coding ever so often, I chose to separate myself from the software path sony was offering for psp, and in doing so I knew either I get software/upgrades from the scene or delve in and do it myself. What sony are doing currently is the correct path for them to take, and it baffles me that people are in here pointing fingers at sony for securing their software solution, it seems so illogical to me.
 
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